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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:12 PM
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Gallup Daily: Clinton 49 Obama 42 - Clinton also better against McCain
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 12:46 PM by nickn777
http://www.gallup.com
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:13 PM
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1. We'll see, we have weeks for this Wright stuff to play out. Americans have a short memorty
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:24 PM
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10. not about GOD DAMM AMERICA
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:25 PM
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11. Farwell? Robertson? Palsey?....yeah....we do
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:31 PM
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21. that was before You-tube and blogs I believe (mostly)
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:59 PM
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43. how can we sa Dems who have reeled against the likes of Fawell&Robertson now give Wright a free pass
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:37 PM
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25. exactly... remember the "plagiarism" kerfuffle?
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 12:37 PM by npincus
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:39 PM
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50. That did nothing to his numbers. Pastorgate is far different
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gayron Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:43 PM
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34. This will not go away
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:14 PM
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2. wow... that is HUGE... will be very interested to see Fridays polls...
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:16 PM
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3. Lies and more lies

Sample size for the democratic race poll is 1209, not 4000 (off by 75%).
Clinton doesn't do better againc McCain, one point is statistically worthless.

This is a good poll for Hillary. What is the need to spin and lie?
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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:27 PM
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15. Corrected: the 4 day running sample is 4000 for the GE, the Dem is 1000 n/t
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 12:56 PM by nickn777
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:31 PM
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19. Those are REGISTERED voters

The DEMOCRATIC voters total, over 4 days, is 1209. Check in the gallup website, below the democratic poll, where it says "number of interviews". I take it that you've made a honest mistake though, so no hard feelings :hi:
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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:37 PM
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24. right, 4000 for the general election matchup
1200 for the democrat poll.....sorry for jumping down your throat on that one!...you are correct on the obama / clinton sample size...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:46 PM
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37. You're Right
But if you went from a 1,000 to 4,000 sample your only reducing your moe from 3% to 1%...
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:19 PM
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4. Ugh
How :banghead: can :banghead: any :banghead: repub :banghead: poll :banghead: ahead :banghead: of :banghead: any :banghead:

Democrat :banghead: after :banghead: 7-years :banghead: of :banghead: *bush :banghead: !

My head hurts.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:41 PM
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29. Right? I hear you. It baffles me too. I thought for sure this would be a
landslide for the dems. :(
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:58 PM
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42. I thought landslide also.
And not even close in the polls.

Shows me how out of touch I really am.

x(
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:21 PM
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5. Great!!!!!!!!!
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:22 PM
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6. Obama is done=stick a fork in him-n/t
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Alhena Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:26 PM
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12. Right- and Rasmussen shows him leading by 5
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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:42 PM
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31. So which one is right?
:-)
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:55 PM
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40. Rasmussen hasnt got a poll right since 2000
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:29 PM
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17. Why do you write such nasties about BO.. The poster only said Great!!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:41 PM
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51. He's Still The Prohibitive Favorite To Win The Nomination
NT
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:23 PM
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7. ........for the moment
But remember, its taken TEN DAYS of solid MSM bashing of Obama to elevate Clinton by that small amount.

I wouldnt count on that continuing for very long.

Then what do you think will happen to her small lead?
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:23 PM
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8. Obama should just quit while he is ahead.
:sarcasm:
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:24 PM
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9. BHO can't win a national election..Support HRC's Scorch Earth Policy
It's the only way we can win
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:26 PM
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13. See THIS is exactly why I freaked
With the Friday "Senator Obama in crisis and near collapse?" and Monday "Senator Obama is done" posts.

I was RIGHT. And I hate that I was right.
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thesubstanceofdreams Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:28 PM
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16. Right about what?

It's just one poll, taken in Obama's worst moment of the campaign. Other polls show him still leading. And he'll no doubt rebound very soon.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:32 PM
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22. You were RIGHT?
Because ONE poll shows him down?

My God, get a fucking grip, man. You're looking like a total wuss right now. Man up, this isn't a fucking one-week election.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:42 PM
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52. Shut up and take some pills
You are ridiculous.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:27 PM
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14. I support HRC because of her strong polices and ability to enact them.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:30 PM
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18. Amen rodeodance,
You speak the truth, and, from your lips to Gods ears.
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:31 PM
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20. she's enacted what?
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:41 PM
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30. Thats what I was thinking?
It would be nice to know the specifics, just to know.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:31 PM
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47. you were not thinking right --see my post to that poster you responded to.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:30 PM
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46. do you have a reading comprehension problem?--I said her "ability to" --not
that she has enacted any of her campaign proposals at this time.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:52 PM
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38. ...
:thumbsup:

She will make it happen.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:53 PM
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39. Thank you.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:35 PM
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23. No, the initial callup is 4000. Of those
only about a 1000 remain after screening. That is standard.
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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:40 PM
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27. i corrected my sample size error.....
but the sample for the GE matchup is 4,376, according to the web site.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:43 PM
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33. Likely voter screen?
If they're not using one (and they shouldn't be at this point, but some polling firms do) then that's the right number for the GE result. If they are using a screen and don't tell us the number of LV's, that's a problem for us.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:38 PM
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26. Folks see this for what it is.
Hilary had a big bump earlier on, and a big Obama sample rolled off the average.

The same, but opposite phenomenon, just occurred in the Rasmussen poll. The number here
will close after today, when the Hilary sample rolls off. And if O does well, the trend will reverse. It's up and down, up and down with these things. Why everyone panics or ejaculates at fluctuations in polling is beyond me.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:44 PM
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35. Teaser, don't try to logic it out.
I've realized many on here do not understand daily tracking polls. One day's results does not mean anything, unless it proves to be a trend and that isn't known until a few days out. Right now, Clinton saw a bump and Obama took a hit because of this Wright thing. However, I see no evidence of this being a trend for Hillary.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:45 PM
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36. I Agree With Everything You Said But I Would Put More Stock In Gallup
They are the gold standard of pollsters*



*That doesn't mean they are infallible...
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Rex_Goodheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:40 PM
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28. God damn America for choosing a white woman over a black man.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:32 PM
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48. Posts like yours are sick.
God damn America for choosing a white woman over a black man.
Posted by Rex_Goodheart
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:42 PM
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32. This poll is still pre-speech.
I suspect his speech yesterday will have a significant effect.

The fangs have been pulled out of the Wright controversy, sorry to say. Wait, I'm not sorry to say.
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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:55 PM
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41. Hmm....poll includes data from last night, which is post speech....
I know you hate to hear this, but the speech has been widely criticized as much at has been widely praised. There are plenty of questions raised by it, and even some Obama supporters would agree.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:13 PM
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45. That's still considered pre-speech , sorry
The effect of the speech will take few days until it reaches the vast majority of people. Most people would have not seen the speech by the time Gallup was on the phone asking those questions. And that’s given; Clinton now is where Obama was, about a week ago, so THE SWIFTBOATING FAILED.
And if Obama managed to get my very conservative 80 years old Grandparents to say it was the best speech they have heard in decades. Then I trust it had a lot more effect than people are giving it credit for.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:34 PM
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49. critisized by hillary newbies.....and freepers
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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:06 PM
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44. kick
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:55 AM
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53. These polling results were taken when the whole Rev. Wright issue surfaced - Lets wait and see what
the polls since yesterday's speech on Iraq and the one the day before on race issues are taken.

I for one will put money on the fact that this will be the other way around by the primar in PA.
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