What is your level of enthusiasm for Sen. Kerry?

I'd like to gauge what the intensity of the support for Sen. Kerry is here on DU, so please select a number between 1-10, with 1 being 'Not enthusiastic at all' and 10 being 'Extremely enthusiastic'.

Thanks! :)

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Can you please not be so narrow minded?

The only man to beat bush.... someone has you saying.. "Bah Ram U"

this person meant that Kerry is the only person running for president at this point in time who can beat bush. That is not "narrow minded." It is, rather, the reality that we are dealing with today.

If you think Nader can, you are smoking some bad stuff.

call me narrow minded, but 1+1=2

If you think someone else has a better chance, I'll be happy to wager.

What are you? Nuts??????

...not.

since he is the Democrat who is going to run against Bush.

I am a proud John Kerry supporter.

I would stay home in November. Kerry is about as exciting as watching bread rise.

It seem to me your listening to the RNC and the Media what do you want from him if it weren't for the media he be leading by 20% points

S/He is REPEATING the RNC, word for word

Does everyone who finds Kerry boring somehow become an RNC convert?

I'll tell you, I used to be of the opinion that if Kerry became the Dem. nominee I'd have to vote for Nader to remain true to my ideology. Once that became a reality (Kerry becoming the apparent Dem. nominee) I slowly started to come around and realize that ideals are messy things. In other words, 'sticking to my ideals' in some cases (like this one) might mean voting for the person who has a chance of beating Bush instead of voting for the candidate whose ideas are most like mine. So I'll be voting for Kerry, no question. but that doesn't mean he enthuses me! That doesn't mean I don't think he needs to get more passionate, more lively. I think he can be really boring at times. And god yes, I'd rather listen to him being boring and smart than Dubya being arresting and moronic but STILL...I want him to pep it up. Not because I am spouting the RNC (wtf?) but because I want him to be able to attract people who may have never been political before, and who currently find him as boring as I do.

Stop this ridiculous nonsense that implies that anyone being less than happy with Kerry somehow equates to their towing the republican line.

I liked Kerry in 2000 (wish he would have been Gore's VP), then liked him less during the 2004 campaign. I didn't vote Kerry in my primary, and still wish that Dean had won the nomination.

But I WILL vote Kerry in 2004, without a second thought, because I want to get rid of Bush. PERIOD. I feel no great thrill with Kerry. I do feel a great thrill out of kicking Bush's ass back to Crawford

If you, or anyone else, has a problem with this, or wants to claim that anyone with the same motivations is somehow a GOP puppet, then go right ahead, but please stop and kiss my ass on the way by, thank you.

I need him to be competent, and actually have a shot at making this country great again.

Save our country? Not unless he's going to be beholden to some other group than the one he currently is.

Saving our country is not John Kerry's forte, nor should it be.

That's up to US.

The sooner you realize no presidential candidate is going to do stuff for you , that you have to get off your ass and do it yourselves, the sooner we can take our country BACK.

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Hey, d I spell spectator right? :P

When he announces Clark, I am ready to go to 10

...and unfortunately appears to campaign like him, too. Just being "not Bush" does NOT guarantee victory-- at best, it guarantees 45% of the vote.

If Kerry wants to win, he needs to be different than Bush. If he can't make the case why he's different enough, he's stuck with 45%-- which probably won't win it this year.

so yes, I'm extremely enthusiastic.

Kucinich! Kucinich! Kucinich!

JUST DO IT!

Mr Winkle

What a friggin letdown!

I'm enthusiastic about Kerry only as far as he's able to defeat Bush. He seems like a good man but he doesn't strike me as having the fire and passion that great politicians have. But I'll happily cast my vote for him in November.

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I just can't get enthused about Kerry. I'll vote for him though because I DETEST, HATE, DESPISE, REGARD WITH UTTER DISDAIN the chimp. If Wes Clark is VP.....Kerry will have my full devoted self. I'll work my ass off for them, but only if Wes is VP. I do like how he stands up to the repukes though. He doesn't let them get away with any of their crap, lies and distortions. I think he has them off their game by doing so. They're use to Dems who just take take the shit that they dish out. I'm happy to see that he doesn't. It's a plus in my book.

