It needs to be asked, if Hillary's MLK story is true, why did she become a Goldwater girl?

We all know Goldwater was opposed to the 1964 Voting Rights Bill, and Hillary saw MLK in 1963. If her hearing MLK speak in 1963 was this great life changing experience that she brags about why in the hell did she become a Goldwater girl?

Namely that if her parents were as controlling as one of my ex's then working for the opposition could have gotten them paying her tuition (if they were) revoked very quickly.

I would imagine that if she wanted to continue eating and having a roof over her head
she would have had to go along. . .

Because of her family. I thought I read that a teacher took her to hear MLK and that's when she began to re-examine her views.

Of course this could all be a lie.

. . . what do you think.

She claimed to have a very domineering father. It could have been pressure from the family.

She is despicable.

I never looked at it that way. :)

this factcheck link asks some questions about her mlk assertions as well tho your question is imo a much better / more important question...

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/12/hillary_and_martin_luther_king.html

on this one
saw the factcheck
she was 16 when she saw him
in 1963 16 year old girls pretty much did what the family said
and they were going to front her college cash
so while it shows sloppy research on hillary's team
as a product of those times i have to give her a pass
she wouldnt have had the personal freedom to act on her own politically

...my parents were for Goldwater.

But...there is NO WAY IN HELL they could have forced me to put on some get-up and be a Goldwater Girl!

Get a clue, OK? Just because this was the mid-1960s, that does NOT mean that in the USA we were deep into an era of child slavery, OK?

Detroit, for example, didn't have a "sixties" experience until about 1970. The "Sandra Dee era" lasted a LOT longer here than on the coast. I still don't think Columbus, Ohio, ever experienced "the sixties." (At least that's the impression I get from my ex-wife and her parents.)

Suburban Chicago? The Land of Daley? Dunno. :shrug:

http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/mlking.htm

Important Dates in the Life Of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

The first lunch counter sit-ins took place in Chicago, Illinois at Jack Spratt's Coffee Shop, May 14, 1943.

I'm fairly familiar with the history of race relations at that time, particularly in the Midwest.

edit: whoops again my sub post is in the wrong place sorry...

n/t...

exaggeration and outright fabrication. Seriously. It's funny to joke about this stuff, but it's serious business. We've had 8 years of lying and deception and the last thing we want to do is elect a bullshit artist.

She continued to state this for years, even after it was pointed out that Edmund Hillary was unknown when Hillary was born. He did not scale Everest until Hillary was five.

It has only been in the past year or so that Hillary has retracted this claim.

Outrageous fantasies peddled as biography will not fly in the age of the internets, Hillary.

but hey.. it makes for a good story and every time she brings up MLK, she's sending a message..

"the other guy's black".."be afraid".."he cannot win"..

It's her thing these days..

I abso-fucking-lutely love it!

:rofl:

:)

feel free to use it.. I just made it:)

And...I applaud your right-on talent! :applause:

I copied it and it will be a pic in a screen saver I am making.

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in this OP:

Rev. Jackson said that in 1964, Dr. King campaigned “vigorously for Lyndon Johnson” because the alternative was Barry Goldwater. I wonder where Goldwater girl Hillary was on civil rights at that moment. Speaking of Hillary, Rev. Jackson said her comments about LBJ and MLK were sound bites, impying that the context of reality of events was lost! It took a “combination of litigation led by the Thurgood Marshalls…the demonstration and the legislation, and King had that broad view,” said Rev. Jackson.

she was heard screeching, "He wouldn't be MY Pastor!"

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OK. It was 1963 when she went on a bus with her school to see Martin Luther King in DC. Ah, the accolades and praise seemed endless for Reverend King. Oh my or my, was she touched! Tears fell...gee whiz, it was amazing...

Then, in 1964, she signs up to work on the Barry Goldwater campaign, who specifically stated that he did not like Martin Luther King and did not want to pass the Civil Rights Amendment that Lyndon Johnson did.

You'd think she would have been for Johnson based on her story about being inspired by King, but...um...well, maybe she liked Goldwater because he heard sniper fire when there wasn't any?

Is anything about her past NOT a lie?

When she, as a Rockefeller staffer, was treated rudely by the Nixon supporters, she got angry and switched parties.

I guess I can see the MLK inspiration. MLK calls upon African-Americans to do something about being treated horribly by Conservatives. Hillary decides she should do something in response to her being treated not at all nice by a bunch of Conservatives.

