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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:16 PM
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"Sen. Obama has said that words matter. I strongly agree..."-Hillary said that TODAY...
"Some people may think words are change. You and I know better-words are cheap."-Hillary said THAT 1 month ago.

Which is it, Hillary? Does she just not CARE anymore?
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:19 PM
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1. She must have caught Romney's flip-flop disease
Hope she gets better soon.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:21 PM
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6. Don't you know if you use that phrase "flip-flop" you'll be accused of being a Freeper?
Hillary supporters can't face the fact that she IS a flip-flopper.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:19 PM
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2. "words are cheap"
Especially those that come out of her mouth.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:25 PM
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10. True dat.
:D
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:20 PM
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3. She's not as bright as everyone makes her out to be, frankly.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:23 PM
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7. no she isn't, that's been a real eye opener for me.
she's not that swift at all.
sure, she's not so bad at the rote stuff, the memorized NCLB kind of thing,
but generally

I think her so called superior intelligence is an urban legend.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:27 PM
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12. Or perhaps a "myth", as Bill might say
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:38 PM
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14. I started a thread about THAT today, too!
:hi:
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:23 PM
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9. That's the conclusion I have come to as well
Obama runs rings around her in pretty much every way, except for acting and triangulating, which she is the champion of.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:27 PM
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11. That MUST be it.
OR she has TERRIBLE judgement, thinking her words will score her more support.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:55 PM
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33. sigh...I reluctantly agree with you here, her whole campaign has been a disaster
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:01 PM
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37. The only one I've ever heard
say that she's brilliant is bil clinton.
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Drachasor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:20 PM
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4. It depends which is more advantageous for her politically at the time
*sigh*
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:20 PM
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5. She means just her words. Obama's don't count. n/t
:puke:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:23 PM
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8. Why don't her voters care
That's the real question.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:38 PM
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13. Another nasty, pointless, pile-on thread from the Obama side.
I wish someone woul;d start keeping track, so we can prove that it is the Obamaniacs that post 85% of the insulting threads and comments.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:40 PM
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16. Is it a fact that she said both things or not??? Is the truth "nasty" to you?
Face the facts!
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:41 PM
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17. So she can do a complete flip flop unchallenged? that is your standard for our nominee?????
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:47 PM
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24. And you bring nothing to the conversation except feet stamping.
It was an obvious, um, how about this, change in "words" philosophy. Defend that.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:40 PM
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15. Words... States...Rules...... whatever... the ones she likes count and the other ones don't



Just fucking sad




and not Presidential
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:42 PM
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19. Exact;y! Hey-remember how her surrogates started calling SDs "AUTOMATIC delegates"?
They're just like the Bush admin. You know-the "Clean Air Initiative," for example. :eyes:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:47 PM
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22. LOL.. to true
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:42 PM
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18. a fine distinction , but a distinction nonetheless
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 06:42 PM by Beaverhausen
She agrees with Obama that words matter, but not that words themselves bring about change.

Words won't bring the change he talks about, only action will.

edited to fix wacky spacing.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:44 PM
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20. I disagree. She specifically said words are CHEAP earlier. n/t
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:46 PM
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21. yeah, words are cheap when discussing bringing about actions
but they do matter.

Do you think all this unity-speak is unifying us?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:02 PM
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28. Too bad SHE said words are CHEAP. SHE uses words, too. And she has changed her
words on MANY topics. She has no room to talk. Obama IS unifying people. Not on the DU, but that's to be expected.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:52 PM
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27. true - and obvious to anyone not in the Obama cult
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:47 PM
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23. Hillary proves words are cheap, Obama proves words matter. nt
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:49 PM
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25. Unless they're rev. Wright's words. Then they don't matter so much.
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:51 PM
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26. FLIPPITY FLOP FLOP....LAWD HAVE MERCY get it together Hilda
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:51 PM
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29. "Pastorgate, Naftagate, Plagiarist!!!, Pillow, Shame on You, etc.."
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 07:56 PM by BringBigDogBack
:rofl:
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:52 PM
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30. look at the youtubes
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:54 PM
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31. On the internets?
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 07:55 PM
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32. Yes! On teh internets
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 07:55 PM by BringBigDogBack
;)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:00 PM
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35. Thanks! I'll have to go to the google and look for it!
:)
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:13 PM
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39. yes, go to the google
all your questions are belongs to it.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:00 PM
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34. Typical Hillary doublespeak.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:01 PM
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36. Yup. It's time to turn the page!
:)
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:08 PM
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38. I think she's actually at the triplespeak point. (nt)
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:14 PM
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40. even cheap words can have expensive consequences.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:44 PM
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41. If words were expensive,
would you be too cheap to CARE that words matter?

BTW my cheap words didn't change anything you wrote. But they still matter to DU.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:17 PM
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42. she's immune to being called a flip-flopper, she's been "vetted"
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:20 PM
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43. It depends whose words you're talkn bout.
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