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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:00 AM
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Is it possible for Obama to lose the popular vote in PA but win more delegates?
Something akin to Nevada or Texas?

I'm not saying it's possible. I'd like to know.

Is it possible? At all?

I need some help from those who really know the delegate apportionment in Pennsylvania. Can Obama win enough in the urban centers to offset the middle T in the state that we hear so much about?

Any help you can give would be appreciated.

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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:02 AM
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1. I have heard that the delegate allotment benefits Obama because of the population centers.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:03 AM
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2. Thanks for that
Appreciate your input
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:03 AM
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3. I 2nd that. nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:04 AM
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4. Yes.
If, for example, he wins in the Philadelphia area.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:07 AM
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5. Well then how would the press play election night??
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 10:08 AM by SoonerPride
Would they say "Hillary wins" or "Obama wins" ??

To me, when the score that matters is delegates, the popular vote is like yards in a football game. So what if the other team gets 200 more yards than you do if they lose on the scoreboard?

So what if Hillary got more popular votes in Nevada or Texas or (potentially) Pennsylvania? Aren't the news media doing us a disservice by focusing on meaningless metrics like popular vote percentages when the only tally that matters is delegates??

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:15 AM
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6. I think that
there are other similar examples from this primary season.

In terms of the results, I think that both the popular vote and the delegate count are significant. That may be especially so if the contest goes to the convention. I am confident that Senator Obama will win the nomination and the general election.

The corporate media will, as always, combine one part truth, one part lies, and a scattering of commercials.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:19 AM
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7. It's actually quite similar to the "red-blue" state map the media loved to show us
Bush states without many people were large and very red, but wherever there were actual concentrations of PEOPLE, dems seemed to win or do better..

Philadelphia is a LARGE city, so of course Obama would do better there..

The media will spin it as "black-vote", and somehow the dinky little towns of 3K widows & underemployed people will be deemed more credible than hundreds of thousands of voters in large metro areas..
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:59 PM
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8. Right.
It's also based on how many people in the urban centers voted for the democratic ticket in 2004.
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