There is something strange about Hillary's "misstatement"

I have disagreed with her about many things and am not a supporter, but I don't think she is stupid. Why would she lie in front of TV cameras about something that could so easily be checked?

Also, I heard and saw her tell this story for the first time today on Keith, and she did not have the mannerisms of someone lying. She seemed to really believe what she was saying. She even laughed and smiled as if to suggest that it wasn't that big of a deal.

I just can't think of an explanation for this "misstatement." Nothing makes sense to me.

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I'll shut up now. I just realized that no one can really answer this question, anyway.

is having delusional daydreams...we need to know it now.

A sane person doesn't all of a sudden remember that a warm greeting with flowers and a child was ducking and running to a safe convoy.

It just doesn't happen.

No....it doesn't.

Just off a little.

When I went to an Elton John concert with my family, there were gunshots. My sister said she wasn't going to take cover unless her fiance did.

I have never let her live it down. Now my husband who was there at the time, says it was a car backfiring and and remembers it completely different. Of course, I am the one who is correct and corrorborate with my other family members who were there.

The mind is a tricky thing sometimes, especially with memories.

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"you have never had a memory lapse, or remembered something differently than actuality."

Not like that...no, I haven't. Come and get me with a butterfly net if I do.

You ever heard the saying, your mind is playing tricks on you.

All these years she believed she was shot at and she doesn't mention it until now?

Look, I don't think its that big a deal. She got caught embellishing -- she's not the first pol to do it and she won't be the last. It was incredibly stupid of her since she could've made a point by simply discussing how she went to Bosnia and saw first hand what was going on there. Instead, she had to make it into something more. It was stupid, but the extent to which folks are tying themselves in knots to avoid admitting she did something stupid -- but not disqualifying -- is quite ludicrous.

BTW, I'm an Obama supporter (who will support the Dem nominee whomever he/she is)

But she didn't get any of it right. I am sorry, but trying to spin this one just isn't going to work.

Believe me, it is something that you NEVER forget!

She really does have a rich fantasy life.

that was a right-wing lie. I'm not at all surprised to see it repeated here.

I wouldn't suggest that she try to pass off her "guided imagery conversations" with Eleanor Roosevelt and Gandhi as something out of the vast right wing conspiracy. She's taken that hog to the trough one too many times. Jean Houston was her "spiritual advisor"
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Houston) and the suggestion that she speak to the dead received attention first from Bob Woodward.

conversing with Eleanor Roosevelt. That was a right-wing characterization.

The likes of that hadn't been seen in the White House since Nancy Reagan consulted astrologers to plan Reagan's schedule.
But I'm not saying Eleanor didn't talk back to her. It's just something that rubs some people the wrong way.

But I have yet to "remember" something that didn't actually happen. Now if this had happened somewhere else and she got the dates wrong, that would be different. Still, she seemed to actually believe it.

sniper fire and having a 8-year old read me a poem.

If this lapse of memory is her excuse, she has bigger problems than the primaries, IMO.

we need one with a memory!

Despite being there for 20 years worth of sermons?

Give me a break on the memory thing.

Happens ALL the time!

the video of her recollection of that moment was bizarro in light of it being a misstatement.

This is just the tip of the distortions she has pushed that gives her experience.

where she thinks she can say any old shit that crosses her lips, and since the interwebs haven't been invented -- she will not be vetted on it (or have great delays passing over many news cycles).

Sorry, but if she lied, it's a big deal.

that she no longer is in touch with the truth.

Hell, she can't even say it right.

I definitely want a President who is at least as proficient with the internets as I am. Is that too much to ask?

I dont believe she considered the consequences, its just that making her role in past events sound more important than they really were just got the better of her and she made a comment that was easily verifiable as a lie.

prepared. It wasn't like she just got caught up in the moment.

she says it wasn't safe for the president to go. so why did she bring chelsey?:think:

Is she just mixing this up with another trip? I think we would have heard about it if it was that simple.

she's 85 -- has dementia and auditory hallucinations. when she tells the stories about her "imaginery" people she gets very animinated and at times even cries. we go along with her stories because in her mind they are real.

after Super Tues..inevitability and all that. hilary lies easily..I've watched her.

a clip about Sinbad being with her and him agreeing. I don't know how all this got started but of course the Hill bashers pick up on something they won't let go whether it's true or not. It's hard to believe they call themselves democrats.