The objective is still the same, and the need for your help just as great, regardless of who he picks for VP, right?

Looks like a substantial majority are on one polar direction or another. Personally, I fall more in the middle.

Rather than just voting for the option that best describes their level of enthusiasm. I could make some sort of analogy here, but the polarized results are funny enough in themselves. :D

Note: Would Lieberman be a zero? Zell Miller negative regions? For the tens, what would the candidate you supported in the primary get? A more emphatic ten? Come ON DU, it's just a poll, not a chance to make a point by voting for the extreme. :(

Have to wait until he's in office to see for sure, but his record is fairly good. I was a Kucinich caucus boy, so the platform isn't the best match for me.

Lieberman and Kerry are nearly ideological clones. Unlike Kerry, Lieberman has never said anything as stupid as what Kerry said about appointing prolife judges or being a Nixonian "strict constructionist."

I will also point out that Lieberman has always been clear and consistent in his positions, unlike Kerry.

Particularly those who backed Biden/Lugar. Took all negotiation off the table for some cheesy photo ops and a veneer of bipartisanship for the coming campaign. That you would equate this act with Kerry's similarly political 'yes' vote shows the way your emotional response to Kerry often distorts the objective record of events. Equating Lieberman and Kerry on Iraq is a fallacy, whatever you think about either man.

Lieberman was consistent with his prowar views. Lieberman wanted Saddam toppled, whether or not he had WMDs.

Gephardt on the other hand, did as you said: betray other Democrats. Remember what Gep did when Kerry picks him as his running mate!

that's big among parts of the liberal base.

Gep does have an excellent record of supporting labor issues. Gep understands the issues that affect the average worker more than most people in Congress.

There seems to be an attitude among opponents of free trade that it is somehow immoral for jobs to go overseas. I don't understand it. Aren't people in India entitled to have jobs too?

because they are used as cheap labor. and it's this cheap labor and other things such as trashing the environment which is the problem. but kerry has a good record on the environment and with labor (even with his support of trade). he understands keeping the environment clean IS a way to create jobs. he knows it's not one or the other as right wingers often lie about. just look at bush, he is very anti environment yet it has done nothing to help create jobs andjust made things worse and made people's health worse. kerry understands how it all ties in.

Many of the jobs that went to Mexico under NAFTA have now left Mexico for other countries were workers are more easily exploited.

The "free trade" that the political elites defend in this country is nothing more than global slavery that depends on workers that are not allowed to organized, and have no protection of any kind either in terms of job safety or the environment. Such a system depends on undemocratic regimes backed by the US military.

The definition of slavery is forced labor... hence, involuntary labor. Did someone put a gun to their heads and force them to work? No.

By the way, what were these people in India and China doing before they were making 25 cents an hour? Probably starving, and certainly unemployed. While most of them probably don't like their jobs, lots of them are probably glad that they have them.

Unless you are personally willing to employ every single one of these people who would lose their jobs under your protectionist plans, I don't think it would be right.

It's easy for you to sit here in America and talk about how bad the conditions are in factories in China and India, but look at your clothes. How about the toys you played with as a kid or the toys that your kids play with? Probably made in China.

Saying that you would like to buy American may make you feel great, but, in reality, most people just want the lowest price.

Dean people would see it as a quid-pro-quo for Iowa, anti-war folks would think of the Rose Garden, everbody else would be bored to tears.

But I'd wager people would be even less pleased with a Lieberman vice presidency. Kerry has been consistent on Iraq in his statements. The argument can be made, though, that his statements do not match with what he voted for.

the ones kerry hopes to get support with gep as vp are anti nafta but they see kerry as free trade liberal northeasterner who doesn't get them. i do think if they met him they would like him, but with a national campaign he can't meet everyone. so someone like gephardt on the ticket would make them more comfortable or happy voting for the ticket. i'm sure they are doing internal polls to see how things are.

Yeah, Gephardt was right on Nafta, but he was wrong on Iraq, and a backstabber in Iowa. Not to mention a three time loser in Presidential elections. He's not a plus for Kerry's ticket.

