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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:04 AM Original message |
Clinton 70 electoral votes better than 0bama, 0bama gets crushed 324-205 |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's an awfully big assumption to assume that Obama will lose both Michigan and Pennsylvania. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. On January 3 , 2008, the Democratic Presidential Primary season |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. and that has what to do with being unelectable in the general election? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. What's the matter? Are the rules of the game not workin' out for ya? |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Yep, new metric. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. How did Kerry get nominated? Clinton in 92'? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Gallup sez Obama is more electable against McCain than Hillary, 59-30%. 2 to 1. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. How many electoral votes does that push poll question have? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. "Of course people are going to say the front-runner is more electable..." |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. The brain power on display by JD is stunning, isn't it? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #53 |
83. When are you moving out of Mom's basement? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #83 |
88. When are you moving out of Clinton's ass? |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
190. She will as soon as Obama starts a "race war". |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #88 |
191. when she has her next BM, in about 12 weeks |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Naive |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
68. I had no idea that Mondale only won MN and DC in 1984. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Yeah but they kicked tail during the primaries! |
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PseudoIntellect (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
87. Seven months into the future, election day will still not be here. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #87 |
99. PI read what you just said |
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PseudoIntellect (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #99 |
116. Today, Obama polled slightly better than Clinton in MI and NJ. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #116 |
127. MO? Forget it with Obama |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #99 |
175. When was the LAST time Mass voted for a Rethuglican for Prez? |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:07 AM Response to Reply #55 |
159. they were frontrunners, right? In front of the oncoming bus |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
158. no matter that the GE will have an additional 100 million + voters |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
138. OK, let's consider electabiility then, shall we? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:16 AM Response to Reply #138 |
146. What data is that based on? |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #146 |
163. "foolish to trade solid Dem votes" |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #163 |
193. Kerry won 89% of the Dem vote. Gore did even better |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #146 |
170. It is not an "Obamite myth" to think |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #170 |
192. Clinton and Obama get about the same rethug support against McCain |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #146 |
189. Exit polls, turnout statistics, and a dash of common sense |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #189 |
195. Primaries aren't the general election |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 04:51 AM Response to Reply #195 |
197. This is the best the guy who said "what data is that based on?" can do? |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:30 AM Response to Reply #138 |
153. you are wrong! |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #153 |
179. I'm sure they're not too happy their votes won't be counted.. |
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FatDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #179 |
187. WTF are you talking about? |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #138 |
176. Exactly TRUE! |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
157. apparently winning the nomination is all that matters, they don't care if they win the GE |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
177. OMG..get some help! You're so transparent... |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. Welcome back |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
101. Thanks |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. A whole week off... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Scary week: Clinton led McSame and 0bama was competitive a week ago |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. A 10-point lead is tanking? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Wait I was wrong. 0bama was never closer than 61 electoral votes |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Irrelevant. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Winning the White House is "irrelevant"? |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. No. Electoral votes in a Freakin' primary |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #42 |
58. How does Obama beat McCain? Show us how he erases a 119 electoral vote deficit |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Why should I even bother? |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
64. He was ahead in the first part of March - link |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Pastorgate anyone? |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #72 |
85. Perhaps, along with the kitchen sink. It is odd though... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #85 |
103. Did you think he was going to be coronated? |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. No, a complaint wasn't really intended. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #106 |
118. Show me how Obama wins |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #118 |
125. Going by this map (same data, different method) |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #125 |
128. Let's look at the states |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #128 |
132. A good analysis, but there is too much time left. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #132 |
133. I agree there is plenty of time |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #103 |
162. one bad case of Clinton Projection Syndrome |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:19 AM Response to Reply #72 |
166. Bullshit |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
109. We were so afraid... |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
198. I thought you were going to stop using 0bama |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
90. They try to figure out how to recycle old shit to make it look new. |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. Welcome back, Jackson. Wasn't the same without ya. |
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acrosstheuniverse (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I don't like Jackson... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
