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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:25 PM
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Poll question: Has anyone here changed their opinion of Obama because of the Wright controversy and his speech?
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 12:28 PM by democrattotheend
Just curious. Please comment if you get a chance, especially if you switched or made up your mind. Also, I did not have enough options, so please state if the controversy has made you decide you won't even vote for Obama in the general.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:26 PM
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1. I still support Clinton, but I have more respect for Obama now. n/t
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:28 PM
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2. I have more respect for him now too
I supported him before but respect him now more than ever.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:36 PM
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8. That roughly reflects my feelings also. n/t
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:38 PM
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34. I'll go with that choice too...
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:33 PM
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3. Have 3 people really bought into the "bad judgment" meme and abandoned Obama for it?
I find that hard to believe. If people stopped supporting him because of electability that would be one thing, but I would think people here would be intelligent enough to understand that there is more to Obama's pastor than the charicature that has been portrayed by the media. I wonder if Clinton supporters are selecting that option to demoralize us.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:35 PM
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6. probably .
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:06 PM
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24. They are lying. See my post below. The numbers don't add up to other polls. nt
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:58 PM
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40. My first guess would be that the representative samples in DU polls is
so small as to make them unreliable. It would also depend on who has been on line and participated in the poll in the short time it has been up. I wouldn't assume at this point that anyone was lying because some numbers didn't agree with previous polls.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:34 PM
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4. I haven't heard Obama's speech,
and didn't pay much attention to the Wright brouhaha (because it wasn't Obama who said those things).

I've drifted toward Obama because my candidate didn't make the cut. If I were 100% neutral, the Wright thing wouldn't have influenced me, but Obama's speech may have. I've GOT to listen to that speech!

Another gateley post which says nothing of substance. :7
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:36 PM
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9. Do yourself a favor
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:45 PM
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16. Thanks, WesDem!
I'm on it! :hi:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:38 PM
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13. gateley...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:47 PM
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18. Ouch! Stop that!
You and WesDem and put an end to my procrastination. On my way.

:hi:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:35 PM
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5. Did then. Do now, only more so. nt
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:35 PM
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7. I have supported Clinton before, but I still have to decide
if I would vote for Obama in GE if he were to get the nomination, and this Wright business isn't helping.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:37 PM
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10. It was a great speech in response to a bogus manufactured outrage controversy
but I supported him before, just as I do now.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:37 PM
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11. Yes,
I now believe there is no way in hell he can get elected in the general and my confidence in Democratic Leadership is at an all time low that they allowed it to get to this point.

Hillary is Our only option to win the WhiteHouse back,she must win the nomination.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:04 PM
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22. So you were for Obama before this?
Or were you always a Clinton support and now just more convinced?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:16 PM
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43. And if Obama gets the nod who will you vote for?
The whole point is to beat McCain, if Obama and Clinton supporters keep playing this media driven right-wing game then we will lose. Right now we just need every Dem to vote Dem... no matter who gets the nod..
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:41 PM
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46. Agreed!
We are the activists of the party. If we can't all agree to do whatever it takes to get either Democrat in the White House we're handing the presidency to McCain.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:37 PM
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12. Do Hilllarys's brothers bother anyone?
their dubious past?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:39 PM
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14. Heh. Good point. How 'bout her husband?
:hide:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:41 PM
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15. Not me.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:22 PM
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27. Not unless she was involved with it
Otherwise I don't think she should be judged by her brothers' actions anymore than Obama should be judged for what his pastor does and says.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:54 PM
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28. that was the point
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:47 PM
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17. We on DU
have known for quite sometime the Media isn't out for our best interest. We know they slant stories. They participated in the most heinous crime of helping the NEOCONS lead us into a needless war. They have willfully covered up the crimes of this administration, and to this day continue to do so.

My question, is why now do you place such high value in them? What has changed? What point did you begin to trust them again? What the media has done is nothing short of a character assassination, against Obama, and Rev. Wright. They had cherry-picked, about the same as they cherry-picked the intelligence to go to war. And reported it, the same.

How can you claim to have known they were reporting lies about the war, yet can't see the same tactic being used against a fellow Democrat. I don't believe the Clinton's had anything to do with this...its GOP generated. But the Clintons are to blame for their silence. The Party as a whole, are to blame for their Silence. Each and every Democrat, should be denouncing these tactics.

