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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:53 PM
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GERRY ADAMS: "Senator Clinton played an important role in the peace process."

Additionally, the March 12 edition (subscription required) of The Irish Times reported that Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams said,
"Senator Clinton played an important role in the peace process," and former Social Democratic and Labour Party leader John Hume said,
"I can state from first-hand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland."
From The Irish Times report, accessed via the Nexis database:

Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams told The Irish Times that, although he admires all three remaining US presidential candidates and is not endorsing any of them, Mrs. Clinton is justified in claiming a role in the peace process. "David Trimble is reported as saying Senator Hillary Clinton played no part in the Irish peace process. That is not true. Senator Clinton played an important role in the peace process," he said. "I met the senator on many occasions when she was First Lady, and subsequently when she became a senator for New York State. I always found her to be extremely well informed on the issues."

Former SDLP leader John Hume has also come to Mrs. Clinton's defense, expressing surprise that anyone should doubt the importance of her contribution.

"I can state from first-hand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland," he said in a statement posted on Mrs. Clinton's website.

"There is no doubt that the people of Northern Ireland think very positively of Hillary Clinton's support for our peace process, due to her visits to Northern Ireland and her meetings with so many people. In private she made countless calls and contacts, speaking to leaders and opinion makers on all sides, urging them to keep moving forward."

SOURCE: http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2008/3/13/3578969.html
and
http://mediamatters.org/items/200803130004
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:03 PM
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1. Hi, BBJ!
:pals:
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:43 PM
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8. Hi Babylonsister!
:hug: Still love you even though we support different candidates.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:04 PM
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2. Thank you!
Though I notice that nobody has responded, I guess it doesn't fit their narrative.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:11 PM
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3. it's hard to assess one way or other
The only specific activity is "countless calls and contacts, speaking to leaders and opinion makers". That could be critical networking and negotiating, or just friendly nudges.

Her involvement in N. Ireland is still confusing to me.
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Aussie leftie Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:14 PM
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4. I have known for a long time that Bill and Hillary both played a very significant role
I just cant understand why it has taken so long for one of us to think to bring it to DU's attention.

I have read Hillary's biography and am in the midst of reading Bill's. Like his speeches, he has a lot to say and there's a lot to get through in the book. I truly believe that she would make a brilliant president.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:49 PM
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9. If you really like to read, how about Obama's books?
"Dreams Of My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope". :shrug: Education rocks!
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Aussie leftie Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:58 PM
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11. Maybe one day I will.
Its just that its taking me ages to get through Bill's.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:22 PM
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5. So now we know the Obamaslime were lying and projecting about this as they do about everything.
They can't help it, it's who they are, it's what they do.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:56 PM
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10. Stuff it. Not true...
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/01/clinton_and_northern_ireland.html

Clinton and Northern Ireland

The Facts

It is true that Hillary visited Northern Ireland more times than Bill. By my count, she went there six times between 1995 and 2000, while he went four times. But she accompanied her husband as first lady on those four occasions, so they were hardly "independent" visits. (She would sometimes fly in a day early to give a lecture.) She made two visits by herself to the province, in May 1999, when she was the keynote speaker to a women's conference, and a 12-hour trip in October 1997, when she gave a lecture at the University of Ulster.

These visits provide a useful insight into Clinton's first lady experience, and how helpful it will be to her if she makes it all the way back to the White House as president. I just spoke to Senator George Mitchell, the Clinton administration's leading Northern Ireland peace negotiator, who said that Hillary was "not involved directly" in the diplomatic negotiations that led to the landmark April 1998 Good Friday agreement on power-sharing. On the other hand, Mitchell credits Clinton with taking an intelligent interest in the issues and getting acquainted with many of the key players.

"She was very much involved in encouraging the emergence of women in the political process in northern Ireland, which was a significant factor in ultimately getting an agreement," Mitchell told me. Mitchell believes that Clinton's time in the White House enabled her to become "personally acquainted" with world leaders, which will help her if she becomes president.

Chris Thornton, a political reporter for the Belfast Telegraph, said that Hillary Clinton's visits to northern Ireland contributed to the "mood music" that made an eventual settlement possible, but were hardly key to reaching an agreement. "Would we have reached a settlement without that kind of stuff? Yes. Would we have got one without the intervention of Bill Clinton and George Mitchell? No."

Hillary is making a lot more of her Northern Ireland role on the campaign trail than she did in her memoir "Living History." As the Boston Globe recently noted, her stories of bringing Protestant and Catholic women together have become more dramatic with each retelling. The claim that she brought Catholics and Protestants together "for the first time" seems dubious. This would not be the first time that she has mixed up her chronology.
The Pinocchio Test

Hillary Clinton seems to be overstating her significance as a catalyst in the Northern Ireland peace process, which was more symbolic than substantive. On the other hand, she did play a helpful role at the margins, by encouraging organizations like Vital Voices, a women's group that takes a stand against extremism. One Pinocchio for exaggeration.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:10 AM
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12. Fuck the Washington Post. They're a bunch of fake-centrist Republicans.
Gerry Adams is worth more than all the trees they cut down to print this rubbish.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:15 AM
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13. Alrighty. What periodical do you prefer? I bet I can find a similar article.
Or is it your way only? :boring:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:06 AM
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14. It's Gerry Adams' way, actually.
And I'm sure you could find lying contrary spin just about anywhere.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:24 AM
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15. Remember the Plame Investigation
Enough said. The WaPo is only interested in maintaining the status quo of power in DC.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:30 PM
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6. Gerry Adams and David Trimble
aren't exactly golfing buddies. It may not be surprising that Adams would seek to contradict him in public. That's not to say Adams in wrong and Trimble is right, just pointing out that they have their own agendas as well.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:39 PM
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7. just pointing out that they have their own agendas as well" - as do Obama DUers
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:15 PM
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16. No offense intended but
(and I have no idea how much of a role HRC played) but to say anything else would be stupid. After all, she may still be president one day, and only an idiot (like Trimble) would deliberately undercut her. It's called diplomoacy.
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