How's it going Edwards folks

Just thinking about you.

Figured it out yet? Voting for Hillary? Obama? Nobody yet?

I just know that when Kerry decided not to run I was lost for the longest time.

If Edwards endorsed one or the other would you follow him there? I know it helped when Kerry endorsed.

So... how's it going?

very happy with my current choice...........(obama)

both are quite far behind my first choice of Kucinich but I don't have a choice, never really did. The MSM decided it would be between Clinton and Obama long ago.

and all that. I have Monday off from work. And you?:)

so we're still digging out. Like a practical joke from God on the first day of spring.

Otherwise I'm watching my NCAA bracket go poof. First time I've ever filled one out, so I guess that was to be expected.

bracket. The women's team where I teach play DePaul tonight. Oh, and I will absolutely support our nominee, even though he/she is my third choice behind Dennis and John. Good luck digging out.

I feel your pain. No snow here but still way colder than it should be in late march.

Of course, I was only an "Edwards folk" for a short time, between the time DK dropped out and Edwards did. It didn't last long, and I have yet to cast a vote.

That won't be for HRC or Obama, regardless.

If Edwards endorsed one of them, I would lose some respect for him, but it wouldn't affect my choice.

Obama does not inspire me the way Edwards does, sounds funny I know when everyone talks about what a great speaker he is. I agree, but he usually doesn't connect with me the way Edwards did. However, I think he will do better to unite this country because I think he can heal us, whereas Hillary is divisive. Also, I think overall he has run a more positive campaign.

What is your demographic group? Wondering if it's a group Obama is having trouble with.

Not wealthy, but I do better than most. My husband and I (no kids) have savings and investments. We both have college degrees, he even has a couple post-grad classes.

My mother also claims to be left cold by Obama. To us he has come across as a little holier than thou, too perfect. In Hillary Clinton she sees much of her own feminist struggles. But, she also sees Clinton as too divisive and the 3am phone ad was a real turn off.

He's good with younger people and college-educated people and African Americans. I guess I'd suggest reading one of his books to get to know him a bit better. He does seem a bit cool or removed, but I think that's because he is more of an intellectual and not a showman type. And he's got to be very careful about how he presents himself. I'm very aware that he has a very slender tightrope to walk as he campaigns: he can't be an "angry black", and he can't smile all the time and seem like an "Uncle Tom"--there are all sorts of stereotypes waiting to trip him up. It's a lot harder for him than if he were white.

HRC's main problem is seeming strong enough, but I think it's much harder for a black man than for a white woman. Obama has to work twice as hard at presenting himself as an individual person, not a cardboard cut-out. People, especially older people, see the "black man" first, and some don't get past that level. My parents are in their 70s and are like this.

The first thing I did was read The Audacity of Hope. Then I knew pretty much where he was coming from and what his philosophy was. And his intellectual capacity really showed through his writing, and that's something I really respect in a politician. Then I saw how effective he is as a speaker and saw his ability to win people over. At the beginning of this campaign season I wouldn't have put money on a bet that he'd be where he is today though.

You are a bit older than my daughter who is 33 and has two M.A. degrees. She isn't very interested in politics, so to her Clinton and Obama are pretty much the same. She'd probably vote for Obama if I gave her a few good reasons to, though, because she knows I'm paying close attention and she trusts my judgement. But she likes the idea of a woman president too. Her younger sister, 25 prefers Obama.

If your mom is over 60 then she's more likely to be an HRC supporter I guess. But I'm 56 and am for Obama. I'm in the college educated demo so maybe that's why. Also I completed most of my courses in the late 1990s, so maybe that's why I think "younger"? I'm not so fired up about having a woman president above all else. She'd have to be the right woman.


edit: I wasn't for Obama first either. It was 1. Biden, 2. Dodd, then 3. Obama. But he's grown on me. :)

I was a Gore and later Edwards supporter because I like candidates who are well qualified, work hard on developing good and detailed public policy and think more of serving their country than their own personal advancement.

For that reason I chose Clinton. I don't agree with everything she's done in Congress, but she's the most qualified candidate by far and has a record of going to bat for her policy agenda. She also has a history of working collaboratively and listening to others.

Obama is not ready for prime time, but perhaps he will be some day. The world is a far too dangerous place and our country is facing too many serious problems for someone with a fragile ego who needs on the job training.

his campaigning sorta stunk.

But it helps me that Kerry endorsed and now Richardson endorsed the person I finally went with.

Now Obama is slowly growing on me.

Which is exactly what happened with Kerry in 2004.

There were so many screw ups under his watch. Remember the Wen Ho Lee scandal - he caught a lot of criticism for that one. And what kind of energy policy did he advance under Clinton? Nada.

He talks a good game sometimes, but has always struck me as lazy and borderline incompetent.

Only there a couple years I see. Wiki seems to indicate he has his good and his bad points.

IIRC, there were even more problems than the Wen Ho Lee problem under Richardson. I believe they also lost track of a lot sensitive information and materials down at White Sands and some other secure areas. Didn't someone else get in trouble for taking things home with them?

