Is 'sloppy seconds' a sexist and demeaning remark?

I see that a Hillary supporter has used this to describe something distasteful to her/herself.

How does that sit with you, seeing as Obama supporters have been called sexists against Hillary simply because we don't vote for her because she's a woman?
and women who support Obama are called traitors and not real feminists.
so is 'ss' okay to use, as long as you are a Clinton supporter?

btw, I'm not even sure what this term actually means, except it is Very demeaning and mysognist.

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on edit: to make it clearer for some jackasses here, the term to me was gang rape related, but I have heard other definitions of it - thus the 'i'm not sure what it means'

Okee dokey.

Must.... resist.... asking.... obvious.... question.

version,
in a gang rape, that term is used as for what the second man 'gets' from the assault to the victim.
and it is said in jest and jokery.

I'm sure there are other meanings, and that is what I meant.
what other meanings are there that this sort of word usage could just pop up in a totally non-related dialogue

when a woman has sex with one man, and then has sex with a different man very shortly after. The second man is getting "sloppy seconds" because she still has semen in her vagina.

Thanks for the illustration...

If you really wanted to, you could probably find a video example on the internet.

Thank you.

to use this phrase in a topic totally unrelated to group sex, etc.

what do you think?

I find the term really offensive and demeaning more toward women than to men.

I find the term really offensive and demeaning more toward women than to men.

When I have heard it used, it was used to insult the second man. The first man had clean sex and the woman got to fuck two guys. To further insult the second man, oral sex on the woman can be (and often is) mentioned.

But really, the offensiveness depends on context and audience. Some people believe that it is wrong for a woman to have sex with two guys, but great if a guy has sex with two girls. For me, that is sexism.

nt.

A-hem. It has a meaning in the world of group sex. You see, those not first in line have to contend with the product left behind by the first. Hence, sloppy seconds, thirds, etc....

Doesn't have to be sexist, the term could be used in all male group sex as well.

:eyes: :eyes: you did ask...

and :rofl: The OP DID ask. :hi:

Just curious, because I'm writing my Christmas newsletter to the family a little early this year.

9th.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

make sure you include how much Uncle joe is enjoying golf now that he's finally retired.

I was kind of hoping for something like "Flappy Fourths". Whoever started this nomenclature didn't think it through very well.

nasty ninths. Beyond that, you need serious help.

How about some "Elijah Wood Elevenths"?

nt

because technically he could be just as, erm... moist?, as a woman can.

I like to stick my Manwich between his buns.

(OK, that was just silly)

:rofl: Down in Lunch Lady Land.

MEATLOAF SANDWICH!

:yourock:

I'm an Obama supporter, btw.

I don't think the term itself is sexist, but it could probably be used in a sexist or demeaning way.

The first rapist leaves the 'slop' for the next.

but now that you mention it, I imagine that it does get used that way by some.

and I don't find anything about rape to be funny or used inappropriately to describe somthing very Not Rape Like - to demean a whole horrible experience to a convenient oneliner in a poor attempt at 'humour'.

it usually does not involve adults having a threesome or + but in a sleazy way to put a woman down.

I don't think that there is one true way to use the term.

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No group sex does not in and of itself equal gang rape. The term in question certainly does bring that sort of sexual relation to mind.

Sloppy seconds reduces the person who is 'sloppy' into an object that is being used by one or more men for their pleasure, said object being less desirable after its first use. The scenario implied by this is one in which an alpha male and his cohorts are fucking a man or a woman in a sequence determined by their hierarchical relationship to each other. The alpha male is entitled to 'firsts', the others to increasingly sloppy Nths. The scenario is odious. It's archetype is gang rape. Thanks for asking.

:puke:

I swear, you can't make this shit up.

but there is another definition, I see here.

I've always thot it referred to the rape definition but wasn't sure and was asking, maybe could have been more clear about it, yes. now I know there are possibly 2 definitions and that you are still the abrasive asshole you always were. ;)

that's all there is to it.

Think into one hand, and shit in the other. Let me know which one fills up first. That's all there is to it. And, what the fuck, I'll do a cute little smilie too.

:hi:

People are so ready to jump on anything that may slightly be perceived as an insult... this is proof that people are out of their freaking minds around here.

I'm not near as disgusted with the term sloppy seconds as I am with the jumping to... not even conclusions! Oh brother! This would be funny if it weren't so sorry.

It can refer to men as well as women.

I think the Hells Angels of the mid sixties were the visionaries that popularized the term, as a result of some of the consequences of their development of new breakthrough ways to have good clean fun. Unless, of course, you were a woman that associated with them at the time. I think they shared their women, and a Hells Angel's lady was expected to "pull a train" every now and then.


-90% Jimmy

Some of the worst sexists and sexism-enablers on DU previously have become staunch defenders of Queen Hillary. But when the topic is other women, the newfound sisterhood goes right out the window. There were a bunch of them weighing in with nasty comments about Spitzer's escort. Don't even bring up the women who alleged that Bill Clinton harassed them. They are lower than dirt, as far as the FFFHs are concerned. Thus, it should be no surprise that one would casually throw out a disgustingly misogynistic term like that.

most of them seem to think sexism only exists against their Queen, and for them to defend to the ridiculous points they have.

but mention that feminism really is about ALL woman, whether you like or approve of them or not - whether you hate Ann Coulter or Monica's opinions, decisions, etc., they are still women and if you diss them based on gender or mysoginist rulings of the past, then you are Not a feminist but a two faced opportunist for Hillary.

Oh, fuck, was I abrasive again? That makes it abrasive - 2, ignorant - 2. I guess that makes it a push.

And if you ignore racism, or accept it as an appropriate political tactic, you are no feminist either. My feminist consciousness is imbued with the idea that all forms of oppression are wrong.

Simply amazed

It's not nice imagery.

Or maybe Nancy Kerrigan.

But, I'm not one for slinging the s-bomb around much.

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That's just the way it is.

"sloppy" than heterosexual sex?

In the practice of heterosexual sex (when done correctly), is one gender left fresh and clean while the other is left "sloppy" afterward?

Assuming (as the OP apparently does and I do not) that the term relates to "gang rape," is one gender immune from gang rape while the other is not?

if done right...is sloppy. :silly:

It was explained further upthread what it is so I won't go into it again. No need.
The term--while being sexual in origin--also is used to denote taking something after someone has already used it.
You might try googling the term just to get an idea of it's usage...although I suspect that you won't because there isn't any outrage in it.

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Posing a question to the White House press secretary, Scott McClellan, Mr. Roberts said, "Scott, you said that - or the president said, repeatedly, that Harriet Miers was the best person for the job. So does that mean Alito is sloppy seconds, or what?"

"Sloppy seconds" is a slang term that pejoratively refers to sexual activity with a person who has just been sexually active with a third party. It is often employed metaphorically as well, as in Mr. Roberts's case.
http://www.nysun.com/article/22355
In this case I am just using the link for example and not context

other any racially derogatory word they want. It is not considered demeaning if it comes from within the oppressed group. However, if a man calls a woman a bitch or a slut, she will slap him up side the head. That is why the SNL thing with "bitch" in it this weekend was not funny. It was not a woman saying it. When a man says it, the word sounds violent and woman hating.

Context counts.

Does that answer your question?

Don't the liquids a-squishing and a-gushing seem to indicate that the second go-round is more fun?

Anyways, it's a post encounter term.

Post male-male.
Post male-female.
Post female-female.

Second encounter (with the same person, or another) is sloppier.

Misogyny has nothing to do with it, at least, it hasn't since 30 years ago when humanity miraculously discovered that we could actually have sex more than once a day.