Question: Why is everyone attacking democratic nominees and not McCain?

I don't understand. We're supposed to be DEMOCRATS, yet all the majority of you can do is attack Hillary or Obama.
Why not go after the REAL enemy and start the deconstruction of McCain?

To not support our nominee means another 4 years of Shrub politics.

Naw!! Can't be. :rofl: :rofl:

You honestly think some freepers come here to plant this bullshit. I'm not being sarcastic, just trying to understand.
And I hope you don't think I'm one. I'm probably more liberal than 95% of those people on these forums.

more...and a good portion of them are going after Obama because just like in Texas and a couple of other states they want clinton because they think they can win the election if hillary is the nomonee..just see how many of them came out to vote for clinton and we all know that the freeps are really hillary haters...

It's kind of funny how much they hate Hillary though, ain't it?

It would be the greatest to see their faces if she is elected. Maybe they'd all leave the country.

where a lot of the bs has been coming from.

Right now, the fight is still between the two of them. That's just, ya know, kinda how it works and stuff.

The fact that two democratic candidates are competing for the nomination does not automatically mean that both sides need to go for the other's throats with everything in their toolkits, and just shrugging your shoulders and saying "that's politics" is a copout. Both sides should be perfectly capable of arguing their case for the nomination without trying to tear apart the competition when they know damn well that whoever makes it through with the nomination still needs to beat the Republicans and would have an easier time doing it if people in their own party don't kneecap them going into the main event.

Either way, the discussion would revolve around the two candidates, not McCain, so my comments in relation to the OP stand.

shaped up this way.

Remember Gephardt and Dean?

Infighting RULES!

Many see the present Dem candidates as the worst possible candidates going into November, an over zealous DINO in Hillary, and an inexperienced newcomer in Obama. Neither one has what it takes to win in November.

limbaugh supporters busy keeping the ant's nest stirred in hopes of damaging both Dem candidates and a few of the more passionate supporters from both Dem camps doing the same in hopes of swinging votes to their preferred nominee. Not sure which of the three camps are benefiting the most here. Perhaps the mCcain camp will ultimately gain a few votes and the Democratic nominee will lose a few. Enough to sway an election? Well I don't think so...not even factoring in the MSM claiming virtual ties when clearly this is not the case and factoring in vote tampering come November. I believe that the Democratic nominee will landslide through mCcain come November regardless of current activities to halt this.

In a word, trolls.

You may have seen this one. It's been in the news a little. And it's #4 on this weeks "Top 10 Conservative Idiots." Frankly, it should be a dealbreaker for any McCain supporter with even a small amount of common sense.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4440418&page=1

Critics have pounced on presumptive Republican presidential nominee John McCain, saying his campaign's ties to a European company have cost Americans jobs.

The inquiries and implications began when the Pentagon announced last month that it would award a $35 billion contract for new Air Force tankers to European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. and Northrop Grumman Corp., instead of to Seattle-based Boeing Co.

(snip)

Boeing claimed it would provide 44,000 American jobs if awarded the new contract. Northrop and EADS initially said they would provide about 25,000 American jobs, but as Boeing readied its appeal, the companies upped that prediction, saying they would support 48,000 jobs in the United States.


So basically, McCain whored out to his lobbyist friends, killed nearly 50,000 jobs, a potential boost to the U.S. manufacturing sector and on top of all that, outsourced our own defense industry.

Appalling. Just appalling.

What's even more appalling is how obsessed DU is over some Chicago pastor who's beliefs are very close to what many on DU have been saying for years. Ridiculous!

At least some of us are looking in the right places.

A poll taken a couple of weeks ago, in the state, showed him 8% up over HRC and in a dead heat with Obama. It will be interesting to see if that changes.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/washington/washington_presidential_election

Zogby Poll: McCain Bests Both Obama, Clinton in 3-Way General Election Tests

Independent candidate Ralph Nader wins 5%, taking more support from Democrats


UTICA, New York – Riding high after locking up his party’s presidential nomination, Republican John McCain of Arizona has moved ahead of both of his potential Democratic Party rivals in a national general election test, the latest Zogby telephone survey shows.


Perhaps profiting from the continuing political battle across the aisle, McCain would defeat Hillary Clinton of New York by six points and Barack Obama of Illinois by 5 points, the survey shows. Clinton and Obama are locked in a tight battle to win the Democratic Party nomination, a fight that has grown nasty at times recently and threatens to continue on all summer long until the party’s national convention in Denver this August.

The telephone survey of 1,001 likely voters nationwide was conducted by live operators calling from Zogby’s call center in Upstate New York on March 13-14, 2008. It carries a margin of error of +/- 3.2 percentage points.

Prospective General Election Match-up
3-13/14

McCain
45%

Clinton
39%

Nader
6%

Not sure/Someone else
11%


The introduction of long-time activist Ralph Nader into the mix is having an effect on the race, as he wins enough support to make a difference, the poll shows. Nader entered the race recently, charging that there is little difference between the Republican and Democratic parties and their presidential candidates. Using the same argument eight years ago, his presence on the ballot in Florida may well have tipped the presidential election away from Democrat Al Gore and in favor of George W. Bush. His run four years ago yielded less dramatic results, but the political atmosphere has changed since 2004, and may be more favorable for him again, the Zogby survey shows.

In the McCain-Clinton-Nader match-up, McCain leads mainly because of a significant advantage among independents. Among those voters, he wins support from 45%, compared to 28% for Clinton and 15% for Nader. McCain wins 79% support from Republicans, while Clinton wins 75% support from Democrats.

Clinton leads only among those voters under age 30, while McCain leads among all voters over age 30. Nader also does well among the young, winning 12% support among those under age 30. Among men, McCain leads 51% to 33% for Clinton. Among women, Clinton leads, 45% to 40% for McCain. Nader wins 8% among men and 3% among women.

Nader also does particularly well as a third-party candidate among progressives, winning 15% support from the group that would very likely otherwise go to Clinton were he not in the race. At the other end of the ideological scale, he wins 12% among libertarians. He also wins 6% support among both conservatives and liberals.

Prospective General Election Match-up
3-13/14

McCain
44%

Obama
39%

Nader
5%

Not sure/Someone else
11%


In the McCain-Obama-Nader match-up, the independent candidate is having the same effect. Nader wins 15% support among political independents nationwide

Last election, he got less than a percent.

And more people can't stand him now, and see him for the self-absorbed prick that he is.

That is why the business journals are publicizing him for Repubs will send him $$$ so he can get on the ballot the worthless piece of crap, I wonder what crime he committed that the Bushies are holding over his head as blackmail to make him run again. Sex? Drugs? Money? Drives a Hummer?

If we had one, I would leave here and start posting over there and I bet a lot of people would. Most people do not care whether it is Hillary or Obama. I sure don't. I will vote for a yellow dog this time if they nominate one. Fido for President. I'm not proud. Just so we beat McCain.

How do we make suggestions?

both are trying to make the case that they are the stronger GE candidate. so why not start running adds about why they are better than McCain, kill two birds with one stone, show why you are a better candidate in the GE and start attacking McCain instead of allowing him to sit there and rally his base and raise money. Then McCain would have to start running adds against both Clinton and Obama. seems like a win win to me.