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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:24 AM
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Gallup: Obama, Clinton tied among Jewish Dems
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 11:04 AM by sabra

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1206446106127&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Even as conservatives continue to paint Barack Obama as being surrounded by anti-Israel advisers, a new poll shows the Illinois senator and Hillary Rodham Clinton in a neck-and-neck battle for Jewish support.

A Gallup Poll tracking views March 1-22 found Jewish Democrats in a statistical dead heat in their support for their party's presidential nominees.

Clinton, a New York senator, led Obama, 48 percent to 43 percent - a differential falling within the 6 percent margin of error for the 368 Jews who were interviewed.

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The fact that Gallup played up the Jewish findings when releasing its surveys this week reflects a common misunderstanding among many political analysts unfamiliar with the Jewish community. Many of these analysts tend to overemphasize the importance of Israel policy.

"Obama's ability to win votes in the US Jewish community has been questioned, given suggestions that he does not support Israel as strongly as other candidates," the release said. "Some of Obama's supporters (including the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, former pastor of Obama's church) and foreign policy advisers are regarded as anti-Israel. Obama has met with Jewish leaders to reassure them of his commitment to Israel."

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:26 AM
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1. Jews know when a Goy is pandering to them for votes and when they are sincere.
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 10:26 AM by Bonobo
Jews have lots of experience with people trying to use them as political poker chips.

Furthermore, Jews (along with Blacks) are among the MOST loyal Democratic voters. Real keepers of Progressive values, most of them.

They will not fall for Hillary's "I am a friend of Jews" rhetoric.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:31 AM
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2. K & R
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:33 AM
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3. Tied among Protestants, too. But the data is not very new, according to the report
They were virtually tied among Protestants in this poll. But among white Protestants, Clinton topped Obama, 56 percent to 34 percent. She commanded a similar lead among white and non-white Catholics.

Obama leads among those with no religious affiliation and those affiliating with non-Christian and non-Jewish religions. Gallup did not break down results according to region, age, income or college education, so it was unclear if the differences among white groups were a function of any of those characteristics.

A Gallup spokesman failed to return multiple calls for comment.

Given the broad timeline when the poll of Jewish voters was conducted, many of the respondents would have registered their views before the controversy over Obama's former pastor reached a peak in mid-March with the broadcast of some of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's more controversial sermons condemning US policy in the Middle East.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:41 AM
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4. I find Rabbi Lerner's editorial (on Tikkun) worth reading.
http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/tik0803/frontpage/phenom

<snip>

The Effectiveness of Not Demonizing

Obama’s appeal starts from his insistence on not demonizing the Other—the very point from which Tikkun started as a project of the Institute for Labor and Mental Health (ILMH) twenty-two years ago. At ILMH we learned—through conducting an intensive study of working class consciousness — that people moving to the Right politically were not primarily motivated by racism, sexism, and hatred, but by the spiritual crisis in their lives that the Left failed to address and the Right spoke to (albeit with distorted solutions).

Obama avoids detailing his political programs precisely because he knows that in so doing he would shift the discourse from how to break through the fear we have of each other and our “certainty” that we are condemned to be alone and alienated, back to the old discourse about point X or point Y in his health care or environmental program, leaving most people behind in despair. Instead, he confronts that despair straight on.

Obama knows that most people want a very different world, but don’t believe it is possible unless someone else makes it happen. He challenges his audience by telling them that there is no one else, that they themselves are the people who must make the world different. To quote Obama from his Super Tuesday speech: “So many of us have been waiting so long for the time when we could finally expect more from our politics, when we could give more of ourselves and feel truly invested in something bigger than a particular candidate or cause. This is it. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.”

In short, Obama is telling his supporters, we are not in need of some magical leader, not even Obama himself. Rather, what we need is the confidence in ourselves to reclaim the public space, to break down our fears about ourselves and each other, and to recognize that it is only when we move beyond our personal lives and work together for our highest vision that anything substantial will change.

Obama has used his campaign to teach us that we actually can emerge from our frightened, withdrawn state, and enter into a public community and affirm each other’s humanity, whether that be through our foreign relations, in our approach to immigration, in our economic lives, or, even, in overcoming the ossified categories of “the Left” and “the Right.” And Obama presents himself with a sense of certainty that helps us overcome our own uncertainty—he is determined to win the election because he thinks we can do this if we are willing to “declare that we are with each other.”

It is precisely this striving to create a transcendent experience of connection without demonizing the Other that has been the important element in the Obama phenomenon. Although the criticisms of his seeming inability to recognize the depth of the struggles that must be waged against the entrenched powers of global capital are well-founded, the Obama phenomenon promises to accumulate the power to challenge the powerful precisely by rejecting the demonizing of the other and following a path of nonviolence, not only in actions but also in words. This kind of nonviolent communication, a powerful extension of Gandhi’s and King’s methodology, may actually, in the long run, prove far more effective than pointing out the cruelty and hypocrisy of those who will not challenge the existing systems of militarism and global economic and political domination.

This is About Us, Not About Obama

Surely, one might object, we are giving far too much credit to Obama himself. After all, many on the Left argue, Obama is just a consummate politician, and not one committed to the programs that we all need. Obama voted against the war in Iraq, but he does not advocate the kind of withdrawal that we at Tikkun believe is the necessary precondition for any real healing in that country, namely a total and complete withdrawal not fudged by turning our military into “advisors” who could then stay in the country until it is stabilized. (Our troops are still in Germany and Japan sixty-three years after the end of the Second World War, so we know how hard it is for any government to acknowledge that “stabilization” has been achieved.) Obama does not support a single payer health care program of the sort that the NSP supports, and his ideas on health care have been less plausible than those of Hillary Clinton. Obama has not supported a serious tax on carbon emissions and his environmental programs have not challenged the global corporate polluters and exploiters of the earth, nor is he likely to support the kinds of radical changes in our Western levels of consumption necessary to save the planet from destruction. Obama has not been on the forefront of struggles against poverty and for the empowerment of workers. And Obama does not yet advocate for a Global Marshall Plan or for the Strategy of Generosity that has been central to this magazine and the NSP’s approach to transforming the world.

All of the above would be relevant points if we were discussing whether to endorse the candidate Barack Obama. But we are not. We have never endorsed a candidate, despite the many who misperceived our enthusiasm for the language being used by the Clintons during the 1992 campaign and for Hillary Clinton’s spontaneous speech when she explicitly endorsed our “politics of meaning” and then invited us to meet with her and strategize together in the White House in 1993. The truth is that even beyond the legal prohibitions that make endorsement impossible for a 501c3, we actually don’t see any political party or candidate who fully articulates a spiritual politics of the sort you’ll find in our Spiritual Covenant with America at www.spiritualprogressives.org. So while some of us may endorse a candidate in 2008 as private citizens, in no way does this extend to an endorsement by the magazine or the Network of Spiritual Progressives. Nor are we surprised to find that members of the NSP differ sharply in who they would endorse.

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:55 AM
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5. kick - for Obama's "Jewish Problem"
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 10:55 AM by sabra
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:02 AM
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6. Graphic and context
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:03 AM
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7. thanks!
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