22. Obama does! |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
8. Clinton is SO unelectable. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
9. What's with misspelling Obama's last name? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
12. I thought I smelled something. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. LOL |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
17. Thanks for posting this Jackson! |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
18. APRIL FOOL! |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
43. The Fool and April what a surprise! |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
115. ROFL Swampy |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
19. I honestly don't see the logic of this electoral stuff |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Smokescreen. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. The logic=nominate someone who can be elected president |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Again, you haven't shown me what one has to do with the other |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. He has no intention of proving anything. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
60. "safely assume". You need to look at the map again |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
20. Data is data, thanks. There is more to the picture, though. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
34. A 70 electoral vote difference when 270 are needed is "tied"? |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. That data also says Obama loses New Jersey by a large margin - the narrow wins to get him |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Which is why Obama is even scarier. His 205 is on a knife's edge |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
114. The economy is tanking.. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Not what I saw out of Rasmussen Today: McCain 46 Obama 45/ McCain 45 Hillary 42 |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. True - 500 likely voters- seems Obama's sexist campaign is helping McCain in the vs. Hillary matchup |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
75. It is an outlier |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. "Every Other Poll has her Comfortably winning" Do you have any RECENT ones? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #78 |
105. 119 electoral votes. Where does Obama get them? |
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:33 AM Response to Reply #75 |
149. paths |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #51 |
73. Different measures: Popular vote vs electoral projections |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
107. We don't elect presidents by the popular vote |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #107 |
123. Exactly, and this whole thread is a valid concern. |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
21. So, Obama really isn't going to win the South? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Apparently not. Who is the last Democrat to win without the South? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
23. And They're Back! |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
74. Someone piss em off so they are gone another week!! n/t |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Or piss 'em off twice as much. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
25. Rasumussen poll today shows Hillary losing in Jersey by 3 and Obama by only 1. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Typical cherry picking from an Obamite |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Rasmussen's poll came out today...do you have a more recent poll? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. You have 119 electoral votes? Show us a path to victory for 0bama |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Electoral votes were irrelevant upthread, |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Care to provide some polls to back up this map? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #47 |
62. The polls are referenced at the link |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I see nothing at electoralvote.com, can you provide a real link or not? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #66 |
76. http://www.electoral-vote.com/ (I forgot the -) |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. The most recent poll on that site out of Jersey is from Feb 27th and it was done by Rasmussen |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #82 |
89. Much of the data is old, but that is usually the case. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. I also think once we are united by a candidate, the numbers will rise |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #92 |
104. That is a pretty safe bet. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #82 |
108. Why are you obssessed with one state? Obama is down by 119. 15+ won't matter |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Just pointing out how old your data is. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #111 |
119. 270 votes are needed to win. How does your candidate get to the magic number? |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
80. This is what the OP is referencing |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
54. True - 500 likely voters- seems Obama's sexist campaign is helping McCain in the vs. Hillary matchup |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Or it was her little fib about Bosnia |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Don't you guys ever get tired of playing the victim? |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
27. Wow you use a zero instead of the letter O in Obama's name. You're really cool. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
28. I see you have adopted the childish strategy of using a zero for the O..how stupid. |
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smartvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
30. The Zero Replacement is Utterly Childish. nt |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
33. Jackson_dino...thats you're new name. Its just as childish as your name calling. |
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Yes We Did (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
50. Your assessment of the Electoral math makes no sense... It's false |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. There are no polls being given to back up this data, and when I challenge them with refuting polls.. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. RAS is the only poll showing Hillary doing more poorly than Obama in Jersey - but I have no |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Well only because of 'Hillary's Racist campaign is helping McCain' |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. There are polls for each state at the link--which you surely know |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
59. small typo in your source and further more hopeful analysis of the data |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
69. Another good and current electoral site link |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
79. Let It Sink! n/t |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Like the General? No thanks. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #81 |
110. haha--good catch! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #79 |
93. makes you look weak. |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #79 |
