Is Obama girl = Exploitative?

I was talking today with someone about the girl with big breasts dancing for Obama, why did'nt he or his wife have her stop this clear sexual exploitation? Would it have had the same impact if her clothes were on? Why did they allow this to be pushed? I see it as clear sexsism imo.

And you know what that means.

Seriously, I have wondered that same thing about the "Obama Girl." And I wonder what Michelle Obama thinks about her.

Bake

She thought it was tacky. It has nothing to do with the Obama campaign. It's just a youtube video. Freedom of Speech.

next thing we'll be hearing about Ellen and Hillary.

I guess they got nuthin.

More fodder for the fire to come. This is'nt the change I think some had hoped for.

Are you really that scared?

it does'nt take alot of kindling to make the rethugs burn/swiftboat/misquote anyone. This will provide even more fodder for them to shoot with.

:dilemma: :dunce:

Since I had no idea. Its OK If You Are Barak Obama. The Clinton supporters have developed their own private dialect.

Post 134 is the other place. If there's one thing HRC's right flank has down pat, it's cut and paste. They like misogynists now. Rush Limbaugh is a hero and Richard Melon Scaife is God himself.

Tuen the country over to that kind of a desperate alliance? I don't think so.

I have no idea!

Obama's Bra 54 Double "D"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU&feature=related

it's not her singing, and she won't even state who she's voting for in the GE.
funny, cause when I first saw it I thought it was some stalker groupie. Anyway, it has nothing to do with the campaign.

She had zero to do with the Obama campaign?

:shrug:

its funny, they disavow people actually in the clinton campaign, like ferraro, and then pick on jane q. citizen for her OWN youtube video she made apart from the campaign.

sheesh.


well, if nothing else, this campaign is quite amusing.

The video was not produced by him or his campaign, so he had no power to stop it. It's called freedom of speech.

He should have said something to distance himself. Even ministers in the black community are outraged.

go buy a clue.


thanks.

August 20, 2007
'Obama girl' upset Obama's own girls
Posted: 03:58 PM ET

SALEM, New Hampshire (AP) – Barack Obama says Obama girl has upset his own girls.

The Web video of a scantily clad actress pledging her affection for the Democratic presidential candidate has been a hit online, but not in his own home. Obama says his 6-year-old daughter Sasha has noticed news coverage of the video.

"Sasha asked Mommy about it," Obama said Monday. "She said, 'Daddy already has a wife' or something like that."

Sen. Obama, D-Illinois, said he knows the video was meant to be lighthearted, but he wasn't smiling when asked about it in an interview with The Associated Press.

"I guess it's too much to ask, but you do wish people would think about what impact their actions have on kids and families," Obama said.

"This is part of the process of politics that can be difficult, (that) is making sure that your kids and your wife and your family are insulated from both things like this and what I suspect will be at some point some negative campaigning," Obama said.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/08/20/obama-girl-upset-obamas-own-girls/

But he did not carry it through. The hell with free speech when your daughters are upset with a woman propagating sex in your campaign.

The video was created as a political parody by independent film makers, not as a campaign plug by supporters.

Obama has no control over it and its distribution and can't stop it. Can't sue, no legal basis for doing so. As no doubt you are aware.

Duh.

He said he didn't like it or approve of it. I fail to see what else he can do.

...for the good of Barack--we cannot have him tempted by her unseemly behavior.... :sarcasm:

Oh, wait a minute...my calendar reads 2008. How about yours...?

Duke

You fail, as you'll discover if you do some research.

pulleeze get a fucking LIFE

Evidently it's nothing like yours.

for small favors.

Am I not supposed to believe you were just visiting a porn site before posting this, or will visit one soon after?

So, it's ok to use women in a sexual suggestive manner to push a Presidential candidate? I don't.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Got_a_Crush_on_Obama#cite_note-cnn-7

Filmmakers web site: http://www.tufux.com/media.htm

Interview with filmmakers where they state the Obama girl video was a political parody: http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-etobama0625,0,1449886.story?coll=ny-homepage-mezz

...can you tell me when the Obama campaign endorsed Obama Girl? When they hired her to do the schtick? Does it matter that she was doing it even BEFORE he announced?

Or are your assertions all generally this content-free?

Duke

out there on the Web that touches on his campaign. Stupid thread.

Keep in mind that this is a private citizen supporting a candidate and (much more to the point) increasing their own recognition in hopes of cashing in somehow.

