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burning bush Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:36 AM
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Kerry "Zeros" In On Clark
Edited on Fri Dec-19-03 02:43 AM by burning bush
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/18/mgrind.day.thursday/

Looks like there's some heat between the Kerry and Clark camps, as reported in the above article.

Clark's communications director, Matt Bennett, orchestrat the courier delivery of chicken wings from the Hawk and Dove to the Kerry campaign's Capitol Hill headquarters -- a headline-grabbing stunt devised to highlight Kerry's "ever-changing" position on the war. (Note: Everything that follows actually took place).

"We know John Kerry likes fowl. But we were confused if it was hawk or dove. So we decided to send wings," a feistier Bennett quipped Tuesday.

(So Kerry's camp hit back with the following: )

In a memo featuring a Clark photo that can only be described as disturbing, Kerry aides briefly explained the "rules and formulas for beating Republicans and winning the White House." Actually, what follows sounds less like "rules and formulas," and more like a verbal wet willie. (Remember. The theme is "zero").

• "Help, Mary" -- The number of times Mary Jacoby can bail you out of both of your positions on the war: 0

• The number of Democrats who have skipped the Iowa Caucus and won the Democratic presidential nomination: 0

• The number of Republicans who have skipped the Iowa Caucus and won the Democratic presidential nomination: See above.

• The number of full of years Wesley Clark has been in the Democratic Party: 0 (still 0 if you round up).

• Number of times Chris Lehane has been allowed on the big rides at Disney World: 0

• Number of left wings that arrived yesterday in your chicken order: 0

• Number of winning presidential candidates Madonna has endorsed: 0

• Number of chicken wings left uneaten in the Kerry office: 0

• Move over Clark bars. We hope you enjoy these ZERO bars.

• As you may also know, Democrats have a long and distinguished tradition of feeding the hungry during the holiday season. On behalf of the Democratic Party, please accept these Zero bars as a sign of our hospitality. They seemed fitting given our general principles outlined above.

(Ouch! Kerry's a chicken? Clark rates a Zero? The rivalry seems pointed, but tame enough for now. Wait until after the NH vote, though. If Whomever runs third place there hardens up the rhetoric, we could go from tame to tempest pretty quickly...)
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LiberalBushFan Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:40 AM
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1. sad to hear...
Kerry/Clark or Clark/Kerry would both be incredible teams
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:43 AM
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2. I hope this doesn't keep on going on. Clark and Kerry are my two favs
Stop it you two!
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:44 AM
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3. Sounds like they are having a lot of fun...
n/t....
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:44 AM
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4. At least it's funny
I can take a funny hit. :)

I don't think it will lead to a Dean/Kerry like blowout. Those two would send each other plastic explosives.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:50 AM
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5. Indeed
I was laughing at BOTH sides. ROFL!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:53 AM
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6. funny
"Number of times Chris Lehane has been allowed on the big rides at Disney World: 0 "

since lehane use to be on kerry's team i think they had an idea the chickenwing thing was lehane's doing.

"Number of chicken wings left uneaten in the Kerry office: 0"

this was funny.

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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:15 AM
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7. Ouch
"The number of Republicans who have skipped the Iowa Caucus and won the Democratic presidential nomination: See above."

Uh, that's kind of mean, for a mostly funny bit.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:28 AM
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8. I've been saying this would happen...


"Help, Mary" -- The number of times Mary Jacoby can bail you out of both of your positions on the war: 0 "
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:57 AM
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9. I found the whole exchange hillarious
Thank God Kerry and his people all have a sense of humor. You know, campaigning like adults? Instead of .........

............whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............ they're picking on me after Al told them not too........ whaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 04:52 AM
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10. Funny all the way around
This is how a Democratic primary is supposed to be!
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 04:59 AM
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12. Exactly
I remember someone once posting that Kerry and Clark were good friends. I like that even when their campaigns go after each other, it's done with humor, rather than scorched earth tactics.

Well done on both sides. These subtle irony attacks reminds me of the "Bush will need brothers in 49 other states" and "Many Americans admire Bush for overcoming alcoholism" attacks by Clark. (not exact quotes, from memory)
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 08:15 AM
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13. Irony - Exactly


Reminds me of this expression - having the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a manner that they actually look forward to the trip.

Kerry and Clark together taking on Bush and Cheney would be one amazing team -
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OrAnarch Donating Member (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 04:56 AM
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11. Is that it?
Come on! I want to see some blood! :) j/k
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 08:15 AM
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14. These 2 guys are friends
and this is all in fun.
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 08:17 AM
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15. Translation....
Kerry's going after Clark = Clark's numbers about to skyrocket

The people are tired of your attacks on Dems, John. Go after the real enemy (hint - his hame rhymes with 'push') and maybe you can salvage a state or two in the primaries.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 08:38 AM
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16. Very funny...I'm glad these guys can still relax enough
Edited on Fri Dec-19-03 08:39 AM by Rowdyboy
to have a little good natured fun.
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