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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:50 PM
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I just realized, once again why I HATE her campaign.
it's her staffers.

Mark Penn - enough has been said about him. Or not. I suspect that the whole truth is even worse.
Howard Wolfson - may his magic sweater catch a snag.
Patti Solis-Doyle - ok, she is gone, but her style is not.



Jamie Reuben. Just saw him on MSNBC. What a lying, obnoxious jerk. The message that he pushed is revolting, as is he. I cannot imagine how sending such a vile person out in public, lying, dissembling, spinning and lying some more can help any campaign. It only makes her look even more dirty and spin-based.

Some here have said that all politics is local and all politics is dirty. I hated (between wry amusement) the kind of crap that Rove consistently pulled. You had to admire the chutzpah and deceit implicit in every move he planned. A lack of shame is apparently a very necessary thing.

What is unforgivable is that the Clinton Campaign has purchased or leased the Rove Playbook. Their use of identical tactics is simply disgusting.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:52 PM
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1. Don't forget pal, James Carville - the ultimate in sleeze with his attack on BR.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:53 PM
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2. Lanny Davis
is catching up.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:54 PM
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3. TRUE! I can't even watch Lanny anymore, the ick factor is so bad!
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:05 PM
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10. o hell yah, what a sleazeball!
can't stand watching his rodent mouth twitch.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:57 PM
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4. I saw the Jamie Rubin segment...
and he used up a lot of time pretty much saying, "It's Obama's fault that Hillary completely made up a story about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia." So, get your head around the idea that Obama is to blame for everything that has gone wrong for Hillary. It couldn't possibly be Penn, Wolfson, Ickes, Carville or Hillary herself. No freakin' way!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:57 PM
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5. I just watched that Jamie Reuben interview - what a fool.
Do they honestly think we're that stupid? Andrea Mitchell stayed right on him though. Since she was on the Bosnia trip, I'm sure it bothered her more than anyone. If Hillary is going to make up stories, she needs to do it when the press isn't around.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:59 PM
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6. Yeah, Andrea did stay on him. There was no way he was making a good case so I
wonder if they're trying the "intimidate the media" crap again since it worked the last time.
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:10 PM
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12. it bothered her when he became condescending and almost
called her sexist against hillary. "well andrea, i would think as a woman........."
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:11 PM
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14. I was surprised how in control, direct, and unwavering she was
even after her hubbie is being bribed with a special assignment by Hillary.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:59 PM
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7. They're all total sleazebuckets
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:04 PM
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9. I'd rec yours, but the time is up. NIce job.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:11 PM
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13. Thanks.
:)
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:01 PM
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8. I saw that segment on MSNBC - it was quite a spin job he had going. On top of that, he kept
interrupting his host and Mack Trucking over anything she had to say; he didn't want to really talk about his candidates fast & loose affiliation with the truth. It really was a disgusting performance.

:thumbsdown:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:06 PM
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11. I met Jamie Rubin in NH in 2003 while camp. for Clark, he was very charming
But sorry to say, Jamie, I guess I will have to burn our pictures now. You have really disappointed me. :eyes:
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:12 PM
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15. i think she is now running a sleazier campaign against obama
than bush ran against mccain in 2000
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:35 PM
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16. Looks like the real news has finally made it out
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:39 PM
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17. you know what really pissed me off is how she is laughing at that
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:57 PM
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18. They stole the rove playbook like they
are trying to steal the nomination. I'm wondering how Chistianne Amapour is reacting to her husband's, jamie rubin, conversion to geraldine ferraroism?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:59 PM
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19. damn. I forgot that she married him.
and here I had dreams of her and me. . . .
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 02:00 PM
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20. Didn't jamie rubin use to be
admirable until he stated surrogatin' for the shill?
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