In this circumstance, would "Hillary-Boy" classify as "clear sexual exploitation"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFycTqrsymk


and here's another Hillary admirer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLSWudoqtWE


Wow! Kind of puts "Hillary 4 U and Me" in a different (and better light) after these two adoring videos.

I truly appreciate Will.i.am's talents! He can make a respectable video for a candidate!

...but a poster downstream kindly provided one....a woman who made a sexy Hillary video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sudw4ghVe8

I Got a Crush on Hillary is one of my favorites!

Maybe I'm just weird but the music rocks, the lyrics are great and the kid's kinda cute. Plus when I get as old as Hillary, I'd be thrilled to have a young guy like that think I'm hot :shrug: He said it was a spoof and not to take the song seriously but it's too cute!

The Irish Munchkinland "Hip, hip for Hillary" is well, appropriate.

Nobody beats Will.i.am! That's a classic forever.

I would be disgusted and I am willing to bet Bill would stop it in a day. I don't think this is what the World needs to see a President promoting.

You are a pretty funny dude I will give you that.

That aside, why would "Bill" be the one stopping it? Why not Hillary?

Isn't she the candidate?

Obama girl posts here, btw.

Assuming the person with the user name "obama_girl" is actually THE Obama Girl. Either way, I thought that was mildly amusing (I'm easily amused on a Monday).

She's not an employee, volunteer, or relative. She's just a fan.

:P

:rofl:

:spank:

Sex sells, guess we don't need a marketing degree to know that. This is a Presidential race not a bachelor party.

of expression, and has absolutely zero connection to the Obama campaign. You probably know that.

It has nothing to do with issues or policies or debates, it's sex. She knows it, Obama knows it and it's sad that we now have come to this place.

How exactly should Obama have "handled" it? This is the most inane thread I have read in a while, that is saying much.

All he has to do is tell people he disagrees with the exploitation "thats what it is" and move on.

Turns out Obama himself might not be too keen on Ettinger either. He told the Associated Press earlier this week that his own daughters became upset with the risqué video, saying, "You do wish people would think about what impact their actions have on kids and families."

link: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/08/23/obama-girl-may-become-clintons-girl/

But, I understand if you would like to hear very specific words from him, for something quite old and quite ridiculous. Don't hold your breath.

I got it. Question nothing, just head to the cliff. Got it,thanks.

I typed that real slow so you could understand it. Obviously the poster above showed you where Obama indicated his non-endorsement of the "Obama Girl" video.

Your response just proves that you don't care about engaging in rational discussion. Congratulations, I'm sure that you've made quite a few "ignore" lists with just this thread alone.

Nothing to see, move along. Not saying anything is the ulitmate in lawyer speak.

You keep repeating the same fucking thing over and over, despite the fact that you know damned well that Obama's campaign did not produce the video in question.

You've also proven that you favor censorship of private political videos.

It's a "political" video, did it belong in the campaign last time around? Why does sex play a roll in a POTUS campaign?

If you're going to compare some girl shaking her body in a PRIVATE video on YouTube to the vicious anti-Kerry Swiftboat campaign, then you've clearly gone off the deep end.

You first.

I haven't alerted the moderators to this insipid thread, and nobody's saying that you don't have a right to make a fool of yourself.

You seem to be the one on here who advocates restrictions on free speech.

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Where are we now?

If Obama asked you to take down the video, would you do it?

If I've been misinformed I apologize. I didn't get the memo about April Fool's Day being moved forward.

LOL I'm not Obama girl. I guess we look alike a little bit but I'm not sure why people think she's me.lol

you are Obama Girl. hahhaha.

I remember the story, but I never paid it that much attention, to be honest. I had no idea that it would suddenly become an issue...what, a year later? Shame you're not her, though. You could settle this debate once and for all if you were, just by answering the question I asked. It'd be like the Marshall McLuhan moment in Annie Hall.

Freaken Hawt!

Or erection? I guess your vote is secure.

I probably have to buy her dinner first. :D

At least it's in line with Hillary's "victim" strategy right now.

:rofl:

:sarcasm:

I love you too.

I was about to support Obama, but now that I'm thinking about the Obama girl's boobies, the chances of me voting are reduced.

on election day or I will never make it out of the shower.

Damn him.

Can you provide any evidence whatsoever that the Obama campaign is responsible for these "Obama Girl" videos?

Also, are you saying that attractive, large breasted women shouldn't be allowed to express themselves in such manner?

I'm not really sure what to make of your post, except that you don't seem to think that it should be allowed.

because a single Hillary supporter is upset.

n/t

It's because of her body that she is getting attention. Thats it. She has a nice body and it makes her "message" appealing.