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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:02 PM
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21. "Character assassination" is the term I've been using
You are spot on about that, IMO.
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elana i am Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:49 PM
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19. i voted something else...
because it made me respect obama much more, but didn't convince me 100% to vote for him. since kucinich and edwards dropped out i'm an ABC (anybody but clinton) voter. that means if he's nominated, i'll probably vote for him in the general. but if my mood is off that day, i'll be writing in kucinich. i like obama, but he's just not progressive enough to quell that inner voice of my conscience. political expediency irks.

i don't have anything nice to say about clintons.

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:54 PM
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20. I was luke-warm for Obama before, now I'm a rabid Obamanian.
He stood up to the lies and the Clintonian RW spin machine. He DIDN'T abandon his long-time freind and pastor over what was essentially a hit job. AND HE TOLD THE TRUTH.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:05 PM
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23. Interesting. Clinton usually gets around 15% in DU polls now suddenly
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 01:06 PM by Quixote1818
there is 8% support for her with another 8% who just switched from Obama to Clinton???? Nice try to those Clinton supporters who are lying about switching.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:08 PM
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25. She's at 11% in the current straw poll
So yeah, something's definitely out of whack. I doubt anyone who actually supported Obama before and cares enough about the election to be on this message board actually believes it shows poor judgment on his part to the point of abandoning him. If it were for electability reasons it would be more believable.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:10 PM
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26. nope. i still don't like or trust him.
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 01:10 PM by bpeale
actually, it reinforces exactly the way i feel. i didn't like or trust him before either. and i despise his wife.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:04 PM
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29. Has my opinion of Obama changed? No.
Has my opinion of others changed? Yes, a liitle. I thought the US was a little further along when I think of the hypocrisy due to some of the prominent white bigot preachers in the US. Almost funny if not sad.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:36 PM
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33. Me too
I thought maybe this country had moved further along than it has with regard to race relations. This whole "scandal" proves how far behind we still are, and it's depressing.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:06 PM
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30. I supported Barack previously and support him even more strongly now.
I believe his handling of the entire Wright issue was well done and provides yet more evidence that he will do well in the GE.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:07 PM
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31. Something else.
I didn't support him before, I don't support him now, and I'm not going to be supporting him.

I didn't support HRC before, I don't support her now, and I'm not going to be supporting her.

I did support DK, and I found things about Biden and Richardson that would have put me in their camp if they were nominated. I supported Edwards for a short few weeks until he dropped, too, and I haven't supported anyone since.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:10 PM
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32. If I lived in Chicago, I might take in a service at the church . . .
and I'm an atheist. Much of what Wright said was true and the truth sometimes hurts.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:44 PM
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36. Wright is coming to Houston some time soon, I'm thinking about going to see him ...
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:41 PM
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35. My opinion of both has gone down. Which is exactly what going negative is intended to
accomplish. They both need to be attacking McCain/Bush in no uncertain terms instead of this silliness.

I'll still probably vote for whatever in November, but the difference is I'll have to hold my nose to do it, whereas for a while I was actually thinking I might not have to do that this time around . SIGH.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:01 PM
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38. Who did you vote for in the primary?
If you don't mind my asking.
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:48 PM
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39. Dennis the K!
I was going back and forth between he and Edwards & in the end - I thought why not give my vote to the guy who lives and breathes progressivism for real. Although I thought Edwards was more articulate about corporatism and where the real problems lie...

I believe primaries &/or caucus should be where we get to vote for our real choice and then there should be a process (BASED ON PLATFORMS & concrete policy issues) to come up with the nominee.

This process we have is a total farce.

Well hey a gal can dream!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:59 PM
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37. No. It's a complete non-issue to me.
People jump on the dumbest things.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:13 PM
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41. Agreed n/t
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:15 PM
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42. LOL! Talk about a handful of shit that didn't stick!
We're over 1500 threads dedicated to Wright, and it didn't have any impact.

:rofl:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:21 PM
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44. Yeah, but we read more than the average voter
I am still really worried that this has stuck among the broader electorate.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:38 PM
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45. No doubt that the MSM has had an impact. Similarly, all the energy spent at DU has been wasted.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:47 PM
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47. Supported Obama before, still do today but I..
think his great speech was nothing but a political sideshow that he knew he HAD to give to avoid having the Wright issue take over his entire campaign. The issue still lurks and will return full force in the GE. The great speech failed to answer the questions that we all know wthe media will bring up in the fall, and the great speech was not one he wanted to give, so why he gets so much credit for it beats me?

Maybe Im overly cynical, but I dont expect his speech to have any effect on race relations in the US. If he does not win the prescideny, no one will be talking about that speech a year from now.

I'll vote for the Dem nominee, regardless of who it is.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:48 PM
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48. No. I already knew about his church and he handled it very well.
I support him as much as ever.
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