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BobbyVan Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:28 PM
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Rasmussen Tracking Poll: McCain over Obama 50-41; McCain over Clinton 48-43. WTF!?!?!?!
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:29 PM
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1. Rasmussen has always been Republican-leaning. Most other polls show McCain losing
by a small margin, but losing nonetheless.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:30 PM
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2. Rasmussen is a Repub polling firm--they overpoll GOPers, consistently--
but their Dem polling is usually pretty good.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:30 PM
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3. "WTF?" Dude, it's Rasmussen, that's "WTF."
GOP pollster. Pay no attention.

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BobbyVan Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:34 PM
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10. It nailed the 04 and 06 elections - where did you find that it was a GOP firm - I hope you're right!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:31 PM
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4. Rasmussen SHould Not Be Considered Credible
not after the election of 2000, 2002, and 2004.... or even 2006. It's notoriously slanted for the GOP.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:31 PM
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5. See the RUSH effect
pukes want to run against Clinton. They switch to hillary in polls and primaries.
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BobbyVan Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:43 PM
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12. I don't think they're that strategic...
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:07 PM
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29. 2% are the rest
can't spell strategic!
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:32 PM
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6. Looks Like
HRC's kitchen sink strategy is working its "magic"...
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:33 PM
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7. Obama is fading fast
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:34 PM
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8. Bwhahaha!
Hook. Line. Sinker. You've taken the bait, now run with it!

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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:11 PM
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31. yep
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:34 PM
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9. Rasmussen is always credible when the data supports "our" side, but as to your "WTF"
McCain is unchallenged while our candidates destroy our party's chances. The polls, and all of them showing McCain match-ups, reflect this.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:43 PM
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11. The polls only mean one thing
at the present time. That the election will not be a crushing landslide(popular vote at least) at this point in time. Normally after all the shifts and the real poll happens in November, you get a few to several point spread. Turnout and enthusiasm and a whole list of other things favor us.

How do you get an actual landslide in the popular vote? A strong popular incumbent. An enormously revered public figure. An abysmal collapse of the competitor. A seismic switch to the "other" party caused by a critical issue or issues(war and money and corruption- with perhaps the new addition of climate crisis).

While you think you can score big without having an Eisenhower or Washington by looking at the other areas, the numbers will simply not be as overwhelming as a universal, no strings attached popularity of a "great man". The greatness unfortunately has been too often tied to salvific warlord figure(the times also usually demand a military stability) as the perfect match for Commander in Chief. Arguing for something better than this is still an argument, ergo controversial and not universally rewarded.

So we have to work, as is a beneficial opportunity for true democracy, for every vote and state. That's all it has ever meant and as it should be, facing the anti-democratic forces, unfairness, unhealthy divisions, whatever, head-on with no stint of effort or determination.

It's not how we poll our opinions, but what we do as citizens.
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Ashy Larry Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:43 PM
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13. What did you expect?
This is the result of Hillary joining the McCain campaign. Its 2 on 1 now.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:45 PM
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14. R A S M U S S E N
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:55 PM
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22. Even using your averages, McCain is winning against both.
Here's what Slate said about this "freeper pollster" in 2004:

3. Automation. Before the election, we publicly doubted and privately derided Rasmussen and SurveyUSA, which used recorded voices to read their poll questions. We rolled our eyes when they touted the virtues of uniformity and when they complained that live interviewers "may not know how to read or speak the English language," could "chew gum," or might "just make up the answers to questions." It sounded to us like a rationalization for cutting costs.

Look who's laughing now. Rasmussen and SurveyUSA beat most of their human competitors in the battleground states, often by large margins.

http://www.slate.com/id/2110860/
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:45 PM
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15. Pastorgate has not played out yet, I am still saying early April for that, &Clintons Praise McCain
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:47 PM
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19. He's back up in PA. He's losing to Hillary by only 10 points now.
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 03:12 PM by jenmito
Edited after being corrected.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:00 PM
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25. I though that was in North Carolina and not PA?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:09 PM
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30. Oops. You're right. I edited my post.
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 03:12 PM by jenmito
:)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:46 PM
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16. He was on Faux a couple days ago claiming the Wright thing is really hurting Obama. He's just
keeping the Faux main story alive. I don't believe him.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:46 PM
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17. All polls against the Sainted one are suspect
:rofl:
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:58 PM
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23. LOL
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:46 PM
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18. ONE WORD ---- INDEPENDENTS!!
But this way too premature to be drawing any conclusions. We will see when there is just ONE candidate from each party out there. Patience.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:48 PM
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20. No need to panic - the Dems are too busy in fighting to focus on McBush yet.
Too damn bad.

Shrub3 sits on his ass resting and we sling mud.

I do, however, expet a BIG shift one Obama starts focusing on the GE. :)
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:48 PM
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21. 8 months to go is a long time. Polls can change over night.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:00 PM
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24. This doesn't mean CRAP right now. WAY TOO EARLY. MEANINGLESS !
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:02 PM
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26. its not meaningless until we have a nominee
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:03 PM
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27. This is all you need to know...
2004 polls
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:05 PM
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28. We must destroy them all
We must not allow Rethugs to vote in this next election. The stakes are too high.
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