"She has a nice body"

You sexist pig. How dare you degrade women like that by commenting on her body!

you wouldn't care because the message wouldn't be selling? Is that right?

That is not even a question, why it was allowed in a Presidential campagin is beyond me.

You might like to check it out sometime.

Just not Presidential, I believe there is a difference. Of course his girls must have been upset with her smile and the way she wants Obama to be with her. great erection! I mean election we got here.

It's about him. What kind of values does he represent? He feels it's ok to exploit women for his campaign? I guess it is a change for sure..using sex to sell a candidate.

oh wait, he is NOT.

He sees nothing!:yoiks:

http://www.barelypolitical.com/obama-girl/episode/hill_get_out_20070324

Watch it for yourselves...

Nice job to the Obama campaign..fuck the issues, we need sex.

And probably find her attractive and funny.

What part of Obama's campaign has nothing to do with this is hard for you to grasp?

Just because he said so...right.

To quote Sen. Clinton Supporter Rev. James David Manning:

"Obama is a mack daddy! You don't get your campaign started with a big-chested white woman! She must be a 54D! Double-D! ... OBAMA! That's the first place I saw , on two great big ol' tits!... He pimps white women and black women. Obama is a long-legged Mack Daddy. I haven't trashed Obama. His African in heat father went a whoring after a trashy white woman. He was born trash. I said he was born trash. I didn't trash him. I'm speaking the truth about him... You hippocrites you. You don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot. "

Article here:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/hillary-supporting-preacher-first-place.html

Video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU

This coming from the Hope and Change candidate..was'nt expecting this kind of change.:eyes:

Some people in the Clinton camp wanted to put duct tape on his mouth to keep him quiet.

Certainly I don't think he did himself or her side any favours.

Some DUer has her for his signature.

to see if we can get a date with the Obama girl.

I think my 23 year son has a better chance though.

Thank you for making my point. If Hillary allowed the Chippendale's to do a dance routie with her name on their shirts, I can tell you it would'nt last a day.

it is not Obama's responsibility to put a stop to it. I would not want a President that would think he could stop something that is freedom of speech. We already have one of them right now. I thought it was hilarious that the skank did not even vote for him!!

I don't think they're crazy about it, but Obama girl is a lucrative gig for this young woman. No one forced her to take the role of Obama girl. I thought the whole thing was kind of cute myself.

Bending and dancing like a stripper is cute? I would think Michelle would be upset that a scantily clad women says she has crush on her husband. Not sure, thats just me. This is a Presidential campaign not a MTV video.

I'm entitled to think Obama girl is cute. Is there a "Prudes For Hillary" wing of the party now?

This is a Presidential campaign, not an MTV hip hop video.

The young woman says she knows Hillary isn't gay, but hopes she's bi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sudw4ghVe8

erm...after I watch it a couple of more times...

Does'nt make it right either way and it's not the same. His daughters got upset over nothing, I guess.:eyes:

You keep deliberately sidestepping the fact that this is a PRIVATE venture, not an Obama campaign issue.

Would you like to see videos from private citizens be banned, or have to pass some sort of "purity" test?

If you can provide the link to where they are off, I think I'd like to review it and get back to you regarding the question in your original post; thanks.

:rofl::yourock::rofl:

Yeah... I'd like to judge that for myself as well.

:evilgrin:

:beer:

No one would even click to see her clothed. She has just enough on the make it "R" rated and she is pushing a Presidential candidate.

:spank:

:rofl:

bring your own straws to grasp at?

Or do you spend your days making up issues like Youtube video viral folks to make your point?

Care to tell us one reason to vote for Hillary?

Oh no, you're into rumor mongering and making up issues. I got it!

believe me, if guys could get the same attention, theyd milk the hell out of it. i dont think its sexism, i think its a monopoly on sexiness. its unfair i tells ya!

Where is the dignity in this? I spose we could just invite Girls Gone Wild to do an exclsuive party at the White House when he gets elected?

This is not a free for all. There should be parameters in place that are clear to the electoral process. Sex is not one of them. Fun or not...this was aimed at an audience to do something other than be silly.

Would you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sudw4ghVe8

a good dose of outrage is in order, dont you think?

It's tiddy girl's way of covering what was blatant, now Obama's children are upset. Go figure. He should have canned it when it came out.

Still waiting for an example that doesn't violate the First Amendment.

Thank you. I'm glad that you finally came out and admitted that you think political speech should be censored. God forbid someone with a sense of humor and an attractive body makes a video that you find offensive.