95. Oh, give it a rest. Talking about polling data here. |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
84. And with a now fractured Dem base? Obama is nothing but a disaster --NT |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
86. Oh you're still here. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #86 |
124. I am glad jacksondem is on DU. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:57 AM Response to Reply #86 |
161. but does he do windows? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
91. REC |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Welcome Home! |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #94 |
112. Calling Obama "0bama"=bad. Offending folks with that avatar=good |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:03 AM Response to Reply #94 |
139. You lie---there was no "campaign" And hope you are over your peeping tom days. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:05 AM Response to Reply #94 |
140. I find your avatar offensive to my faith. You would not do this to the Muslim faith--why |
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PseudoIntellect (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
96. Basically, should we decide the nominee based on who is |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Hoping that name snarking will not become your hallmark.... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #96 |
113. We should take all factors into account, unlike what we did in 72', 84', and 88' |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
97. It's important to understand how |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. I know...they are posting sometimes month old data. They don't realize... |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Expect more of the same. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #102 |
117. We should really consider not posting responses to |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #102 |
121. Any inconvenient truth is a disruption to Obama supporters |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #98 |
120. Read the thread. She has went down but remains competitive |
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PseudoIntellect (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
122. Jackson, if you're indeed correct about this, then I see absolutely no reason for |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #122 |
129. This isn't about the primaries. The map is about general election strength |
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joeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
126. You are high if you think that map matters during the primary. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #126 |
130. Have you heard of the Republican party? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #130 |
135. Do you remember the Clintons' completely scandal free years in the WH? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:08 AM Response to Reply #135 |
141. I remember them beating the rethug attack machine over and over again |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #141 |
144. If by "beat" you mean "barely survive," yeah they sure did. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #144 |
147. 69% approval rating. That is as high as you can realistically go |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 04:44 AM Response to Reply #141 |
150. Bill Clinton has proven he can beat the Republican attack machine, Hillary has not |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
131. Oh God, you're back. |
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kevinmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
134. Kerry Beat Bush the same way ..... n/t |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
136. Ever occur to you that the pukes want Hillary to win? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:13 AM Response to Reply #136 |
145. The opposite could be true |
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
137. Wonder what a map for Al Gore would look like. /nt |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #137 |
142. Good question. I know what the map would look like for Edwards... |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
143. but... but.. O kicked hill's ass in UT and WY and SC, that's whatt really matters. nt |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
148. This kind of exercise is such a complete waste of time. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
151. not this bullshit again..... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:10 AM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Wake up---name-calling is a bullying tactic |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:49 AM Response to Reply #152 |
155. bullying tactic? What is this pre-school? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #155 |
186. They pooh-pooh on bullies here.. |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
154. Dem on Dem Primary Contests mean NOTHING RE Electoral Math |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
156. So Obama gets crushed in the GE |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
160. mere weeks ago |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
164. Logic isn't a strong point I see. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
165. We're still counting delegates, not electoral votes n/t |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
167. i guess the super delegates better over turn the will of the voters |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
168. FYI: Hillary has this little problem |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
169. IMHO, this is an idiotic premise. The Democratic vote is split |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
171. This is just one estimate from one source. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
172. This shit again? Why? |
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JayFredMuggs (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #172 |
178. Because the Hillary folks are now getting REALLY REALLY... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
173. Thinking that Obama OR Clinton would only win the states they won in the nomination? |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
174. Wow-we have a "psychic" in our midst |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #174 |
180. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits. |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
181. K&R |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
182. Your theory VAPORIZED: Primary Elections are extremely different than General Elections |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
183. Nut-job. NT |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
184. Obama can win without OH , FL or PA |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #184 |
185. K&R |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
188. I was honestly looking for an APRIL FOOLS! disclaimer. |
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elixir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
194. Another gem, JD. Look's like the math is working for Our Girl. Or is it a metric? |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
196. I'm stupid - so give me a minute |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-02-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
199. We're DOMED!!!111burp11 |
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