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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:17 AM
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Obama Within TEN Points in Pennsylvania!!!!
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in Pennsylvania shows Hillary Clinton leading Barack Obama 49% to 39%. That’s little changed from earlier in the month when Clinton led 51% to 38%.

In the Keystone State, Clinton is now viewed favorably by 68% of Likely Democratic Primary Voters. That’s down from 76% in the previous survey. Obama is viewed favorably by 71%, a figure that is little changed from 71% earlier in the month.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/pennsylvania/pennsylvania_democratic_presidential_primary
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:19 AM
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1. K&R nt
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:19 AM
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2. boosh.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:19 AM
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boosh?
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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8. BOOSH!!
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:58 AM
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52. oh WOW!!!
Made my day.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:19 AM
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3. And he has YET to campaign HARD there!!!
He'll start campaigning hard Friday when he goes on his 6-day bus tour! GOOOOOBAMA!!!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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as long as he comes within 10 points of Clinton in the final results....
it will be time for her to drop out.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:23 AM
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21. what does your spidey sense say? I'm not guessing more than within 12.
I am skittish.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:25 AM
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25. I'm guessing he'll be behind ten points in the final result
Polls will still be volatile and the primary is a month away.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:28 AM
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34. How funny! He's advertising heavily in the TV and radio market
while Hillary is not, and he is at about the same place he was at the first of the month. Hillary is waiting till the last ten days or so to advertise. She's not being funded by Republicans, so she has to be more careful how she spends her money.

"Let it sink"


GO HILLARY GO!!!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:36 AM
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45. thanks for kicking the thread!
:pals:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:56 AM
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49. ..
:rofl:
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:39 PM
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70. !!!og yrallih og
(silly attempt at posting a reply that's about as stimulating as the lil game of twister there)
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:32 AM
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79. He must be spending a mint. He blasted his lame ads every 10 min in TX.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:19 AM
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4. Praise Jesus!
I don't know if Obama will be able to pull it out, but if he does somehow manage to win PA, even by a small margin, then hopefully Hillary Rodham Christ will finally put us all out of our misery and end this fucking thing.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:35 PM
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68. ...
:eyes:
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:40 PM
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71. nobody fucks with the jesus
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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5. 6-day bus tour starts Saturday
And anything less than 10 points is a LOSS for Hillary.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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10. exactly.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:22 AM
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16. I'll second (or third) that! ...n/t
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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12. anything less than 20 points is a loss for her
but she is oblivious to reality at this point
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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6. good news. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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7. Wow, Since the Wright Story broke he has closed the lead 3 points.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:21 AM
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13. But... but... he's imploding!
Rezko! Crazy pastor! Et cetera!
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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9. CONSPIRACY ALERT: K, me thinks Hillary is really hanging in there to catch flak for our guy...
...and to pay of some bills. Look what the stupid media is talking about now; Hillary's useless lie about Bosnia which to me isn't bigger than her lie about supporting NAFTA.

Either way, Obama will bowl over McSame and his "...Obama wants to leave Iraq..." type statements...

McSames brain isn't working right
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:54 AM
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48. Right about McPain's thinking ability
To think that they would nominate him shows how sure they are of stealing the election.

Chimp's brain is not connected and they have protected him the entire time he has been in office.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:20 AM
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11. wow.
when does the next SUSA come out, I wonder?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:22 AM
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15. no clue
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:21 AM
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14. Nice
The previous poll was taken before the Wright controversy, so it's good to see that he gained a couple points instead of losing ground. If he can cut that lead a couple more points he could make a respectable showing.

National numbers don't look so great today though :(
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:22 AM
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17. gallup shows him by 1 point and rasmussen down by 1 point
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:24 AM
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22. Snipergate may change that - on a lighter note,
on The View just now, they were discussing Kevorkian, one host said, "don't let him near McCain."

I nearly peed my pants.

The blonde said, "take that back!"
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:24 AM
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24. The National numbers will continue to bounce up and down
I doubt either Hillary or Obama break 50%...as divisive as the campaigning has become.