I'm sure there are plenty of religious repukes who find the Obama Girl just as offensive as you do.

Yes, there parameters of what is acceptable, that is why they have changed so many laws and the crooks work around them. Sex should not be involved in a Presidential race imo. Maybe Obama approves, I do not.

Good to see that you and McCain have something in common.

Now that you've set yourself up to be the arbiter of "what is acceptable", please why don't you tell us exactly what is and what isn't acceptable. Just in case one of us wants to make our own YouTube video, we want to make sure that it's okay with you.

responsibility, yes. Free speech is protected but there are 2 sides to this coin. If the rethug candidate would have done this, you wuld have skewered him like a hotdog. Obama should had said something, he has free speech too.

"NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGEE!!!!!!!!!"

Sexy, funny, smart, Over the Top, and topical.

"Hi B, call me ...." :rofl:



People really need to get a life.

Don't want anyone having a cardiac arrest in this thread.

Kristi1696 discovered him first:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5254634&mesg_id=5255053

:toast:

Someone give me some air. I can't breath. Ooooow! Yes, that one! :toast:

Looks like a girl I used to work out with, cept she's little bigger up top.

BIMBOS. She is not involved with the Obama campaign. LOL! She couldn't even bother to vote. Did you hear him say, This is Barack Obama and I approve this message." No. Please.

His silence speaks volumes, or should I say the "fertile internet" did it. Right.

:yoiks:

being exploited, I'll work extra hard to keep that rascally impeached zippergate lecher out of the White House.

:wow:

:evilgrin:

snap. :D

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:shrug:

That sounds like what some right wing prick from free republic would say. Just saying.

Were you the one who recommended this thread?

Ever get to the part about removing the beam from thine eye?

IT'S BETTER THAT THIS GETS OUT NOW!

I'm just trying to help the prudes out. If old BillyBoy gets back in the White House and starts his thong inspections again, they could have a heart attack. I wouldn't want that to happen to any of the underpaid HRC spammers I've grown to love so much since their nerves are too delicate to take the shock. It's just deferential sisterly concern from a young feminist.

It must be that Scaife endorsement turning some people into sudden prudes.

:hi:

Hmmm....?

She was younger
She was willing
She was not getting paid
She was a professional woman

She was getting money for sex from one of Hillary's delegates. That made it ok

:shrug:

:hi:

I'm catching on :hi:

Thanks for the reminder of how you spent millions of dollars looking for sex. Nice.

On so many things. But alas, the fascination with him continues and the lemming run keeps on going.

"Experience can not be faked," eh? Not for lack of trying!

Does anything ever change in Hillaryland or does time just stand still?

I think sometimes in this campaign/You've got a crush on John McCain

I knew your Candidate was'nt serious. If it upsets his daughters then I would imagine he would have done soemthing about it. Impotence.

of being prudish over exposed breasts but not about a philandering president using a cigar as a sexual aid on a girl young enough to be his daughter while his wife is in the same house. My candidate doesn't shut down free speech. I shudder to think how free speech will be endangered by Hillary Clinton who voted for the Patrior Act not just once but twice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

Let's not even mention the war that has traumatized millions of women and young girls.

Your posts and bizarre gymnastics are entertaining. Please carry on. I encourage you to because you're just turning Hillary into more of a big joke.

Remind me not to mess with you!

:rofl:

:rofl:

Ouch!

Nice. When will you nice ladies start sporting bikinis and hot pants at your gatherings? Count me in!

:shrug:

Hillaryland is getting more bizarre by the day.

my goodness...it burns!

And all in good fun, not to mention great at lightening the mood a little. Nobody takes "her" seriously, and by "her" I mean "Obama Girl" not Amber Lee Ettinger.

Obama Girl is a ficticious character portrayed by Ms. Ettinger and put together by probably a couple dozen nerdy guys with really good After Effects skills, along with some pretty reasonable musical talent.

I've thought this barelypolitical.com stuff has really lightened the mood in an increasingly dreary campaign.

David

As far as I know she has no official connection to the Obama campaign. She appears to be an independent operative doing her own thing. Is she allowed to do her own thing? Or is she exploiting herself?

I guess she would'nt have the same effect if she were 32b would she? It's sex.

pathetic, and decidely lame issue to pick on.

Clearly, Obama needs to address this issue immediately, and stop supporting this kind of rampant criminality.

Obama Girl is doing this on her own. I don't quite understand the outrage here, although I'm beginning to think it is quite false. Please explain who she is exploiting and how.

Right here in this thread. By Hillary people who are desperately trying to find a piece of ridiculous, meaningless poo they can throw at Obama which will stick.

