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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:28 PM
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Flawed or not, it needs to be said.
Sure, I would love to say that Obama is flawless and his sh*t doesn't stink, but he is human like the rest of us. No truly honest person would have made it as far in politics as the remaining three have.

If we want our president to be a perfect human being then we will never be satisfied. I don't want to say that we are only left with the lesser of two evils, because there is still some good to fight for. There is still some hope, and I know deep down that Obama, HRC , and yes even McCain are probably all well intentioned people. They all want what they believe is best for this country.

I'm sorry if I do not have share the hatred of any of the three candidates with some of you. I have a feeling that my unwillingness to say that McCain is the scourge of the earth will likely piss a lot of you off. All that I can say is that McCain is a helluva lot better than the other republican candidates that were in the primary race.

Maybe I am just banging my head against the wall posting in GD:P but it is really sad watching us all attack each other like this. Yes I say "us" because I have been guilty of attacks against HRC myself, but come on people we have a much harder race in November that we need to turn our focus to.

I know that my calling for party unity now really only favors Obama, yes I am one of the supporters who has already drank the purple kool-aid. I just personally believe that he has more of the answers correct than either HRC or McCain.

Am I am Obama-tron? Maybe I am, but it isn't a decision that I made lightly. I have spent the past 10 years of my life being actively engaged in politics. From the point that I was old enough to vote I have been working on one campaign or another, or one cause or another. I have stood out in the sleet, snow, and rain registering voters or trying to get enough signatures to get measure on the ballot. Choosing Obama required a lot of thought and careful deliberation.

I cannot demand that you all support my candidate of choice, I wouldn't want to even if I could, but I would like to ask that we all at least refrain from trashing each other over our candidates. I understand that there are those of you out there who may not like Obama, and I know that there are some who like myself do not like HRC, but we all need to get over it. The republicans have their nominee, and we all need to stop tearing at each others throats. This is exactly what they want us to do. They want us to present a candidate in the fall who is so beaten and battered from inter-party squabbling that they no longer have a leg to stand on.

We need to present a strong candidate in the General Election, one that can win the presidency, because in the end, thats what this is really all about.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:33 PM
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1. You are the best type of Obama supporter
You can truly volvalize the basis of your support.

Strong, and calm.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:34 AM
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5. I'd Like To Second That
Because seeing the man through the prism of his less....acceptable (or more doctrinaire) minions makes it exceedingly difficult to identify myself as a potential cohort with them, or deal with his weaknesses as rationally and tolerantly as I might my own candidate's. The overall assessment gets dragged down by the gross weight and numbers of the @#$%& on board.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:34 PM
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2. Most of the people slinging the big chunks of shit will be gone after the convention.
There are a few who are genuine advocates who will stay, but it will pass.

I support a candidate, but I'll vote for the nominee even if my choice doesn't make it.

And if McCain wins, I'll pray for a veto-proof majority on the Hill.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:46 PM
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3. I don't hate any of our candidates.
I hate the politics of division.
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MaryCeleste Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 11:56 PM
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4. Some of this was brought on by Obamamaniacs
but indeed all men have feet of clay. I don't hold his humanity against him

That said, my guys is gone and my state primary over. I will support whomever the party chooses at this point. The cost of not doing so is too high.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:58 AM
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6. An enthusiastic K&R!
All Democrats and both candidates need to take Congressman DeFazio's advice and stop attacking each other!
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:57 AM
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7. morning kick
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:27 AM
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8. K/R.
:kick:
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 08:48 AM
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9. A truly rational person would know ...
that dishonesty is for losers who want to pretend that they are winners.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:44 AM
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10. Very glad to K&R- thank you for speaking
your thoughts so well.

We need more of this.


:hi:

peace~
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