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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:08 AM Original message |
So, folks needed Barack Obama to explain issues of race to them? Is what he said new? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. He didn't only address race. He addressed divisiveness and how it's killing us. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. That was good for him. It needs the elevation. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. Welcome back! |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. The biggies in the race problem were |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. If your assertion that the "very basic understandings" expressed in his speech have |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I don't think he would have made it if his poll numbers weren't declining |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:43 AM Original message |
This speech took courage. He could have given another one that would have |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
7. meh |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
8. I agree - the MSNBC and DU rave reviews were expected - but we'll have to wait for polls to find |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
9. what politician has ever spoken the truth on race to the nation in a comparable way? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Jesse Jackson, Bill Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, Bobby Kennedy... |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. HA, Bill Clinton never gave any speech that compared to this one, much less one on race |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Jesse's 2 convention speeches were both better |
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F.Gordon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Psst...... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
10. Yet here we are in the 21st Century and we still have parts of the country...... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. You are wrong, bigtree. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. fair enough, that he answered your questions about him |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Because I know someone who went through a similar |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
14. It was anything but a politically opportunistic speech |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. well, I don't think it occurred in a vacuum |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. There was no other reason to give it in this space/time. Ironic--he created the |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Wish I could rec this response. Dead on. n/t |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
16. if that was a speech you will rail against, onto ignore list for you.. with the other bigots |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
18. "a reasonable defense of his pastor"...Really? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. right, same as you expressed. a reasonable defense, along with his critique. |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
19. who was the only person that would benefit by dems fighting |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. tough shit for you and your ilk |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. wahhhhhh wahhhh wahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. It was pure Irony--the person who brought about pure divisisive now attempting |
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here_is_to_hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. You sicken me, off with you....n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
21. Just this morning I had to explain resegregation to someone. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. well, it may help some understand motivations behind some of the expressions from his pastor |
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F.Gordon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. Well, it beats answering questions at a Press Conference |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. Depends on where one gets their information. |
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F.Gordon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. See post #26 |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I wasn't referring to Clinton supporters. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. It's the way that it's been done in the context of this campaign which made it seem a wash |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I don't see it hurting. |
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better tomorrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-18-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
37. yes, it is....."this time"..... |
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