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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 09:30 PM
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Kerry says he will give Kucinich "a place to be"
Edited on Mon May-17-04 09:30 PM by JI7
i'm guessing he means a role at the convention and/or during the campaign. but i'm glad he is acknowledging kucinich and i was glad to hear kucinich say that he has talked with kerry.

<"I have great respect for Dick Gephardt," Mr. Kerry responded when asked about his effusive praise the day before for Mr. Gephardt, another former primary opponent. "I'm also effusive about Wes Clark and Carole Moseley Braun and Howard Dean and — who else would you like me to run through?"

He also said, speaking of Representative Dennis I. Kucinich of Ohio, who has refused to curtail his own campaigning despite Mr. Kerry's lock on the nomination, "We'll give him a place to be, I assure you.">


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/17/politics/trail/18TRAIL-KERRY.html?ex=1085457600&en=fb52f568f3f05ea0&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 09:32 PM
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1. We're dealing with DLC here. Kucinich/Dean/Braun's roles will be minimal
Edited on Mon May-17-04 09:33 PM by Rationality
Clark, Edwards and Gephardt, however, may become something if Kerry gets elected. Even then, I doubt any of them will be VP.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 10:25 PM
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7. BINGO
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 02:29 PM
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12. Still making predictions?
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 11:32 PM
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11. They will just use them to get the votes of their supporters
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 09:32 PM
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2. Huh?
A place to be? What about Dennis's issues? Do they get a place to be, too?

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 09:34 PM
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3. isn't it the same thing ?
by giving kucinich a "place to be" it gives his issues "a place to be".
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Terry_M Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 09:36 PM
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4. Not Really
He could be placed in a position where he will pretty much be out of the way...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 09:47 PM
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5. you think kucinich will allow anyone to do that ?
if that was the case i really don't think kucinich would put up with it.
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CharlesGroce Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 10:06 PM
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6. Dennis should refuse.
Getting a place to be in the John Kerry government doesn't guarantee a thing for DK's stances on the issues, and should he desire to further represent the actual American people, as he has thus far, he should reject any offer to be included in the 'potential' Kerry government, unless John Kerry comes around and starts making sense on the issues, such as the war. This 'everyone gets a career out of this' mentality stinks of corporate American strategy.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 11:05 PM
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8. I'm proud of John Kerry's gracious comments and..
inclusiveness!
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 11:18 PM
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9. Nonsense.
If DK represents the "actual American people" I would think more of them would have voted for him.

The best way DK can make himself COMPLETELY irrelevant is to blow Kerry off.

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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 11:29 PM
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10. Because the media lied and told us Dean was Kucinich
A progressive message works, but the corporate media doesn't want you to hear it from a real progressive who threatens their interests.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 02:50 PM
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13. You listened to the media?
Not...too...bright
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:34 PM
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14. No, I didn't...
that's why I voted Kucinich
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:50 PM
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18. Not necessarily
Remember, the centrist Clinton, made a rather left wing person. Robert Reich, the Secretary of Labor, and Lani Guenier for assistant Attorney General.

There is nothing in Kerry's record that would indicate that he would not offer a cabinet level position to someone he may have political differences with.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 03:50 PM
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19. Not necessarily
Remember, the centrist Clinton, made a rather left wing person. Robert Reich, the Secretary of Labor, and Lani Guenier for assistant Attorney General.

There is nothing in Kerry's record that would indicate that he would not offer a cabinet level position to someone he may have political differences with.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:17 PM
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22. Reich ain't "left wing"
Reich is a fairly conservative/moderate economist, who pretty much buys into the Monitorist boondoggle which has created the greatest gap in wealth since the middle ages. As a "left winger" myself, I'll tell you that Reich is not one. Sure, he may be compared to Clinton, but that's really not saying a whole lot.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 08:27 AM
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25. Reich's ideas for the department of labor
Edited on Thu May-20-04 08:32 AM by Nicholas_J
Were so left wing that Clinton had to get rid of him...

His first stated goal was was that the department wasno longer merely going to interpret labor legislation, but to act as a representative of workers "AGAINST" corporate interests which is fairly radcal for the U.S., next, he was the first Secretary of Labor to seriously bring up the idea of a "LIVING WAGE" the first to carefully calculate what the how far behind inflation the minimum wage was.

Literally every idea about the current crappy state of employment in the United States was brought forth by REich. His nomination was opposed by many because of his stated economic left radicalism, though finally he was approved without Republican opposition.

Another reason for Reich's departure was Reich's own dissapointment with Clintons move to the center. Reich was clearly anti-business, and pro-employee, nad very pro government providing lots of job training to keep American workers skill upgraded to prevent job loss due to outsourcing. Not now, but 10 years ago when no one was thinking about it.

It was stated of Reich, when people were thinking of running him for Governor of Massachussetts:

What Reich should do is run as an independent. No, he doesn’t exactly fit the model of a successful independent candidate. Winners such as Maine governor Angus King and Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura have generally done it by eschewing political ideology in favor of populist, anti-party appeal. Since Reich, a co-founder of the American Prospect magazine, would likely stand well to the left of both Governor Swift and whoever the Democrats ultimately choose, that route wouldn’t be available to him.

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/daily/documents/02045923.htm

The conservative right win
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 09:25 PM
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23. I disagree- I wish Kerry would let DK run w/ this "Dept. of Peace" idea...
We are going to need to mend a LOT of fences after the Bush Gang leaves office...

DK's idea may be just what we need, and I am glad Kerry is considering a role for Dennis...
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salonghorn70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:50 PM
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15. Everyone Needs
A Place To Be. Sounds almost like the 60s.:)
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:16 PM
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16. So did most of the Kucinich campaign
It was a lot of fun. Lots of radicals and hippies.
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salonghorn70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:32 PM
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20. Somehow The Fun Went Away
As the deaths of GIs escalated in Nam. But I understand where you are coming from. I spent 1966-1970 in Austin, Texas at UT (Hook 'EM Horns), A great place to have been in the 60s.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:19 PM
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17. Awfully vague... n/t
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 08:44 PM
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21. How condescending
Er, I mean magnanimous. (cough, cough) Flame proof suit on.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 01:30 AM
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24. Kucinich does not need a place to be.He has one.
He often rallies the biggest block of votes in the House.A majority of House Democrats voted against Bush's war and against Nafta.. Those are the forces that need's Kucinich's voice..
Kucinich can't oppose any Kerry bad trade deals from within.
Dennis..Stay where you are at. Besides, unlike the likes of Colin Powell..Kucinich would take it on himself to resign rather than accomodate deals that sell out the American people..
why put himself in that position.. maybe Kerry thinks rallying DK will persuade DK's followers.. he wants our $'s, he is going to have to say the right things about this foolish war,trade, and health care..
DK can't even persuade his followers to take that leap..Kerry has to deserve it...
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