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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:14 AM
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I think an Obama/Richardson ticket could win Texas (34 electoral votes)
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 11:18 AM by book_worm
Here is the breakdown per CNN of exit polls from Texas in 2004:
White voters made up 66% of voters and went for Bush 74-25
African-American voters made up 12% of voters and went to Kerry 83-17
Latino voters made up 20% of total voters and went for Kerry narrowly 50-49.

You can bet that turnout among African-American and Latino voters will be up to record levels with the first African-American and Latino nominees. This will push down the total number of white voters. I think we can get African-American numbers up to 15% or more of the total turnout and Latino numbers up to 25% or more.

I think that Obama/Richardson would improve on Kerry's 83% of the African-American vote and bring that up to 90-95 percent.

I think Obama/Richardson would make huge inroads among Latino voters pushing Kerry's 50% up to 75-80%.

If the White vote can get under 60% I think even if Obama/Richardson won 25-30 percent of that vote with huge turnouts and inroads among hispanics and blacks they could conceivably carry Texas.

This is another reason why I think Bill Richardson would be a great running mate for Obama.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/TX/P/00/epolls.0.html
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:15 AM
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1. you are friggin dreaming
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:25 AM
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10. He's got a much better chance that Hillary
who won't do anything in Texas except make ATM stops. (See her comments to Texas Monthly) Obama will actually fight for Texas & there are lots of Dems & disenchanted independents & Rs who are tired of getting the mushroom treatment who could swing the vote his way.

dg
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:27 PM
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26. No one can argue that. At the very least, McCain will have to compete for TX
With Hillary, he wins the state in a walk.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:16 AM
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2. I agree
I think it could be a whole new map. We should underestimate the damage Bush has done.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:18 AM
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3. Maybe. I think I want Maize Horono
I may start of support group for her run as VP.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:19 AM
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4. I think you can win the Powerball, go buy lots of tickets
Obama win Texas...
:rofl:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:20 AM
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6. Why wouldn't a Obama/Richardson win Texas?
give your analysis then maybe I'll take you seriously.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:24 AM
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9. Check out the microscopic
percentage of the Hispanic vote Richardson got in the primary. Texans have already had an opportunity to vote for him and declined.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:33 AM
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14. That's because Richardson dropped out almost a month before Texas
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:48 AM
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22. Why should that make a difference?
just kiddin'.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:30 PM
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28. Edwards had dropped out, too.
He still got a lot more votes than Richardson.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:29 AM
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13. Because I've lived in Texas for over 20 years
and I'm very familiar with the politics.
Where do you live?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:42 AM
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16. Mmm, yeah, I've lived here for twenty years too.
We would definitely have a better shot with Obama in than with Clinton.

Plus, a million -- or even half a million -- activists is a LOT of footpower. :think:
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:15 PM
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25. For the record, I dont think Clinton could win TX either
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:34 PM
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29. So lets get this straight, you have lived in Texas and you believe...
that Texans are so stupid that they want another 4 years of Bush/McCain and they want the country and economy to continue on its path? I just want to clear this up for everyone because I didn't think any state was that stupid but then I didn't live there, you did.

When you respond, give us details on why you think they are so ignorant.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:42 PM
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31. Let me guess, you're not from Texas...
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 02:43 PM by BigDDem
Texans chose an idiot with virtually no accomplishments over
Gov. Ann Richards. Said idiot went on to win reelection for
governor and has been in the White House the last 8 years due
to help from Texas' electoral votes.

Oh, and no Dem president candidate has won Texas in 32 years.
If you are under the impression that BO can carry TX, dream on!
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:20 AM
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5. You are right....
a SUSA poll had Obama 3 points behind McCain in Texas (without the Richardson effect) that would come from Richardson being in the VP slot.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:22 AM
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7. You may be right, but it will be uphill...
Richardson had some trouble identifying himself with Latino voters, not because he has Anglo parentage (and name), but because he didn't have a "national" name i.d. with Latinos and did too little to rectify the situation. There may also be resistance by some white voters in supporting two "minorities" running for office.

On the other hand, Richardson strongly supports 2A and has his own CCW. Not a shabby position to counteract Obama's bad record on the Second.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:46 AM
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19. I don't doubt that. If we can make Texas competitive that has the advantage of focing McCain to
spend time there rather than in Ohio or some other state.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:29 PM
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27. Yep. The 50 state strategy is starting to pay off big-time
Why in hell would we even consider nominating a candidate who wants to dismantle what Dean has accomplished?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:22 AM
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8. This state is more and more purple every day.
Also, we had a MILLION people attend the precinct conventions. A MILLION. If even half of them -- hell, if even a quarter of them -- come out to work the election -- can you IMAGINE the volunteer army?!

Turn Texas, and you're in like Flynn, baby.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:26 AM
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11. The Republicans' irrational fears
of Hispanics would ensure that combo would not win the GE.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:27 AM
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12. I have a problem with this issue in relation to Bill Richardson.
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1057Parallel problems have now surfaced in New Mexico, where a bitter recount battle is also being waged. At a public hearing in Columbus convened by Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), senior Democrat on the US House Judiciary Committee, Rev. Jesse Jackson testified that Sen. Kerry was informed in a phone conversation that optical scan machines were being used in New Mexico to steal votes

But New Mexico's Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson has refused to cooperate with Green Party and Audit the Vote activists demanding a recount, acceding to decisions that could raise the price for a recount to well over a million dollars. Despite its huge leftover war chest, the Democratic Party has not come forward to help push New Mexico's recount, which many believe could give the state to Kerry.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:35 AM
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15. there sure are a lot of "if"s in your proposition
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:45 AM
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18. There are always "If's" in politics. The biggest 'If' is if Richardson is the running mate
otherwise I don't think Obama will win Texas--though I think he would still make it more of a race than Hillary.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:44 AM
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17. The AA vote in Texas should be higher this year anyway
Texas ended up with plenty of people, many of them black, who lived in Louisiana in 2004. :(
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:47 AM
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20. Hels polling well against McCain

That would be huge!
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:47 AM
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21. We need to make Obama-Richardson happen!!
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:48 AM
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23. Tracking polls have shown McCain to have a razor-thin lead on Obama in Texas
Hillary would be soundly defeated.

A Richardson VP might lock up the Hispanic vote and then it's all over for McCain. ¡Si se puede!
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:10 PM
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24. Richardson would also be a big help in NV, CO, AZ, NM and CA
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:41 PM
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30. Obama ALONE makes Texas competitive.
Richardson would make it VERY competitive. Also, would bring in Colorado, and New Mexico.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:35 PM
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32. Well, I'm not an Obama or Clinton supporter
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 04:36 PM by Ishoutandscream2
and a I'm a lifelong Texan, and I believe that ticket would be very strong in Texas. I believe you are on to something here.
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