Richardson says Clinton running gutter campaign.

Tell us something we don't know, Governor!



http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-talk/2008/03/richardson_scorns_clinton_aide.html?hpid=topnews

Hillary needs to distance herself from that trash.

I've stated before I like senator clinton herself, but her advisors shes decided to take with her are utter trash

they're really dragging her legacy down historically. carville, penn, mcauliffe. TRASH!

Is he giving her a pass?

When will this be OVER?

So the heading on this post is misleading.

That's his style.

:hug:

Richardson has tact.

Something Hillary lacks, as we saw in the revolting "skies will part" harangue.

...and it's obvious that Hillary was deep in the throes of a
massive brain seizure during that display.

I vote we have a fundraiser for her.

...Bill Richardson will be speaking to support her at the convention.

Perhaps he doesn't want to directly criticize her for that reason.

Don't Think Hillary stands a chance and don't think he is naive enough to think she would ever forgive him.

...at the convention if she's the nominee.

And if the moon was made of green cheese, lunar colonization would be a cinch.

We call this a counter-factual hypothetical. Your conclusion is meaningless when your hypothesis is ridiculous.

...is ridiculous?

I would describe that as two reasonable possibilities.

Eric?

Essentially, there are now only three ways Clinton can claim the nomination:

1. She wins collosal victories in all the remaining primaries and somehow convinces the DNC to seat the disputed ones. Highly unlikely.
2. The Obama campaign collapses for some reason. Always possible but seems unlikely at this point.
3. She convinces the superdelegates to overturn the will of the primary voters. I'm not sure how many superdelegates she'd have to convince to do this but this is the most likely way for Clinton to get the nomination and even this isn't very likely since the superdelegates have to be aware that it would look awful and alienate many probable Dem voters in the GE.

on Richardson. Especially, as her supporters are now trying to spin that Richardson's endorsement is worthless.

When your mantra is "win at all costs," you are likely to be devoid of conscience, consideration, and class.

J

a worthy potential running mate.

As the saying goes.

She is responsible for what goes on in her reprehensible campaign.

Just kidding. The truth is a hard one.

Poor Hillary, it must hurt to be not so "inevitable" afterall.

Poor Hillary, Obama won't just roll over and play victim when she makes groundless attacks against him.

Poor Hillary, she can't scrub that blood off her hands of all the US troops and Iraqis who've died due to her vote for the Torturer-in-Chief's illegal wars.

Poor Hillary ... it must suck to be you.




Free the Clinton Tax Returns!

He said, as you accurately quote, that some of the people around her are practicing "gutter" politics.

Your title is a distortion of what he said.

Can't have it both ways. Either she approves of this, or she is an ineffective leader.

Take yer pick...

Why else would he be giving Hillary a pass and only blaming those around her? :rofl:

tyvm

Saying Obama and Axelrod were running a campaign that was typical of a Republican style campaign. Saying Axelrod called an interview slamming Hillary that she will win at all costs. Obama passing photos of Bill and Wright to the NY Times. Accusing Clinton of passing a photo of Obama in African garb without knowing the facts and relying on drudge. Playing the race card. Distorting her record. Sending out mailers for Reps and Indy's to change there vote for a day. Stating she is only staying in the race to let McCain win. He went on to say Richardson is supporting Obama because of future political gains. So, Richardson needs to quit spewing anti-Clinton comments because he is only helping to splinter our party.

Thanks.

burn everyone around you anyone?

I just ran across a magazine from 1991, with Hillary & Tipper on the cover. Inside was the story of the Mattlin Carville Romance. ( She was working for GHW Bush's campaign, James working for Bill CLinton's) SO sweet, so young, so in love against all odds!
17 years later it's obvious who is the stronger in the marriage! Maybe he should try a SPitzer?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

She is doing that very well on her own. Sniper fire comes to mind, NAFTA, voting for the war, not showing her tax records. Married to experience doesn't mean Yoko Ono is a Beatle. At least Yoko wouldn't have voted for war.

Hell,we even have a black football QB n Philly (you know Rush's Old Pal) NOT on speaking terms with the Carpetbagger Guv!