Sinbad did not agree with HRC, he disagreed. Every single person on that trip who has spoken about this has confirmed that what HRC claims happened, did not happen. The only ones who can't seem to face the truth are posters like you. HRC screwed up. It shouldn't be the end of her campaign or the end of the world. She should admit what is obvious -- she embellished because it made for a more compelling narrative. Politicians do it all the time. Hell, Reagan did it regularly. Does it make it right? No. Does it make it forgivable? Yes, but only if she'll acknowledge what she did.

my husband and I were just discussing the same thing...had this really happened the news coverage on this would have been global. Media would have had diagrams and impressive graphics on this, the video would have been played and replayed...ALL OF US WOULD HAVE REMEMBERED IT.

So what possible reason would she lie like this? I have no clue. It's like we have just stepped through the looking glass, nothing makes sense.

I shit you not!

trip. I'm sure everyone would understand.

you are.

I am what?

Clearly.

Or did you not bother to read my linked post?

by with comments by someone who had been stationed there.

They said there were only two airports in Bosnia that could accomodate the C-17 Aircraft the flew in, the one in the video and Sarajevo, and they didn't go to Sarajevo on this trip.

the NYT, the AP, the LA times, the berzerkley barb, you know, everyone....

someone even WANTING to shoot at her during that trip would've moved a lot of paper......

She said Tuzla.....repeatedly......

Never mentioned gunfire in her book........

a load of crap is a load of crap
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She doesn't write her stump speeches so she probably didn't have any idea what it said before she read it in front of that small audience. Then she just didn't want to throw her speech writer under the bus, as far as I know.

She's much more polished than that.

This is yet another way in which HRC is just like Bush Jr--they both blatantly lie because they think they have the MSM so cowed that they won't bring it up or point it out.

If HRC was that nasty to Richardson when he made The Call, you can just imagine how she is to reporters who don't do as they are told.

Shes counting on the vast right wing.

She continues to lie more confidently because she knows she won't be called on it.

I'm saying that too much lately

"No man has a good enough memory to make a successful liar."

Abraham Lincoln

while forgetting that people record things.

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rocknation

Did they both have the same false memory?

in time they are irretrievably delusional

it's social pathology 101

She needs to save her credibility and be a good Senator from NY.

She doesn't need to tear the Democratic Party in two.

She lost fair and square. She is mathematically eliminated.

She should back Obama and save the Democratic Party

it doesn't seem like the kind of mistake she'd make. Maybe she actually is starting to believe her own lies though. It happens.

Bullshit. This was an outright lie that she was aware of up front. No speech writer would put something like that in a speech and surprise her with it. Not and keep their job. But perhaps that will be her next attempt at getting out of this. Lie again and blame someone else. Have them quit.

She needs to go back to the Senate and start pushing the things she's been talking about on the trail. Force Bush to do what the people want for a change. Call McSame what he is and stop the false praise of him.

In other words, care more about her country and party than herself. Doubt she will though. Sad.

Or a part of the trip that didn't include her daughter? I can think of explanations, but if they were true, I think we would have heard them by now.

when her fear set in ..... her imagination took over.

The other thing I noticed is that she looks so tired. Completely different from New Hampshire.

Could it be that she is suffering some serious fatigue - these guys are going 20 hours a day.

No one saluted, so she changed her tune.

TYPICAL CLINTON.

So she wouldn't tel lies?..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plM6zulA2FM

besides, in her rebuttal, she had a coherant reply until near the end and then she used the terms, you know....three times in a row almost. You usually do that when you are trying to make something up and need time to think in between thoughts...you know......????

... assuming it wouldn't be questioned. She probably thought the media was still cowed by her earlier harassment of them, and so wouldn't aggressively fact check her.

Oopsy.

All part of her fabricating her so-called "experience," and toy soldiering. (see: W flight suit)

and after reading your thoughtful replies, I still don't get it. She would just lie in front of television cameras and journalists with no thought for the consequences?