It was a disorganized mess under Richardson's tenure - like Obama he was a real "hands off" manager and it showed.

and NO other public service experience whatsoever. Which completely puts the lie to your phony claim that you support candidates with experience. Obama has considerably more experience that JE.

is outwardly supporting most of Edwards platform. And she is way less eager to bargain with the corporations and the GOP than Barack.Obama's vote to make it harder for consumers to sue corporations is an anathema to me . I would NOT follow John is he endorsed Obama. I make my own decisions. I am glad that John hasn't endorsed anyone.I still feel Edwards was our best choice.And I still have his bumper sticker on. I want to order some, "Don't blame me, I voted for Edwards" stickers.Thanks for asking LC.

I'm about ready to ask for a Kerry for Senate sticker, which is kinda dumb since I'm in Wisconsin, but still and all.

:hug: The only difference is in our first choice. How I remember all the 2004 Edwards/Clark wars. Nothing like now though. Actually now I'd love to have Hillary have the opportunity to offer him the VP, Attorney General, or the head of Health and Human services or the one in charge of the Environment and Conservation. (forgot the title) He's too good a Democratic politician and an intelligent, compassionate human being to retire to his "compound". However...it must be hard for him to not jump on the bus like Richardson. I really admire him for that...even if he eventually does endorse Obama...God I hope not though.

Now that he's out, Hillary has unleashed candidacy hell.

I'm so grateful to John Edwards for setting the agenda for the campaign when he was in it. Substantive, thoughtful, focused on the issues. Hillary would never have dared to run the campaign she has since he left when he was still in it.

I'm very supportive of Barack Obama now, but Al Gore was my first choice, and John second.

For a long time I just lost hope, then when Hillary started her attacks, I decided to take another look at Obama. I went to his site, watched all the debates between him and Hillary, and as the weeks passed by, and Hillary continued to take the debate into the gutter, I made my choice. I now support Obama.

As for who Edwards endorses, well that's his choice, and it won't change my mind one bit. I don't think he would want it any other way. He has said before that it was up to americans to listen to each of them and then decide. That's what I did. Now I still wish he was in the race, but since he is not, I made a new choice.

It's going pretty good. Snow has melted, except in the mountains, and yard work is on my agenda. Spring vacation it coming up at school so I will have lots of help from my children. Can't wait to get the new raise garden beds built and the veggies in the ground!

I'm still hoping for an Edwards presidency eventually, somehow.

That's what I hope for Kerry, but with his endorsement, the only admin he can land in now is Obama's.

I don't feel a connection to Clinton or Obama, even though Obama's rhetoric has more of an effect on me now than it did in the past. Edwards was *my* candidate, and they are not. It's as simple as that. I don't believe in them; at this point, all I want is a victory that grows the party, as large a victory as possible.

I could have believed in Obama, but the McClurkin episode ruined his image for me permanently. He is only the beginning of the road to having a progressive government that really will end the stranglehold of the military/corporate complex, and restore a healthy relationship between humanity and the natural world.

I'm just glad I got the chance to cast my vote for Edwards at a time when it mattered most, even though it wasn't enough in the end.

Fortunately, I have a spare--ditto for my candidate choice!

And it's melting today.

hillary is a only if she is the nominee vote. and praying for obama, because hill seems to prefer mcinsain over a democrat.

can i have somebody more for america instead of themself?

his decision either way won't affect mine.

would not change my vote for Hillary if Edwards were to endorse her...I would have to think that would be a very unwise move...If he is looking for a position in the new administration, I would think he would go with the one that probably has the nomination already and we do know who that would be...odds of about 80% Obama and 20% Hillary...

Primary is finished in MI, time to kick back and watch the storm.

I'll vote DEM in Nov.

Geezer status notwithstanding.

I SHOULD be a matron feminist -- BUT he speaks far more to my values than does Clinton.

He is "gestalt" on the overview -- she is a micromanager on the details.

He is a leader for our times - she is an able executor to fill in the details of the agenda.

She will be the future of the Senate -- he will be a transforming President.

I'm not going anywhere, but I figure I can get a lot of things done around the house. And drink beer on weekdays!

I fell into a "who cares" funk when Edwards dropped out. Neither Clinton nor Obama excite me, but from what I've seen so far, I'd probably vote Obama if I had to choose. He's creating a whole new generation of Democrats by getting young people so excited about politics, I think he has the best chance to win in November, and I really think he can bring some sort of sanity back to our country. I was really impressed by the "More Perfect Union" speech. It was very gratifying to be spoken to as if I were an adult.

That said, I may just write in Kucinich or Edwards in May, just to let the party know they still aren't as progressive as they should be.

Barack hasn't completely convinced me yet, Hillary's on the way down. I'm still not satisfied, and probably won't be, but that's pretty usual for me. I was a 100% Kerry supporter in 2004, which was easy, but his support of Obama didn't sway me this time around. I did think Obama's race speech was good, though.

And I'll hope that Edwards gets a Cabinet position.