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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:54 AM
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Huff Po: A New Divinely Ordained Prez: The Hand of God or the Silence of the Press?
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A New Divinely Ordained President: The Hand of God or the Silence of the Press?
Posted March 26, 2008 | 10:39 AM (EST)

Imagine a presidential candidate who believed that God wanted him to run for president because American needed him. Picture a secretive group of Washington insiders who meet quietly to mix religion, class and politics and who believe in an elite group of people divinely ordained to run the country and the world. Now envision this group meeting in sex-segregated cells to discuss how God has chosen them to fulfill their roles in public life. And, at the helm of this group, picture a figure described by an admirer as a "guy in the smoky back room" who "sits in the corner, and you see the cigar, and you see the flame, and you hear his voice -- but you never see his face" whose followers have made "a fetish of being invisible." Now imagine that a few of the members of this group outside of the U.S. have included "General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators."

For those of you who think you're reading about George W. Bush and his administration, you'd be mistaken, though members of the Bush administration do belong to the sect described. The presidential candidate is Hillary Clinton, and the group is "The Foundation" also known as "The Family." Its leader is Doug Coe, a man described by Clinton as "a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God." Yes, it's true, according to Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet who published an article in Mother Jones magazine in September 2007 about Hillary Clinton's deepening ties to the group.


According to Mother Jones, Clinton has been meeting regularly with The Foundation's women's bible study groups since 1993 and moving up through its ranks. Clinton herself has written in Living History about Coe and her first encounter with him at The Foundation's estate and how deeply he impressed her. According to one of Mother Jones' sources, a Coe supporter, Clinton "has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance." The article goes on to report that "These days, Clinton has graduated from the political wives' group into what may be Coe's most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast." But, despite the words she has written about Coe and the reports of her deepening involvement with the Fellowship, Clinton has refused requests by the press for interviews about Coe and her membership in The Fellowship. But clearly, she is not as scrupulous about her association with religious figures in her life as she claimed when attacking Barack Obama for remaining in Pastor Jeremiah Wright's congregation.

Others who have been involved with the group have broken the code of silence. Sharlet himself went to live with one of the cells of The Foundation and describes the inner workings and ideology of the organization in an article that appeared in Harper's magazine in March of 2003. He writes that The Family is "in its own words, an "invisible" association, though its membership has always consisted mostly of public men. Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N. Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as "members," as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.). Regular prayer groups have met in the Pentagon and at the Department of Defense, and the Family has traditionally fostered strong ties with businessmen in the oil and aerospace industries. The Family maintains a closely guarded database of its associates, but it issues no cards, collects no official dues. Members are asked not to speak about the group or its activities." Is this why Hillary Clinton has refused requests for interviews about her association with The Family?

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-gans/a-new-divinely-ordained-p_b_93425.html
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:58 AM
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1. This is far more disturbing than a angry old preacher who's pissed
about racism. This is George W. Bush territory, in terms of believing she's "speshul" and hand-picked by God.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:00 PM
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2. "NEW WORLD ORDER"-Now where did I hear that before:
New World Order? Now where did I hear that before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo




HARPERS: " Jesus Plus Nothing: Undercover among America's Secret Theocrats"


Jesus plus nothing:
Undercover among America's secret theocrats


Originally from Harpers Magazine, March 2003, by Jeffrey Sharlet, discusses 'the family' in Washington D.C.

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By the end of the war, nearly a third of U.S. senators attended one of his weekly prayer meetings.

In 1944, Vereide had foreseen what he called “the new world order.” “Upon the termination of the war there will be many men available to carry on,” Vereide wrote in a letter to his wife. “Now the ground-work must be laid and our leadership brought to face God in humility, prayer and obedience.” He began organizing prayer meetings for delegates to the United Nations, at which he would instruct them in God's plan for rebuilding from the wreckage of the war. Donald Stone, a high-ranking administrator of the Marshall Plan, joined the directorship of Vereide's organization. In an undated letter, he wrote Vereide that he would “soon begin a tour around the world for the , combining with this a spiritual mission.” In 1946, Vereide, too, toured the world, traveling with letters of introduction from a half dozen senators and representatives, and from Paul G. Hoffman, the director of the Marshall Plan. He traveled also with a mandate from General John Hildring, assistant secretary of state, to oversee the creation of a list of good Germans of “the predictable type” (many of whom, Vereide believed, were being held for having “the faintest connection” with the Nazi regime), who could be released from prison “to be used, according to their ability in the tremendous task of reconstruction.” Vereide met with Jewish survivors and listened to their stories, but he nevertheless considered ex-Nazis well suited for the demands of “strong” government, so long as they were willing to worship Christ as they had Hitler.