Didn't that last Ras poll have Obama down by 28%?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:27 AM
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SUSA had those numbers
but that was a while ago. Lets hope this trend continues. If he gets to 9% like he did in CA, the Superdelegates will abandon her in droves.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:22 AM
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18. I am shocked -- pleased, but shocked.
From the MSM, all you hear is that she's going to whallop his butt in Pa. This is too cool.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:23 AM
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20. all he needs is to come within ten points
and that will be a major Clinton loss because she was supposed to win by 20 points.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:30 AM
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37. Yeah...the same thing about Texas. The county conventions are
next Saturday and the State convention in early June. MAYBE by then Obama will be seen as the winner in Texas! I don't know how I've restrained myself so far...everytime I hear commentators and pundits say she won over-whelmingly in Texas and Ohio I want to :puke:! I can't think of any of her wins being in the whallop category...sure she's won some but, I think when Obama wins, he wins bigger over-all...correct?
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:37 AM
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46. I'll be at the convention saturday
Proudly representing Senator Obama from my precinct in State Senate District 15. Then to State! (Maybe)
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:48 PM
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65. Good for you! Hope you get to the State convention too! n/t
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:23 AM
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19. Hillary has done a poor job at managing expectations for PA
Its normally something shes better at
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:27 AM
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29. Give her time...lol
Once Obama hits PA hard, and the numbers continue to drop and all the polls show him within 10 points or God forbid (for them) a slight lead...PA will become irrelevant. Even Ed Rendell doesn't believe Clinton will win by 28 points.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:24 AM
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23. I'm waiting for Snipergate to take its toll
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:26 AM
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27. we need to send that video to PA news shows
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:27 AM
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28. I'm sure they know about it. Its been all over the national news over the past two days.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:10 PM
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58. Yeah, all we need is more terrorism.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:25 AM
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26. can't stop the love boat.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:27 AM
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30. likely voters
i think that their definition of who is a likely voter is probably off. i think that most of the polls are having trouble getting the tsunami of new voters factored into their methods. so, i suspect that this is significantly underestimating obama's support. as most of the polls have. only a few have predicted the pummelings he has handed out so far.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:27 AM
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31. Obama will win PA when Hillary's peeps realize it's the only way to end it & they vote Obama.
Thankfully, it'll all be over in a few weeks.
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:28 AM
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32. she'll win the state, but with his organization he'll keep it close.
theres just too much time before the vote , hes got too many resources, and hes too good of a candidate.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:28 AM
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33. Send Money for more Ads. If Obama gets within 10 points in PA it is over!!!
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:28 AM
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35. I'm not gonna get too excited about a single poll
The polls are so all over the place that I wouldn't be surprised if he was down by 30 tomorrow.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:29 AM
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36. K&R
:kick:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:31 AM
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38. jeez... another month left to go?
whew... not lookin good for Senator Clinton in PA, eh?
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:32 AM
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39. I like those favorables on both sides.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:32 AM
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40. A few more superdelegates jump Hillary's Runaway Beer Truck...
... and he could actually take Pennsylvania. :-)

And that would be the night this primary season ends. In fact, if she can't win with a double-digit margin, that ought to be her biggest signal to pack it up.
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:32 AM
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41. Yes!!! Considering the experience I'm having here in Pittsburgh and the surrounding suburbs, I'm not
surprised. I, personally, signed up over 100 new voters, the majority for Obama. They were mostly first time voters (I was canvassing campus ares) and former independents. Now, we have to make sure that everyone registered shows up to vote. I hope the polls don't show much more good news for Obama, because I don't want any supporters to become complacent, thinking that he has it in the bag and that their vote isn't needed.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:33 AM
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42. Good news
Her favorables are going down.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:33 AM
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43. nice gaining K&R
:toast:
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:34 AM
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44. One thing we need to keep in mind as we look at these totals
If it's now 49-39%, that means there are 12% of voters who are still undecided. A sizable chunk of these could swing towards Obama.

:woohoo:
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:37 AM
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47. If he can hold a 10 point loss, he'll be in good shape
Pennsylvania is a perfect state for Clinton, so as long as he doesn't lose by more than 20 points, I wouldn't worry about the state. She'll net a maximum of 30 delegates, which while an "ouch" doesn't put a big enough dent in his lead to make much of a difference.

