Did anyone just hear on MSNBC

that "superdelegates have been frozen since Super Tuesday" according to "John" (sorry I didn't catch his last name). He was on with Alex Witt and another woman named Julie (I think). His story is that superdelegates don't want to make a move since Clinton's "wins" in Rhode Island, Texas, and Ohio.

At the same time, on the screen it was posted that the New York Times says Obama gained 54 & Clinton 31 since Super Tuesday??? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23638095/
:wtf:

I can't find any reference to "John's" comments on MSNBC's web site. Sorry I don't have more information on this, I wasn't near my computer and couldn't find a pencil. Just wondering if anyone else heard this? :(

This was on within the last 10-15 minutes.

because 54 superdelegates are quite an increase. Sorry, it sounded to me he was saying literally NO other superdelegates have endorsed anyone since Super Tuesday. :shrug:

Let me go have my second cup of coffee! Don't mind me... :blush: :donut:

I'm just riding this roller-coaster till it stops.

Have they forgotten who SWIFTBOATED Kerry night after night?
And who will do it AGAIN this fall?

Are you LEMMINGS? With memory spans of 2 days?

For series?!!@23

This was on the news and in the papers this week

endorsing. Obama continues to gain. There will be more next week.

that weren't said. :hi:

"sit tight" in the vain hopes that they will endorse her instead. You know, I truly believe that if the positions were reversed, Obama would have dropped out by now. Clinton of course doesnt understand the meaning of the word "dignity".

It was apparently in response to the report from Brokaw that there were 50 SDs about to endorse Obama.

in the first round

After that they can then change their vote

So in the first round of votes at the convention Obama will show a clear lead over Hilary. Its hard to think once that happens they will enforce go over to Hilary given all the attention and televised coverage of the convention.

Just as the media fell all over their selves with a Black and female candidate, should this thing to a vote at the convention they will be there covering it

And I do not expect there to be any need for a second ballot. Obama will have it wrapped up.

They had some legal expert talking about it but perhaps I'm wrong

again

The Democratic Party has faced accusations that it has been conducting its nominating process in an undemocratic way, because superdelegates are generally chosen without regard to their preferences in the presidential race and are not obligated to support the candidate chosen by the voters. Television commentator Dan Abrams has called it "troubling" that the superdelegates might decide the 2008 race, arguing, "Each of the superdelegates' votes is now equivalent to about 10,000 Democratic voters." There are online petitions calling on the superdelegates to support the candidate who does best in the primaries and caucuses. On the other hand, Geraldine Ferraro, who served on the Hunt Commission, has defended the inclusion of superdelegates as being beneficial to the party; she argues that they should exercise independent judgment in voting for a presidential nominee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

that the SDs "freeze" instead of pledging themselves to someone and thereby undermining their last hopes to win the nomination. Some have been more circumspect and listened to her; others have not.

And they never really considered a "plan B" in case something like this happened. I think even in the past with the raucous conventions, the candidates weren't this close. Just looking on the map, you literally see the clash of "the old" ("big state strategy") versus "the new" ("50-state strategy"), and I really don't think they have a handle on how to interpret it. The Democratic Party is at a (scary, to them) fork in the road right now. The 50-state strategy netted the party enough in both houses of Congress to retake the majority, which was not even predicted (it was anticipated that the Dems might pick up enough seats to take the House but certainly not the Senate).

And note that this is also a year when the primary state election order was changed and I would expect there would always been some upheaval when there is a transition and change in a known process.

Despite this thing about a "freeze", there are still SDs slowly coming out and endorsing.