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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:05 PM
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Clinton tactics turn off some superdelegates - she needs to "chill"
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 05:07 PM by jefferson_dem
Clinton tactics turn off some superdelegates
Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:55 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton

From NBC/NJ's Matthew E. Berger
At a time when Sen. Hillary Clinton is increasingly relying on superdelegates to vault her to the Democratic Party's nomination, a handful of undecided and pledged superdelegates are coming forward to say her campaign's tactics in recent weeks are doing more harm than good.

The Democratic Party insiders say they believe Clinton's direct attacks against Sen. Barack Obama in recent days are hurting the party and its chances in November, and also say it is showing a calculated, desperate-to-win side of Clinton that they dislike.

"In looking at the manner in which the candidates are campaigning, I think it would be best they focused their attention on the presumptive nominee and showed our party which one is better in campaigning against McCain," said Garry Shay, a California superdelegate, who announced his support for Clinton.

Unlike some in the party, these superdelegates said they do not believe Clinton should drop out of the race. They said they are committed to the democratic process, and want to allow the states still remaining to cast their ballots. But they acknowledged Obama is the likely nominee and suggested the personal attacks were only hurting the party and its viability.

The Clinton campaign has been actively wooing these delegates, believing a plurality represents the strongest, and increasingly the only, way for her to win the nomination. But one undeclared delegate, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the recent tactics are turning her and other superdelegates off.

"I don't think anybody's saying 'step aside,' but 'stop with the garbage' is what people want to say," the delegate said. "Just chill a little bit."

As activists committed to the party, they said, they have been impressed by Obama's ability to bring new Democrats into the fold, and they worry that Clinton is threatening that.

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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/26/820834.aspx
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:07 PM
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1. Clinton tactics also turn off some voters. n/t
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:09 PM
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2. She won't "just chill a little bit" that's not her MO
she goes for the jugular in everything she does, she's proven that she'll lie and cheat in any way possible to get there. The SD's are surely aware of this by now.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:11 PM
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3. Her goal isn't to win super delegates
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 05:15 PM by Cali_Democrat
She knows the negative attacks are turning them off. She also knows that the math is impossible to overcome and the supers won't overturn the will of the people. Her goal is to destroy Obama so he loses the General and she can run again in 2012
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:20 PM
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4. I don't believe that..
why would her and Bill be actively seeking their votes then?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:22 PM
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6. Mind-Read Much? n/t
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:20 PM
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5. Oh, MSNBC as your source, they're so unbiased in
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 05:20 PM by yadayadayada
their reporting. :sarcasm:
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:27 PM
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7. I knew this would backfire on her,
Kudos to the SD's for speaking out!
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:29 PM
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8. Burn those bridges, Hillary! just dont be surprised when you try to defend your Senate seat
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:30 PM
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9. Chill? I encourage her to keep at it. She's just helping Obama
:rofl:
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:43 PM
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14. My thoughts exactly. Plus she is proving he can withstand the BS the repubs will throw in GE
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:35 PM
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10. Note to Clinton supporters: No one is being fooled by your tactics.
Notice how there has never been a story about Obama turning off superdelegates but we keep getting stories on how they are concerned with Hillary.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:37 PM
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11. No one is fooled. You can hear all the favors the Clintons are calling in
unless you're deaf.

I can also hear arms being twisted and access being threatened.

This from Hillary, champion of the common voter!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:40 PM
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12. they are presuming that anyone will even speak to them now let
alone in 2012. I will never vote for her if she does this shit, nom or not, in 2012.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:44 PM
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15. I'm sorry the Clintons were compelled to do this to themselves.
It's a shame we couldn't end the relationship on an up note.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:41 PM
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13. These SDs need to stop sitting on the sidelines and start endorsing.
Seriously.

The 2 candidates have been out there for some time now with enough speeches and debates and election results. All but 10 have voted now. The math is before their eyes.

Just do it.

I think alot of the problem with these folks is that no one EVER expected this election to go this way. At all. It's like they are in a state of shock. Obama came completely out of left field and they haven't recovered yet. They are in "old politics" mode and change is slow with them. Well it's time that they smack themselves awake and get their asses in gear.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:55 PM
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16. I think you are right...
the media as well. They're trying to put the brakes on a run-away-train.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:59 PM
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17. hilary's name has turned into Garbage!
Like she's gonna stop until she's given enough rope.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:33 PM
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18. Why would you turn off the superdelegates when you need their vote?
Fucking stupid!
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:12 PM
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19. kick
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