Hey,that's the ticket! Clinton/Rendell Will fulfill all your carpetbagging dreams:puke:

Ahh, those rose colored glasses... got a second pair?

:eyes:

but can't admit it yet. It all comes down to cold, hard numbers and she knows the nomination is lost.

This demonstration of the tactic of twisting facts brought to you by DUbamasOfGD-P, Inc.

Can you help me out here?

:shrug:

Richardson said that Clinton's campaign is using gutter politics.

The only one twisting words and logic is you.

He directly stated that Clinton's campaign is using gutter politics.

But despite your attempted cleverness, I cannot find a negative quote from Richardson about Obama.

Silly DUbamas.

Sorry if that is bad news for you but really, your multiple, largely unintelligible replies to these threads indicates neurosis of some type.

I suggest you see a doctor.

I'm wondering who's saying these heinous things that good ole Tabasco's reacting against, and then I look up and see ignore.

what a satisfying feature ;)

It's good that few DUbamas resemble actual Obama supporters.

:crazy:

But Democratic voters weren't swayed by that. I didn't go into this election as an Obama supporter, but he has earned my vote by the way he has acted in the face of the harshest tactics by the media, the pugs and Clinton(s). If he can keep his focus despite all of that, and still come off as a competent leader (he has by most accounts, Lutz not withstanding) then he can handle Putin and Maliki and the rest of a bad lot.

When Richardson dropped out, Keith Olbermann said at the conclusion of the interview that he thought Bill would have made a wonderful President.

I'm not well informed on Richardson, but every thing I see so far I really like!

-90% Jimmy

If anyone should be ashamed of themselves, it' them.

It's the same thinking that let Bush off the hook for years because people kept saying it was just the people around him. Funny thing, all the people around him have changed but Bush keeps doing the same damned things. Maybe it really is the people in charge.

But I do give her a bit of a pass on Bill. She is pretty much stuck with him, politically speaking.

Penn, Ickes, etc., they CAN be blamed on her. Assuming, of course, that it is she (not Bill) who is calling the shots. Of course if Bill is calling the shots, she's just plain unfit to be POTUS.

Jesus, nepotism really complicates things, doesn't it? That is yet another argument against a second Clinton in the WH.

person around him that hasn't changed and is prolly wholly responsible for most bushbot action.....

Darth Cheney

..so amazed and impressed with the composure and dignity of Bill Richardson. To say "gutter' is too kind to these political thugs and sleaze merchants.

which was brilliant because Richardson is a very Catholic as is James and it went right to the core of Richardson beliefs .

The little cajun may have started something he'll regret

Her behavior/decision making is buried several feet beneath the gutter right now.
She's paying good money for these gutter level decisionmakers, dammit. Least she is **paying someone**..more than she can say for the people her campaign owes money to (food stores, schools/universities for their building use, catering services).

Think about it..if they made good decisions for her she'd be doing better and wouldn't NEED all the consultant companies (take a peek at her FEC list, how many listings you see for "consultants"). She does better = doesn't need them = they are out of a job.

Hillary has been scammed like a rube by this Mark Penn character for MILLIONS.

and I don't think his endorsement of Obama was easy, but it's obvious that for a while now, he has seen and been disgusted with the way the Clintons campaigned.

And the remarks coming from the Clinton camp over his endorsement are telling. Calling him "Judas" as though he had some obligation to endorse Hillary after serving in her husband's administration is pathetic. It's especially rich coming from the likes of James Carville. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to strong arm him into not running in the first place to allow her to walk to the nomination.

The Clintons have proven once again, how good they are at leaving former supporters behind, looking out only for themselves, and burning bridges along the way.

Richardson does not conflate the candidate and her campaign. It would be best if we all did not conflate the two (on both sides). There is a connection, but a candidate does not equal the campaign.

Opportunist. Backstabber. Piece of shit. Wannabe-playa. I guess he thinks he'll get Obama's VP slot (assuming Obama gets the nom). He'll be a loser, barely a footnote in history.