Kucinich is anti Nafta, consistent in his progressive views, and could very well keep a lot of votes that Kerry & the DLC have gone out of their way to alienate. And Ohio IS a swing state, right?

and nader himself said if roe vs wade was overturned it would be ok since states would still have the rights to keep abortion legal.

and kerry talked in a way to appeal to those who are not prochoice yet may still be thinking of voting for him such as catholics who support government welfare programs yet on issues like abortion and gay rights they oppose it. he said specifically he wont do anything which would overturn roe vs wade. he has a perfect record on abortion rights. but those who are complaining are mostly those who already don't support him so i think he is making the right moves. he can try to get the support of those who actually may consider voting for him though not agree with him on many things rather than those who complain about every single thing he does.

Hard for Kerry to inspire what he himself doesn't have.

Doesn't make him a bad man, but does make him a dull campaigner.

i know many supported other candidates and i don't expect them to feel the same way. but i don't like it when they dismiss him as not being anything and ignore the support he did have in the primary. the people who stuck by him and worked hard for him through the worst times of the campaign.

:)

So far an equal number of people are very enthusiastic or very unenthusiastic about Kerry--34%. While the overall enthusiastic/unenthusiastic scale is pretty even. I think this gives a pretty good indication that John Kerry has yet to ignite alot of passion among activist democrats.

Even if Kerry was someone's 3rd choice or last choice or whatever, he is the only one standing between Dumbya and 4 more years.

He's not perfect, but he's doing pretty damned good. :)

Because all our lives depend on it.

And I challenge him to do something to crank it up to eleven.

He wasn't my first choice, but I will support him, work for him and donate to his campaign.

a 1 or a 2 then an 8 vote good and my enthusiasm for Kerry is growing by the day. I'm very content with Kerry as our DEM presidential candidate.

I have attended the Kerry rallies here in St Louis and I'm going to attend my first meet up tomorrow evening. I'm also considering hosting a meet up contribution party for Kerry.

n/t

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=120x17966

because otherwise I would have missed this thread and not been able to get my "NOT ENTHUSIASTIC AT ALL" vote in ;)

our country would look like with four more years of bush,


i become EXCEEDINGLY enthusiastic about kerry!

Whatever the reason, it makes me work harder for Kerry and all Dems.
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Bush is a disaster but Kerry is unpalatable and looks like a cadavear that mosied on out from the lab.

Always a Kerry Dem!!!

http://www.greensforkerry.com/


Organization Ratings Overview: The Kerry Record

League of Conservation Voters Lifetime Rating: 96%

AFL-CIO Lifetime Rating: 90%

Americans for Democratic Action Lifetime Rating (liberal rating): 92%

2001-2003 Leadership Conference on Civil Rights: 100%

2000-2003 National Education Association: 100%

1995-2001 Planned Parenthood: 100%

2001-2003 National Abortion Rights Action League: 100%

2001-2002 National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare: 100%

Awesome!

Alright, this is the first time I can remember that a candidate I supported in the primaries has actually won the nomination. (Well to be perfectly accurate, I supported two candidates in the primaries, but since my other guy, Howard Dean, is enthusiastically backing Kerry, I have no problem doing the same.)

Kerry's got a great record on environmental issues. He's an acknowledged expert on terrorism and I'm impressed with his ability to build coalitions. Hell, even Nader was praising him.

Do I have some complaints, sure, but all said and done, he's the man.

I thought I already voted but apparently it didn't register.

IN any case, I voted 8. Early on, as someone from the deep south, I knew little about him and wanted a southern candidate, but now that I am more informed about him, I am extremely impressed and excited.

He's a perfectly acceptable, garden variety Democrat. He'll stem the decline of the middle class by halting the abrogation of the tax burden by the wealthy, he'll restore our image in the international community, and as others have mentioned, we just won't have to look at that beady-little-eyed criminal any more.

It will be nice to be proud of the country again. He's fine.

in the people who are appalled by him.

(I voted a "7")

Hopefully I'll become a 9/10 eventually. But, I'll settle for an 8 now. ;)

i don't understand the necessity of comments equating kerry with a cadavre, or lurch. i know a lot of people supported, and continue to support other candidates, but the reality is THEY LOST. and as far as i know, they've all thrown their support to the presumptive nominee (sans kucinich). if there's one thing i've observed since finding DU is that any thread involving kerry, the same 3 or 4 posters show up to shit on it. how sad :eyes: