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ECH1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 10:55 PM Original message |
The DLC declares that Deanism is finally dead |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. This cancer needs to be cut out from the party NOW |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. The DLC is the party -- if anything's a cancer, it's Deanism |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. The DLC is the party? |
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Foswia (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Look who makes up the DLC. Yes your elected officals. They are the party |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Actually, most my elected officials are R, much to my chagrin |
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Foswia (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Non-DLC liberals lost elections (look at why the DLC formed) [nt] |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I'm sorry but that is a non-sequiter |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Fact: The last three nominees have been DLC members |
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indigo32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Well |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Fine, just don't reserve the right to say who isn't a Democrat |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Fuck the DLC |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Ibid. |
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leftistagitator (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Remember, voters rejected you Lieberman |
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leftistagitator (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. And on a further note |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. then why didnt they have Kerry destroyed like they did Dean? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Kerry TOUGHED THEM OUT. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Kerry's people knew how to deploy and work the caucus system |
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leftistagitator (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
69. Agreed, Kerry is a good choice |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
43. You mean like he stole Kucinich's and Clark's? eom |
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leftistagitator (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. I didn't know he stole Kucinich's message |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
79. What I meant was, my information (which I can't link because I |
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Foswia (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. Remember, voters rejected you Dean! |
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leftistagitator (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Dean actually won a state in the primary |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. Joementum chimes in |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Victory WILL be in the center-- Dems should move LEFTWARD toward it !!!!! |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
80. That's a Good Way to Put it, NNNS |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Joementum is an indomitable force |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-04 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
6. DLC spinelessness is partly why Repugs will steal Florida again. |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. The Deanism is Dead |
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SangamonTaylor (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
11. I actually like the Third Way |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:37 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. "The Third Way" reminds me of the film "The Quiet American" |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. third way is right wing. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Fuck Liberman |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
32. If you are going to trash a good Democrat, at least spell his name right |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. You mean that same "good Democrat" who's an apologist... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Not surprising. |
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Foswia (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. Read about third way. Beyond right and left: Furture of Radical Poltics |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
68. Sounds like an appropriate description to me. |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
15. Deanism is alive and well ... and People for Democracy and |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 03:49 AM Response to Original message |
16. Holy Joementum, Batman! The DLC will hasten the death of America! |
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Nicholas_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
17. Good |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. yeah, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:53 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Deleted message |
AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
70. Leaving the wounded party to fly with only .... |
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Nicholas_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Yeah... |
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Nazgul35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
94. What Nick fails to mention |
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mrgorth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
21. These people are assholes |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
22. These guys make voting for Nader so tempting |
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leftistagitator (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
71. It's amazing |
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RogueTrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
23. Well, the DLC are very good at rewriting history for their own benefit |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
24. Actually, voters preferred Dean's policies but were brainwashed into |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
46. Is that so? Perhaps you have some links to back up your claims? |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
89. Kerry is much more liberal than Dean. |
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liberalron (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Which candidate praised the Confederate flag?? |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
25. No stake has been driven through my heart yet |
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PROGRESSIVE1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
26. Message to DLC: "Drop Dead"! |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
27. I thought Kerry surged when he adopted a more populist message... |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. He surged when he poured millions of $$$ into Iowa |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:10 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. What millions of $$$$? |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Cite |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. But, once again, if it was all about money... |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. That's easy |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
28. Voters rejected the two most centrist candidates, Lieberman and Dean. |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Nice attempt to re-write history, but this just doesn't fly |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Dean's record was that of a centrist. |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Except that rhetoric was what Dean offered during the campaign |
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liberalron (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
34. Dump the DLC |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
42. the DLC is obviously not interested in party unity |
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Foswia (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Dean trashed us! |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Oh please |
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Foswia (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Reductionist Tripe! |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Learn what the DLC is. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
101. They didn't win anything. The fight has only begun |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
72. DLC IS Trash! |
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mdguss (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Well Howard was a big DLC Guy: |
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chocolateeater (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I'm suspicious of people who put an "ism" at the end of someone's name, |
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mdguss (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Fine Maybe Howard's Been OK Since he Dropped Out: |
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chocolateeater (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. I don't remember Dean saying that, but |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #85 |
103. They have the exact same foriegn policy on the war and |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
102. The DLC doesn't trash the winner. Bullshit |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
44. what exactly is "Deanism"?? |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. i think the DLC is trying to say deanism is communism |
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Colin Ex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
66. I don't follow. |
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Colin Ex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Maybe it's... |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Or maybe it's the fact that the backstabbing sellout in your avatar.... |
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Colin Ex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. You're pretty good at making friends and influencing people, aren't you? |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Dick Gephardt had nothing to do with the Osama ad or Iowa?? |
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Colin Ex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Dick Gephardt has nothing to do with my criticism of Howard Dean. |
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ihaveaquestion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Whatever (talk to the hand)! n/t |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
65. The DLC sucks eggs. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
76. Deanism broke the bat in just over a week. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
83. "DLC declares intent to further alienate traditional Democratic voters" |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. The same traditional Democratic voters who keep voting for them? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Gore is not really with them anymore. |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #87 |
98. The people who left Gore hanging were the Nader twits |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. The votes never got fully counted. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 05:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. so they have. |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. Well, unless you believe that primary votes are mere pawns |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #86 |
104. Maybe that is why the are the majority in congress and |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
91. THE DLC IS DEAD. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
92. DEAN NEVER SAID YOU *ONLY* ENERGIZE THE BASE... |
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Nazgul35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. amen sister |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. Thank you. I look forward to the day that they are NO LONGER! |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
93. Screw the DLC! |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
96. What is the DLC sooo stupid they want to piss away their base again? |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
105. DLC "WooHoo we have successufully killed the candidacies |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-07-04 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
107. Months ago, the DLC site had articles about the "Dean Putsch" |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-08-04 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
108. What a bunch of arrogant *holes |
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