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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:55 AM
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Latest polls from RCP do not look good for Obama!
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 08:56 AM by hell-bent
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html Obama surrogates: Take a look, but you better get permission first.....:rofl:
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:56 AM
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1. Is it still spring break? I thought school was back in.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:59 AM
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4. Yes it's spring and time to get out the old

WHACK A




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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:59 AM
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6. Pardon me, but is that picture in your response
an Obama surrogate getting the latest instructions from the Mother ship? :>)
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:01 AM
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10. Nope - found it when I did a Google on your screen name.
And by the way - Is that you jlake?

Back again?


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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:07 AM
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14. No, I am the guy that attends every basketball game for the Lakers.
Front row, too! Don't you just love the Joker.....Ha,ha,ha,
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:20 AM
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31. So you're claiming to be Jack Nicholson?
Ok, love your work Jack. Why Hillary?
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:32 AM
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37. Were did you get that idea?
There are lots of Laker fans which have front row seats. Don't let your imagination run wild. Why Hillary? She is the most qualified of the two, and is an accomplished street fighter. She will hammer the old goat in the GE.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:49 AM
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52. K&R For Hillary!!!
Lest keep those expectations high folks!!!

:rofl:
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:58 AM
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2. Hmmmm......
And, naturally, the RCP poll is absolutely the most accurate, right?
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:00 AM
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7. Cue the crickets!~
:rofl:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:00 AM
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9. It's the new Ohio, PA and Florida matchup polls which are important.
Pennsylvania: McCain vs. Clinton Quinnipiac McCain 40, Clinton 48, Und 8 Clinton +8
Pennsylvania: McCain vs. Obama Quinnipiac McCain 39, Obama 43, Und 11 Obama +4
Florida: McCain vs. Clinton Quinnipiac McCain 42, Clinton 44, Und 8 Clinton +2
Florida: McCain vs. Obama Quinnipiac McCain 46, Obama 37, Und 9 McCain +9
Ohio: McCain vs. Obama Quinnipiac McCain 42, Obama 43, Und 8 Obama +1
Ohio: McCain vs. Clinton Quinnipiac McCain 39, Clinton 48, Und 8 Clinton +9
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:24 AM
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34. Thanks--you are right
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:27 AM
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47. This far from the GE, no, they are not important at all. Another HRC straw grasp. n/t
:dem:
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:02 AM
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Well, I guess you don't understand.
RCP is not a polling organization; it just lists the latest poll numbers which Obama supporters don't care to look at if there is any bad news.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:57 AM
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55. And the very first one listed shows Obama beating Clinton in Penn.

The remaining Obama/Clinton polls in Pennsylvania show Obama trending upwards versus Clinton.

Given this, I assumed the anti-Obama snark in the opening post was sarcasm. But looking through this thread it appears you actually thought you were providing a link with bad news for Obama instead of good.

You might want to re-visit your link.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:18 AM
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25. gee, you better go post a separate thread about a poll you likey.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:31 AM
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48. No need for that
RCP lists latest poll for PA with Obama +2 over Clinton.

PPP press release utterly contradicts the OP assertion:

Obama overtakes Clinton in PA

Raleigh, N.C. – Barack Obama has taken the lead over Hillary Clinton 45-43 in
Pennsylvania, according to the newest survey from Public Policy Polling.

It’s a remarkable turn around from PPP’s last Pennsylvania poll, conducted two and a
half weeks ago, that showed Clinton with a 26 point lead in the state.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 12:51 PM
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56. Thank you for kicking a good thread, very kind
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:50 AM
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53. RCP does not do polls. Ever
They merely collect polling data and average them.

They have been around for years doing the same thing. It's what made 2006 Senate results not so surprising...
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:58 AM
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3. Wow! Hillary is on top of McCain in Ohio, PA and FL.!!!
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 09:01 AM by goldcanyonaz
:woohoo:
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:02 AM
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11. Thanks for that lovely image.
Off to scour my brain.

:hide:
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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:12 AM
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20. ha ha..lmao..
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:17 AM
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24. .
Ahahahahahahahah... ew.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:59 AM
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5. Those are some interesting numbers
in some very interesting states which means Sen Obama supporters will simply ignore them although you're pretty childish yourself.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:00 AM
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8. But in cheerier news...
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:01 AM
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41. Lovely. Lovely graph. n/t
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:02 AM
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12. so he still wins Ohio and Pennsylvania
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:04 AM
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13. As an Obama supporter
no complaints with these polls
shaved off three points in penn since the last quinnipac poll

all the recent polls show him trending closer

that is great news
thanks for posting
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:25 AM
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35. You're welcome..
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:07 AM
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15. CLINTON OBAMA 2008
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:07 AM
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16. Thanks for the post
Great news for Obama. The national polls are great too. Only Fox News puts Clinton ahead of Obama.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/04/02/BAVNVU2PJ.DTL&type=printable :hi:
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:09 AM
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17. Pulling ahead in PA isn't good for Obama???
Pennsylvania Democratic Primary PPP (D) Clinton 43, Obama 45 Obama +2

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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:10 AM
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18. Ditto that
This is great news for Obama. The national polls favor Obama. Am I missing something? Do these folks live in Bizarro world?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:18 AM
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26. Hah. Maybe she'll offer him the VP spot again.
:eyes:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:11 AM
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19. I support Obama. Looks pretty good to me.
Maybe I missed something. :shrug:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:12 AM
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21. Interesting: "Obama overtakes Clinton in PA" (April 2, 2008)
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 09:15 AM by TahitiNut
Raleigh, N.C. – Barack Obama has taken the lead over Hillary Clinton 45-43 in Pennsylvania, according to the newest survey from Public Policy Polling. It’s a remarkable turn around from PPP’s last Pennsylvania poll, conducted two and a half weeks ago, that showed Clinton with a 26 point lead in the state. That poll was released at the height of the Jeremiah Wright controversy and the day before Obama’s major speech on race in Philadelphia. Obama has been trending upward in national polling and in many state level polls since then and this survey reflects that pattern.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Penn_Release_040208.pdf

It's interesting also that PPP (Public Policy Polling) is generally regarded as a "Democratic" pollster.