Bake

:toast:

They understand the concept of loyalty. Richardson had better hope Obama wins the nom, because he's just burned a lot of bridges.

Bake

I think you went to the core about what this prolonged battle is all about. It's no longer about the candidates. It's about the Clinton people retaining control of the party. They don't like Dean and Obama because neither are part of their "political family", the DLC.

This is DLC against the left. They scored ONE major victory and sent the Congress into the hands of the Republicans. They ran "Republican Light" administrations. It's time for them to go.

I know you dig Hillary, but, at what cost? When will it be cool for her to end her campaign and support the party?

He'd be a freaken hero to you if he backed Sen Clinton..
Geeeze

He polled at 5% support in the race, AT MOST. He's a non-issue, except for his backstabbing bullshit. Democrats lose, in part, because they have no sense of loyalty.

Bake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFgHqyq9J3c
i repeat "whatever"

Your bias is showing.

Richardson was free to endorse who he wanted--and he doesn't owe the Clintons a damn thing.

So Hillary is Jesus Christ now? :shrug:

That's reserved for the Messiah, Obama, of course.

"Judas" is an accepted synonym for "traitor," just like "Benedict Arnold." But you knew that, didn't you.

Bake

What a crock of shit.

Bye

n/t

we are all not this foaming at the mouth - "fucking JUDAS", "Piece of shit", "loser". The man chose to back the one he felt best for the job - it is unworthy of such vile behavior.

Welcome to ignore - surely, one of many.

Very dimplomatic.

not.

Now, more will listen now that Gov. Richardson states it.

campaign has known and now Guv Richardson has put out there in the ethers and it's up for public consumption. The Governor is a great addition to the Obama campaign.

n/t.

This decision has changed my mind. He has demonstrated courage to speak the truth.

Bye!!!!!

... with all your 'now you're on my ignore list' posts?

"Neener neener, I'm going to ignore you. So there!"
How very third grade!!

Just put them on ignore and be done with it.

Bye!

lolcano!

Now go to your room..and no Neil Boortz tonight!:smoke:

and that's part of the reason she repels me.

yup

be in the running.

I don't like either candidate.

That also includes Edwards and others.

"We wish the issues of race and all of this other stuff would be pushed to the background"

"some whites are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate,”-Ed Rendell

"Obama has trouble winning Hispanic voters"

"Bill Richardson is Judas!"

And they wonder why she's losing...

Wow he really chose his side. Coming from an ex Clinton cabinet member, it's particularly harsh. Methinks there are a LOT of superdelegates that will choose Obama for just these reasons. Hopefully after the next round of voting, when Hillary doesn't get the blowout victories she needs, enough super-delegates will declare for Obama and end this thing.

Richardson accuses Clinton of running a gutter campaign, while Obama emissary McPeak makes the false claim that Bill called Obama unpatriotic.

Hillary as a superdelegate. Since he said the "will of the people" should decide, and we all know Hillary won NM.

I live him even more now!

i am sick of someone who cannot make up their mind on what they want to do with their life. he's our governor, then he's a candidate, then he's our governor again. i'm sick of his indecision and backstabbing. he needs to STFU and stop pandering for a job. he's got a job & there are a few more years left on that job. i am as sick of Richardson's crap as I am sick of Obama's racist crap. both of them need to STFU.

fraud. I didn't ever like him. Whinny crybaby.

Richardson is a fraud and as dope.

And, the SOB wants to steal water from the Great Lakes for his desert state. FH! Not enough water? Too bad. What a horse's ass he has become.

Claiming that someone should make decisions based on some kind of "loyalty" or debt owed is exactly what's been going on for the past eight years. Incompetent dumbasses like "Brownie" and Harriet Miers only came into the public radar because of such middle school BS. If Richardson sees Obama as the best choice for our party and our nation, then he is right for doing exactly what he did. The absolute wrong thing to do, or should I say W. rong thing to do, would be to let "loyalty" trump judgment. Open your eyes and quit letting your personal preference for Clinton cloud your own judgment.

Lost me at the Logo/Visible Vote debate.

But really a fine choice for Obama as VP.