In 1955, Senator Frank Carlson, a close adviser to Eisenhower and an even closer associate of Vereide's, convened a meeting at which he declared the Family's mission to be a “worldwide spiritual offensive,” in which common cause would be made with anyone opposed to the Soviet Union. That same year, the Family financed an anti-Communist propaganda film, Militant Liberty, for use by the Defense Department in influencing opinion abroad. By the Kennedy era, the spiritual offensive had fronts on every continent but Antarctica (which Family missionaries would not visit until the 1980s). In 1961, Emperor Haile Selassie of Ethiopia deeded the Family a prime parcel in downtown Addis Ababa to serve as an African headquarters, and by then the Family also had powerful friends in South Africa, Nigeria, and Kenya. Back home, Senator Strom Thurmond prepared several reports for Vereide concerning the Senate's deliberations. Former president Eisenhower, Doug Coe would later claim at a private meeting of politicians, once pledged secret operatives to aid the Family's operations. Even in Franco's Spain, Vereide once boasted at a prayer breakfast in 1965, “there are secret cells such as the American Embassy the Standard Oil office to move practically anywhere.”

By the late sixties, Vereide's speeches to local prayer breakfast groups had become minor news events, and Family members' travels on behalf of Christ had attracted growing press attention. Vereide began to worry that the movement he had spent his life building might become just another political party. In 1966, a few years before he was “promoted” to heaven at age eighty-four, Vereide wrote a letter declaring it time to “submerge the institutional image of .” No longer would the Family recruit its powerful members in public, nor recruit so many. “There has always been one man,” wrote Vereide, “or a small core who have caught the vision for their country and become aware of what a 'leadership led by God' could mean spiritually to the nation and to the world. . . . It is these men, banded together, who can accomplish the vision God gave me years ago.”

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http://harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:05 PM
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4. You tube has Bill Clinton giving speeches promoting the new world order.
These Clintons are into some scary, disturbing shit.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:06 PM
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6. the link between the Clintons & GOP is JACKSON STEPHENS-financier of Bush/Clinton/BCCI and
others.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:22 PM
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15. The Bushs and Clintons clearly share a larger common agenda.
It would be nice if the American people would wise up to it, before its too late.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:27 PM
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16. A lot of folks are too busy just trying to make ends meet. What is scary is the devotees who are
willing to overlook the multitude of facts just to keep from admitting they were wrong. Sounds vaguely familiar.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:40 PM
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19. Youre correct. And the sad thing is....
Thats what the Clintons are counting on. People are just too busy trying to stay alive that they dont have the time to figure out whats really going on. And the media, never really doing its job, isn't going to break it down for them.

Meanwhile, the devotees are too busy getting wrapped up in the fact that Hillary has a vagina, and are willing to write every criticism off as media-created anti-Clinton talking points. The truth really doesnt seem to matter.

Keep people poor, dumbed-down, or distracted and they're easily controlled.

This stuff is *exactly* what I'm against.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:10 PM
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12. Yes you are correct here is one of them:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:07 PM
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8. I LOVE this article ! It should be REQUIRED READING !
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:08 PM
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9. Another, more hidden connection between the Clintons and the Bushies?
Scary stuff.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:02 PM
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3. Many have been speaking of this disturbing association for a long time... this needs to be heard!
K&R
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:06 PM
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5. Its about freaking time. I spent several hours reading and researching over the
weekend about The Family and Doug Coe and this is some scary stuff..
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:09 PM
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11. Here's a previous thread on it >>>
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 12:10 PM by Stephanie
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:12 PM
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13. Thanks Stephanie, that's a definitely must see!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:07 PM
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7. Word is getting out! Here's audio of Coe >>>
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:09 PM
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10. That's a listing of some of the worst wingnuts in Washington.
She needs to discuss her need to pray with James Inhofe.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:19 PM
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14. This is really, really shocking and disturbing to me. K&R
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 12:44 PM by Pooka Fey
Why do I have to choose between a really openly religious Obama and now that's it's in the open, a really secretly religious Hillary? Out of this bunch, McCain seems the least religiously obsessed - and he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years if necessary - so that's not a better choice. Ugh. I miss Kucinich.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:30 PM
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17. Zulchzulu has an excellent thread on this:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:30 PM
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18. This organization gives me the creeps.
Bigtime.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:37 PM
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20. Posting to find this later.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:43 PM
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21. K&R
Required reading for all! I'm so glad word is getting out, especially that The Fellowship/Foundation/Family, or whatever they call themselves these days was discussed on MSNBC! :woohoo:
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:45 PM
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22. MSNBC had a small segment on this.
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