Those polled included 55% women, 59% over 45, 16% black

Thanks for the heads-up.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:20 AM
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30. Appropos of nothing....
... how did you get that pretty blue box to go around your text???
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:21 AM
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32. [div style="margin:10pt; padding:5pt; background:#eeffff; border:solid blue 1px;"] Quote Here [/div]
:hi:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:59 AM
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39. Very cool!!!!
I'd have never been able to figure that out on my own... thanks, Nut!!!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:38 AM
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50. Sure thing, partner!
(Remembering the Mod Squad All-Stars.)

I personally prefer the blue ... and OCCASIONALLY change it to pink/red. It reads better than the grey, to my eye.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:15 AM
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22. He is closing the gap - it looks like its going the right direction and fairly rapidly?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:21 AM
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33. What will most likely happen...
...with each state, it will become increasingly clear that there is no way Hillary can win.

Many just don't understand that now, because she's still in the race. However, it will become
more and more obvious, with each state, that she will be behind anywhere from 150-200 pledged
delegates.

That means---more voters will naturally flock to Obama with each remaining primary.

She's done. We just have to wait for these next few states to vote.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:16 AM
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23. "but you better get permission first..." HA HA--good one.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:18 AM
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27. If you don't like this poll, just wait, another will be coming around soon....nt
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:18 AM
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28. don't you mean latest polls from PA don't look good for CLINTON?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:30 AM
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36. It seems the Hillbots have a reading comprehension problem. (Color me unsurprised.)
:shrug:

RCP is showing PA polls surging in Obama's favor ... and the Hillbots read the exact opposite. Strange brain (mal)functioning. Must be that "math" thing.

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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:56 AM
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38. Sir, it appears that you have a comprehension problem.
The the RCP results of polling it is evident that you only have one favorable poll in that entire list. That poll that showed a 2 point spread for Obama has a margin of error of 2.8% They polled 1200+ voters. The other polls listed today must be very disturbing for you Obama surrogates. BTW, Hillary still leads in Pennsylvania by an average of over 6 points according to RCP. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html P.S. Color you wrong!
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:06 AM
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42. Hey fool, she was leading by 20 points 2 weeks ago. Are you insane??
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 10:06 AM by KansasVoter
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:16 AM
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44. Just hopelessly stupid, I'm guessing.
Even when it's spelled out, the fool just doesn't get it.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:14 AM
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43. It would have been better for you to keep quiet and be thought a fool ...
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 10:29 AM by TahitiNut
... than to post such tripe and prove it. EVERY recent poll in Pennsylvania shows an improvement in Obama's numbers and a deterioration of CLinton's lead. EVERY recent poll. Got that?

PPP shows Clinton as -2 ... DOWN from +26!
Rasmussen shows Clinton +5 ... DOWN from +10!
SurveyUSA shows Clinton +12 ... DOWN from +19!
Quinnipiac shows Clinton +9 ... DOWN from +12!

DOWN! DOWN! DOWN! DOWN! (Got it yet??) :eyes: Keep cheering, moron.

Next ... you betray a bigotry and animus in assuming that I'm an "Obama surrogate" or even a supporter. I am not. Got that? Despite your eagerness to fling feces and engage in the sociopathy of smear and sneer, you haven't demonstrated even the slightest COMPREHENSION who you're speaking to.

I favor Kucinich. I do not view Obama's stances as being much different than Clinton's, even though I think he's run a better campaign. But - and get this straight - I NEVER think I'm voting to elect a "campaigner." My interest is in their political positions insofar as they're relevant to the office to which they aspire.

So far, I'm not yet inclined to vote for ANYONE other than Kucinich. I am only slightly more inclined to hold my nose and vote for Obama than for Clinton ... and the latter is HIGHLY unlikely. Her votes on IWR, Bankruptcy, Iran, and stance on NAFTA, unemployment, and health care have created a DEBIT not yet sufficiently offset by CREDITS to EARN my vote.

So take your coloring book back to Romper Room, junior. Your head's apparently up your ass.

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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:51 AM
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54. Nothing in those polls is the least bit disturbing to any Obama supporter.
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:01 AM
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40. Slinkerwink, remember you had Dean leading in all
the various polls. What happen? He lost the first primary. Try picking a winner this time, will ya. :>)
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:37 AM
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49. This guy must have been lurking for a long time if he remembers you posting about Dean
That and the fact that the profile is concealed points to a former poster who has been TS'ed at least once.

And the posting style indicates the same thing.

Has anyone called for a Pizza yet?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:39 AM
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51. Yup.
It's been a Zombie Jamboree these days. :shrug:
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:18 AM
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29. Go Hillary!!
:kick:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:18 AM
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45. ~YES SHE WILL ~ YES WE WILL~~
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:22 AM
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46. The national numbers will change dozens of times before November
They are virtually worthless right now.
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