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JHBowden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:56 PM
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I like the green, environmental Kerry.
Kerry is at the top of his game when he is speaking about the environment. Not only does Kerry's record show a lot of strength in this domain, the environment is an inoffensive issue everyone can agree with. The stuff now up on his website about healthy oceans, cleaner water, protecting our beaches, dolphin die-offs, etc. really motivates me as a voter.

Go Kerry!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:59 PM
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1. Kerry Earth Day events
http://www.johnkerry.com/features/earthday/

Now is your chance to tell W that he is wrong on the environment, wrong on climate change, and the wrong choice for America.
Go to an Earth Day event or rally in your area.

Take information on Kerry and Bush's record

Sign up new supporters for John Kerry

Send completed sign up sheets to the campaign

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:05 PM
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2. And for Kerry it is not an election year issue. He has a lifetime record
on the environment that is the best of any candidate in modern history.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:33 PM
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6. 96 from the LCV
yeah some bushlite :eyes:, I may do some volunteering on Earth Day but I have a Young dems meeting that day.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 08:36 PM
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3. I wish it were more of an issue with more people.
But that would require an educated public. Many are not educated or do not care about the environmet. The rest of us have to keep fighting. I happily support Kerry and hope he quickly reverses the destructive policies of the Bush corporate cabal.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:25 PM
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4. It probably helps with Greens.
Hopefully they're paying attention to Kerry's economic record.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:31 PM
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5. I should have posted this article in this thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x505802

We might actually have the chance to elect a real liberal president this time!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:39 AM
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9. Al Gore was strong on the environment, too.
But the Greens helped install the most anti-environmetal President ever.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:44 PM
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15. Kerry has a stronger environmental record
than Al Gore. Given that Gore was an outspoken environmentalist, that's aying something.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:17 PM
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7. I agree 100% - it made my transition from Clark to Kerry much easier...
when Clark bowed out.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 04:19 AM
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8. Me too!
I'm proud we have a candidate standing up for the environment, it's about time someone did. :thumbsup:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:35 AM
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10. I prefer Dennis to Kerry. Strong on environment
but also strong in other areas where I see Kerry as falling down.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:55 AM
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11. As a supporter of both men
there are areas that I disagreed with Dennis and found him to be FAR behind Kerry. His prolife stance for much of his career had many calling him a DINO. So did his stance siding with the rightwingers on flagburning.

I supported DK and still do because I always knew he was a liberal at heart even though he didn't show it consistently enough for many of my friends who believed him to be TOO conservative.

Kerry scores higher on the liberal scale than Dennis on the environment, women's rights and first amendment issues. But, I still consider Dennis liberal.

Dennis scores higher on the liberal scale on labor issues, healthcare and military spending. Kerry still comes down on the liberal side of those issues more often than not.

Other than that, the two are very much in agreement in almost all other issues and in their commitment to rooting out government and corporate corruption.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:59 AM
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14. Too bad John won't tap Dennis for veep
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:35 PM
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22. That will never happen
God forbid an actual liberal got on the ticket :eyes:

(and spare me the talking points about Kerry's pre-coup voting record)

Kucinich or Dean on the ticket would do a damn sight more for party unity than a neocon sympathizer like Bayh, Richardson, Breaux and most of the other names thrown up here by the DLC-ops.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:34 AM
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12. this is the one area
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 10:35 AM by G_j
I find I can speak to people and tell why I'm voting FOR Kerry instead of AGAINST Bush.
Maybe many don't see it but the environment could well be the issue that will effect our future more than any other.
If Bush's envionmental policies are allowed to continue our very future will indeed be in question.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:22 AM
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13. Then just focus there
I'm sure there's lots of other areas where you could be FOR Kerry, LOTS. But if the environment is all you can come up with for today, then put your fight there. The environment is definitely as important as any other issue we face.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:23 AM
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17. it's clear cut
believe me, the people I work with most often are peace activists and are not real enthusiastic about Kerry's murky foreign policy nor his signing of the PATRIOT act.

His environmental record is clear and accessible.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 02:10 PM
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24. Respect for the UN and world is murky?
Hmmm, interesting.

Is it possible that forcing the Palestinians to either negotiate or lose everything COULD work? Because that's what Kerry said, it COULD work.

Do you think we ought to have a definition of what a terrorist is? And if the definition is wrong, do you think we should fix it? Or do you think we should let the FBI make it up as they go? Because that's what would happen if we repealed the Patriot Act instead of fixing it.

Ideologues. Demagogues. They aren't good whether they're on the left or right.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:05 PM
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16. It's a good one. I can think of others. Not shredding the Constitution,
say. at least not taking an active role in turning us into a fascist country would be a big fat help. and letting the Patriot Act expire as it needs to. (he *did* promise that, right?)

oh yes, and: he's sane. and not stupid. and not a blathering fundie.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 09:26 AM
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18. Gore's mistake was to not make the enviro. a leading issue, i hope JK does
cause he really does shine and Democrats whip thugs in that area hands down, no questions asked.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 11:19 AM
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19. Kerry Push, Unlike Gore's, Will Attack on Environment
Kerry Push, Unlike Gore's, Will Attack on Environment
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/20/politics/campaign/20ENVI.html?fta=y

In a departure from the way the 2000 presidential campaign unfolded, aides and advisers to Senator John Kerry say they intend to make the environment a central issue in this year's election.

In the 2000 race, Vice President Al Gore, who had dedicated much of his political career to environmental issues, did not make them a priority.

Democrats say it was hard back then to portray George W. Bush as bad for the environment, because it was not a major issue in Texas, where he was governor. Moreover, they say, Mr. Gore did not want to highlight the issue because Mr. Bush was depicting him as an environmental extremist for his book, "Earth in the Balance," and for saying that he hoped new technologies could replace the internal combustion engine. It was, after all, Mr. Bush's father who referred to Mr. Gore as Ozone Man.

But this year, Kerry advisers say, Mr. Bush's record on the environment will be a powerful motivator in getting voters to the polls.

"The environment is much more likely to be an issue in this election because Bush has a record and you can see how bad it's been," said Carol M. Browner, who was the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency in the Clinton administration and is advising the Kerry campaign.

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GBD4 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 12:12 PM
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20. urgent problem, however
www.sayfiereview.com

all the FL papers are covering this oil drilling mishap today by Kerry

:(
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 12:30 PM
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21. Well, if Kerry DID say offshore drilling was acceptable that's not good.
But trying to paint Bush Jr the Texas oilman on the GOOD side of that issue is patently ridiculous. The only reason Junior won't allow drilling in Florida is because the resulting environmental damage would reflect bad on Jebbie. You can bet the Idiot Son of an Asshole wouldn't be so concerned about any state where his brother was NOT a governor.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 01:56 PM
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23. I guess it couldn't hurt
to suggest that you actually READ the article so that you can see that there is no "*IF*" about it. I don't expect my suggestion to help, but it certainly couldn't hurt.

Well, if Kerry DID say offshore drilling was acceptable that's not good

No "ifs" about it. Kerry DID NOT say that.
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GBD4 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 09:58 PM
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25. right
but the media is claiming that, so there needs to be a public response, which I believe the "Alligator" has now made
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 11:04 AM
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26. Yes, it's already been refuted
kick
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