I Am A True Disenfranchised Voter

my vote did not count


my vote was not counted


I was denied the right to vote for the candidate of my choosing


I was denied to vote for the 2nd candidate of my choosing


I am made to choose between 2 candidates I did not initially support


my voice was not heard


my voice did not count to my party


I was not given the right to phone bank for my candidate


to go door to door for my candidate


to stand up for my candidate and tell people in my town and my county to vote for my candidate


my right to have my voice heard was turned away.





so tell me why others should have the right to a do-over for breaking the rules when I, like people in 48 other states, all played by the rules and my right to vote wasn't heard?


I wasn't given the right to stand up for joe biden in my state and in my county and in my city. to have my voice heard, to caucus for my candidate. to show my support for the best pick to be president. to sway others to my side.


48 other states played by the rules agreed upon so if 2 of them should get special treatment, then we ALL should get special treatment. because my right to vote for joe biden to begin with is just as important as your right to re-vote after you broke the rules. if not even more important since I was not given a choice to make my vote count.


I do not blame howard dean for the rules terry mcauliffe put into place

I do not blame the DNC for the rules 50 states, americans abroad, and puerto rico all agreed upon

rules that later on, 2 out of 50 decided they didn't want to follow. the criminal shouldn't blame the police for catching them when the criminal is guilty of the crime to begin with.



but if one person is going to complain about their right to vote being disenfranchised because they broke the rules, then those of us who played by the rules should be able to cast our vote without having to write it in or hear our candidate's concede before we have a chance to have our voice's heard and our votes counted.

you cry disenfranchisement? the real disenfranchisement is those of us who played by the rules and never even got to vote for who we truly wanted.

for joe biden

for chris dodd

for bill richardson

for dennis kucinich

for mike gravel

for john edwards

thats true disenfranchisement, not breaking the rules then crying foul


thank you.

It's done, no do overs. Florida and Michigan are toast

I'm tired of hearing how "oh they're disenfranchised, its howard deans fault, howard dean should resign."


I'm sorry, joe biden was the best pick to be president. I never got to have my vote counted.


so its time for people complaining about florida and michigan to stop the crybaby act


otherwise, come talk to us biden and dodd supporters who don't live in iowa if you wanna see some anger about being disenfranchised and having to vote for a lesser candidate.

my state played by the rules.

why does florida and michigan's vote count more than mine?

not have prevented you from writing him in. You were not disenfranchised because the person you supported was not running at the time, you got the right to cast your vote and to have it counted.

my state played by the rules

why is florida and michigan's votes more important for breaking the rules when no one else did it?



if a criminal is caught committing a crime, are the police to blame for catching him and holding him accountable?

I am just saying that you were not disenfranchised, and we were. Our votes do not count, regardless of who we voted for. Yours counted no matter who you voted for.

Saying you were disenfranchised is silly and makes a mockery out of real disenfranchisement when it happens.

I don't put the blame on the disenfranchisement on Howard Dean or the DNC.

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I was deprived of my right to vote for my candidate. thats the textbook definition of disenfranchisement. your vote is not worth more than mine because your state broke the rules does not make you more privileged than me.

your states willfully moved theirs up, no one is taking away your right to vote in the general election either. you are not disenfranchised, by your standards, any more than I am.


the criminal doesn't have higher moral authority for a right than the innocent on the streets.

You were just too lazy or ignorant to find out how. They cannot print ballots that list every person, both running and not running, to accomodate your desire to vote for someone not in the race.

you can still write in the candidate of your choice on the ballot in the fall.

no ones taken that away from you.

"YOU MEAN...WHATS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER?!?!?"

And no one is taking that away from you.

counted even if you were an Iowan.

so because I would vote for a candidate who might not win the nomination then my vote doesn't count


yeah, thanks for proving my point about people crying foul about florida and michigan saying that their votes are more important than anyone elses.

we played by the rules.

I didn't get to vote for my first choices either. I'm sorry, I should have read your post more closely the first time. Is it the date problem?

Most voters are disenfranchised the way we do it.

florida and michigan broke the rules and they wanna now have a revote

and if they don't get their way, they're going to vote for mccain and demand howard dean resign, yadda yadda yadda


well I never got to vote for my candidate, so why does their vote suddenly count more than mine?

its about the principle of the matter.

I'm with you on the principle

the criminal does not have the same moral authority as the innocent on the street.

no ones stopping them from voting in the general election. but otherwise, 48 other states played by the rules and didn't get to vote for who they wanted because their candidate dropped out or whatnot. florida and michigan tried to jump ahead in line.

so why does their primary vote mean anything more than those of us who didn't get to go out for our candidate or vote for them when they were still active?

Me too. In Michigan.....

you can still write your candidate of you choice in in the fall


otherwise, explain why 48 states who played by the rules get made to ride at the back of the bus so 2 states who didn't can get preferential treatment?

why do you want to make 48 other states into second class citizens?

I definitely do not want a Michigan revote. We were cunningly bamboozled by our elected officials and because of them, we were not eligible to vote. They cared more about advancing THEIR choice for the nomination so they rode roughshod over the desires of their citizens to vote for other candidates with an anemic ballot.

I just renewed my monthly pledge to the DNC in support of Howard Dean. I hope he doesn't sanction any kind of revote.

Our governor, senators and other officials screwed us. Send your state officials a "thank you" for obeying rules.

"if one person is going to complain about their right to vote being disenfranchised because they broke the rules"

The individual person didn't break the rules; the Democractic Party leadership in their state broke the rules. Those being disenfranchised are not the same folks who broke the rules. You seem to be advocating punishing a whole lot of innocent people for the transgressions of a few state party leaders.

the guys who worked for the mafia were less guilty than al capone himself.


thanks for clairifying

Sorry, thems the rules. :hi:

5th rec.

I was not given an opportunity to vote for my candidate. What is wrong with this system?

-P

Republican Democracy is meant to enrich the rulers at the expense of your freedom.
Just as Capitalism is meant to enrich the owners at the expense of your well-being.

There hasn't been anyone on the ticket that I would vote for (outside of voting for the one behind to help force a brokered convention) since the week BEFORE super tuesday.

If the nomination is a done deal, I'll write in someone I would have voted for. A symbolic vote that means nothing. If not, I'll vote for whoever needs a win to help push towards a brokered convention.

If I were in Michigan or Florida, I'd be pissed. As a matter of fact, I already am more than pissed. This primary was guaranteed to make the votes of most irrelevant. I understand why some states fought back.

Anyone who thinks the nominee resulting from this transparently corrupt process is the true choice of democratic voters needs a tune-up on their thinking apparatus.

I understand your frustration, AND the frustration of the Florida and Michigan voters.

Their state Dem parties are responsible - they knew what the consequences would be.

I'm with whomever it was "up there" that said the whole system sucks. Gotta find a better way to do it.

Seriously, you cannot require candidates to stay in the race beyond their own willingness to do so.

Yes, I'd have caucused for other candidates before I went with Obama. I was a Kucinich voter, and then an Edwards voter, and then an Obama voter. The reality is that candidates must gauge the effectiveness of their campaigns and then choose to stay in the race or not.

I know that I don't have the power to force DK or JE to stay in the race, as hard as that may be. We cannot force them to stay in the race.

Now, relative to the MI and Fl issues--those state parties made a conscious decision to risk their constituencies' status in a power-grab. Those state parties tried and are still trying to blackmail the rest of the Dem voters in the rest of the country to give in to their bullying tactics. Personally, I'm not too excited about the idea of the DNC agreeing that FL and MI are more important than the rest of the country.