I think I'm getting the O face. O. O. O.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIiMa2Fe-ZQ&NR=1



Obama Girls Carries Iowa :rofl:

The Obama Girl was a performer doing a spoof created by a group of satirists known for doing this kind of stuff. She was in no way connected to the Obama campaign and they have no control over what this group does. Why hasn't Clinton gone after the Hillary Girl?

Evidently his campaign has no problem with people using his name to show their T&A. Great President he will be.:eyes:

...oh wait, she didn't. Never mind.

:rofl:

Sniper fire is'nt tiddy fire.

is there an Obama boy?

I'm a 50yo "fundie" and I think it's cute. My elderly mother is a retired elementary school teacher and *she* loves it, for crying out loud:eyes:

It's certainly not how I would express my appreciation for the man and his ideas, but we all speak with different voices. Why would you want to shut someone up, just because you find their method of expression a bit offensive?

Lighten up, hon:pals:

Tits don't sell a candidate, his policies/issues and experience do. We've turned this campaign into a global joke with his minister and his supporters.

for a concerned feminist, your sexist language is so....ugh.

Obama doesn't have any control over what she does. I guess Hillary supporters have some difficulty with the concept of civil liberties. :shrug;

Frankly I doubt she is even serious about politics or Obama.
I don't think she even voted in the primary.

Holy shit! I thought this was a 'democratic' 'progressive' board I joined.

Who the hell are you to tell a woman what she's supposed to dress, how to behave, and what to do with her body? Who are you to say Obama should criticise a woman for her freedom of speech and her clothing choices?

Exploitative? Oh yes, I take it you're one of those people who think women should dress up from head to toe, and not show any skin, because its 'immoral' and against our 'family values', oh and how 'low has society fallen'. They probably 'deserve getting raped when they dress like that as well' right?

Fuck this shit. She has the right to dress any way she wants, and to say anything she wants, move anyway she wants, and be as provovative as she wants, and if you think sex, or erotic imagery is somehow immoral, or wrong, or against our ethics, you can go join the GOP and vote with the rest of the 'family values' people for a return to the 10th century.

I swear, if Obama said something against her,he'd probably lose most of his youth support, and I'd personally probably stop supporting him- we don't need assholes to tell us that society is 'unethical' and women need to learn how to dress, that sex is bad, and mini-skirts are immoral. Welcome to the new progressive world where you can express your self any way you want, and the fake manufactured limits of morality on what we can do as free consending individuals no longer apply.

You're in for the big surprise!! Welcome to the DU!!
:hi:

The Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage.

Several different sects - Today we're being visited by the Mackinnon-Dworkin offshoot.

Much as I disagree with 'em, their arguments tend to be far more solid than this gibberish.

This is just desperation from Camp Hillary. If the Obama Girl was, say, an anteater poacher, the OP would be the world's biggest friend to the anteater.

the church - They'll disband after the election. Or split even further.

Do you think the Camp HIlary followers of the Church sacrifice kittens or puppies around the campfire?

:rofl:

and the Patron Saint of The Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage is...

Iconography so famous it's already cataloged at the Library of Congress

Replete with halo, upward gazing face, and heroically clad in armor and sword, Kunz's figure of Clinton evokes the patience and passion of the martyred saint.The symbolic portrait was created to accompany a 1993 feature story about the First Lady, which discussed her views on virtue, politics, and the role of government in peoples' lives.

http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/swann/kunz/kunz-exhibit.html



ALLELUIA. SAINT HILLARY

No apologies.

And it's going to be used every chance I get.

Just google Saint Hillary in images. There are 3 different sizes. :toast:

You came up with a response that the OP had no rebuttal for.

Truth be told, the OP really hasn't rebutted any responses yet, but just keeps repeating the same old mantra over and over.

don't fit in their narrow minded view of how we should behave.

Who the hell is anybody to call the girl a bimbo or immoral, or anything like that because of the way she dresses, behaves, talks, sings, whatever? Anybody know her personally? Why should Obama condemn an individual for not following his own personal code of ethics? Unbelievable stuff! Some progressives indeed!

That's a great rant. Preach it!

:hi:

who also says "negro" a lot and calls Barack Obama a "pimp" and a "Mac Daddy." Let's watch his crazy YouTubes together!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU


.

funny.

Now, everyone, here is another one of Obama Girl's masterpieces:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU">"I Got a Crush...On Obama" has over 7 million views. It's the video that kicked off her 15 minutes of stardom.

Watch it for yourself...