If he can keep it to low double digits, we're sailing to the White House.

David
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:57 AM
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50. kick
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:57 AM
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51. Great news!
K & R :thumbsup:
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:04 AM
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53. Wow, he hasn't even gone on the bus tour and SEIU is just now putting foot soldiers on the ground.
Things aren't looking so bad in Penn. at the moment. Good stuff.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:07 AM
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54. for such a big state they only polled 690 people?
This telephone survey of 690 Likely Democratic Primary Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports March 24, 2008. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 4 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.

thought it would have been at least 1000.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:11 AM
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55. That is above average for Pennsylvania primary polls
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html

There are only two other polls done in that state with a bigger sample size.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:14 AM
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56. exactly
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:39 PM
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69. Statistically, once you reach a certain number of participants,
the amount needed to become more certain increases exponentially.
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miceelf Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:40 AM
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57. Well
it's not a big deal in terms of a change from two weeks ago when her lead was 13%. But IMHO the big news is the drop in her favorables and the fact that Obama's haven't dropped, all of this after the Wright thing broke.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:23 PM
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59. I kinda figured he could close the gap some.
But it's early days yet.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:33 PM
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60. Aren't you the same slinkerwink that had Dean leading in every latest poll?
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 01:34 PM by hell-bent
If I recall back in the 2004 race for the Democratic nomination, you always had the latest poll having Dean leading quite often. Are you sure you are not a jinx to your candidate? Look what happened to Dean in the first primary. You seem to pick the losers....... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:13 PM
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64. No, I pick great presidential candidates
I didn't pick Kerry who lost the Presidency in 2004.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:28 AM
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78. You tell 'em, slink.
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Citizen Kang Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:50 PM
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61. And up 21% in NC
This thing ends May 6.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:59 PM
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62. Hopefully...but if Obama can continue to close the gap in PA
and have a shocking win there...in a state no one thought he would win...it'll be over April 22. but I'm sticking with NC and Indiana on May 6.
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:45 PM
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75. that's if you cherry pick you polls
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_democratic_primary-275.html

if not he's winning NC by 12 and NC is one of the few states he has left to win. May 6 isn't when the convention is being held, so this doesn't end May 6.

Sorry
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:12 PM
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63. I think Philadelphians liked him choosing their city
to deliver his speech on race relations.

On Friday he begins in earnest campaigning there. Check back in a couple of weeks.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:32 PM
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67. actually, he'll be campaigning there from Wednesday for six days
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:28 PM
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66. Good news!
K & R :thumbsup:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:40 PM
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72. He's going to do really well here in Philly.
I'm hoping he does well enough to take the state.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:40 PM
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73. and his bus tour starts Friday!!!!!!!!!
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:43 PM
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74. Sorry buddy
average most polls together and he's down 16

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_democratic_primary-240.html
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:50 AM
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76. booyakasha!!! If Obama is within single digits of HC in PA on the 22nd ...
... he will have effectively put an end to the campaign. Party elders will put HC's campaign down at that point, if they don't do it before PA should she continue with her current behavior.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:52 AM
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77. Don't fall for this Obama supporters; Rasmussen is a Republican pollster
He's probably trying to increase expectations for Obama so it'll look like a Clinton surprise win. Obama is still well behind in PA. The good news is that he doesn't need to do that well to hold onto the lead.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:35 AM
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80. get the Puerto Rico goal posts shined up..
they might be needed from what her surrogates keep saying.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:37 AM
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81. Was this before or after snipergate. The gap will only get closer as Hillary's desperation turns
more voters off.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:30 AM
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82. North Carolina Obama +21
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 05:31 AM by 1776Forever
Race Poll Results Spread

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

Pennsylvania Democratic Primary Rasmussen Clinton 49, Obama 39 Clinton +10
North Carolina Democratic Primary PPP (D) Obama 55, Clinton 34 Obama +21
Democratic Presidential Nomination Gallup Tracking Obama 47, Clinton 45 Obama +2

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:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:
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