"Damn it! Janet!", said the young blonde woman to her companion at the convention, "I don't have to stand here and be treated this way. It's just like what Martin Luther King said a few years back. I am a person too."

Then the heavens open up, a light shines down....

that doesn't mesh with her MLK story either. Hillary Clinton appears to be a pathological liar.

Like all of this is some great big mysterious conspiracy:

"In 1965, Rodham enrolled in Wellesley College, where she majored in political science.<16> She served as president of the Rockefeller Republican-oriented<17> Wellesley Young Republicans organization during her freshman year<18><19> and with them supported the elections of John Lindsay and Edward Brooke.<20> However, due to her evolving views regarding the American Civil Rights Movement and the Vietnam War, she stepped down from that position;<18> she characterized her own nature as that of "a mind conservative and a heart liberal."<21> Active in campus affairs, she sought to work for change within the system, rather than take then-popular radical actions against it.<22> In her junior year, Rodham was affected by the death of Martin Luther King, Jr.,<8> and became a supporter of the anti-war presidential nomination campaign of Democrat Eugene McCarthy.<23> Rodham organized a two-day student strike and worked with Wellesley's black students for moderate changes, such as recruiting more black students and faculty.<24> In early 1968 she was elected president of the Wellesley College Government Association and served through early 1969;<22><25> she was instrumental in keeping Wellesley from being embroiled by the student disruptions common to other colleges at the time.<22> A number of her fellow students thought at the time she might someday become the first woman President of the United States.<22> She attended the "Wellesley in Washington" summer program at the urging of Professor Alan Schechter, who assigned Rodham to intern at the House Republican Conference so she could better understand her changing political views.<24> Rodham was invited by Representative Charles Goodell, a moderate New York Republican, to help Governor Nelson Rockefeller’s late-entry campaign for the Republican nomination.<24> Rodham attended the 1968 Republican National Convention in Miami, where she decided to leave the Republican Party for good; she was upset over how Richard Nixon's campaign had portrayed Rockefeller and what Rodham perceived as the "veiled" racist messages of the convention.<24>

Rodham returned to Wellesley, and wrote her senior thesis about the tactics of radical community organizer Saul Alinsky under Professor Schechter (which, years later while she was First Lady, was suppressed at White House request and became the subject of speculation).<26> In 1969, Rodham graduated with departmental honors in political science. Stemming from the demands of some students,<27> she became the first student in Wellesley College history to deliver their commencement address.<25> Her speech received a standing ovation lasting seven minutes.<22><28><29> She was featured in an article published in Life magazine, due to the response to a part of her speech that criticized Senator Edward Brooke, who had spoken before her at the commencement;<8> she also appeared on Irv Kupcinet's nationally-syndicated television talk show as well as in Illinois and New England newspapers.<30> That summer, she worked her way across Alaska, washing dishes in Mount McKinley National Park and sliming salmon in a fish processing cannery in Valdez (which fired her and shut down overnight when she complained about unhealthy conditions).<31><32>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

in order to justify disrespecting her and dismissing her supporters later.

would make a terrific name for an internet niche porn site.

Mr. Rodham was quite a task master and a tough man, but Hillary adored him and would do anything to please him. Mr. Rodham was a conservative Republican (McCain would have been too liberal for his taste). Hillary was raised as a Republican and stayed in the party until her first year at Wellesley where she was the president of the Young Republicans. It was in college where her activism was awakened and where she started questioning her upbringing and changed her political views.

One of her biggest influences as a teenager was her youth pastor, Don Jones. Pastor Jones wanted to show his privileged flock how other children lived and would take them to Chicago to the Southside and to see migrant workers' children (Hillary babysat for them for a while). He is also the one who took Hillary and a group of other kids to see Rev. King speak in Chicago in 1962.

That chronology always troubled me, wndycty.

I'm glad you have taken this "fairy tale" and put it under the microscope where it belongs.

As with Hillary's "Bosnia sniper" story and as with Bill Clinton's "fishing story" during the 1968 Chicago Convention, this is another of those stories that doesn't pass the smell test.

You provide the question begged by Hillary's whopping "story" (I'm being kind: "If her hearing MLK speak in 1963 was this great life changing experience that she brags about why in the hell did she become a Goldwater girl?"

K&R for further comments and scrutiny.

Trust a proven liar (with video proving the lies)? That's just senseless.