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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:28 PM
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Even though Barack Obama is beating Hillary Clinton right now, I have this unshakable gut feeling...
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 05:28 PM by The Night Owl
...that Clinton is going to get the nomination. Does anyone else have that feeling?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:28 PM
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1. It's just you.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:29 PM
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2. nope....all you
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:29 PM
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3. Nope. n/t
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:29 PM
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4. Not even a little bit.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:29 PM
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5. That's probably just gas.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:29 PM
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6. Not at all.
Next question.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:30 PM
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7. No.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:30 PM
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8. Who's bashing who?
:wtf:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:22 PM
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56. It's not a bash. It's a question.
The OP was not expressing insulting either Obama or Clinton--so this whole thread probably doesn't belong in GD:P
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:30 PM
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9. I Thought So
Turned out to be Norwalk Virus
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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:30 PM
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10. I have difficulty imagining her getting it at this point...
...let alone having any feeling it will actually happen.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:31 PM
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11. I haven't ruled it out --
although I'd like to.

This campaign won't be over until it's over.

Remember when we all KNEW it would be Clinton vs Giuliani? And McCain was THIS CLOSE to being DOA?

I don't think it'll happen, but I won't rest until it's over.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:45 AM
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96. That was at the very beginning. 40 states have voted now. nt
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:18 AM
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113. Well, I did predict that John McCain would get the Republican nomination...
...but that prediction was based on an analysis of the political landscape, not a gut feeling.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:31 PM
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12. You're in the severe minority there.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:31 PM
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13. Alien Queen? (Pic)
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:32 PM
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14. No way.
The Clintons have defeat all over them.
It's palpable.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:32 PM
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15. I don't know about it as a "feeling"
but it's certainly a reasonable outcome.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:32 PM
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16. Too bad about your
poor gut.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:32 PM
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17. Who are you supporting?
Cause maybe Like Hillary, your gut is telling you what you want to hear.
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:33 PM
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18. That's probably just something you ate! Won't happen! n/t
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:33 PM
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19. I hope so
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 05:33 PM by Cronus Protagonist
I want us to win the general election.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:35 PM
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23. Er...with a candidate whose favourability maxes out at around 45%....
and is currently about ten points lower? Good luck with that.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:41 PM
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31. Actually, with a candidate who won all the major Democratic states in the primary
Something Barry H.O. can't claim to have come even close to doing. I don't care much for Barry or for his Republican base, and they might like him in the primaries, but I have no confidence that these Republicans will vote for him in the general election. I'm sorry to see you appear to have such confidence, because my long experience says the result will be otherwise. For all of our sakes, I hope you're right if he does win the nomination.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:43 PM
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32. That argument is just tired.
and it makes you look foolish.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:01 PM
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63. You don't dispute the facts, I notice n/t
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:24 AM
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117. I stopped reading CP's post after
seeing "Barry HO." That tipped me off he/she was a shill. Thanks for confirming I didn't miss anything.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:53 AM
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122. I'm not a shill, but Barry's still a HO
(lighten up a bit will ya?)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:48 PM
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41. I'm sorry, but you're a gibbering moron if you think the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE...
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 05:48 PM by Spider Jerusalem
isn't going to win the 'major Democratic states' in November, whether the nominee is Clinton or Obama. Only a brain-damaged jackass could think that's a serious argument. Please explain to me, if you can, why California, New York, and Massachusetts are going to vote Republican if Obama is nominated. (And explain to me also when Illinois stopped being a major Democratic state, because I think I missed that.)
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:56 PM
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62. Obama's negatives are higher than Hillary's in Democratic states
Makes the race much closer than it need be. And if you think that Obama is going to flip any Republican states this election, you are being incredibly naiive.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:05 PM
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64. Virginia, for one
which isn't naivete; he does better there than Hillary. And you know, having a candidate who carries more than just solidly Democratic states, that are a likely given anyway, is not something I see as the best strategy for actually winning elections.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:09 PM
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66. Sure, if you don't mind getting in bed with Republicans
I'm not interested in wooing Republicans. Fuck 'em all.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:38 PM
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68. what about independents?
You're the one who's naive if you think you can win an election without them.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:43 PM
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69. Did your long experience inform you that McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore & Kerry
were going to lose?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:12 PM
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78. Gore won
All the rest were clear losers. They each brought a knife to a gunfight. I'm hoping to end the trend this election.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 06:48 AM
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93. Being annoying and appearing desperate is not how a POTUS gets the electorate to vote for them
Hillary may have beat Romney, but she will not be able to beat McCain by running on experience.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:32 PM
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81. This was a delegate race from the start. What states a candidate wins is irrelevant. n/t
n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:55 AM
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91. What a surprise. The candidate with the most dedicated high power connections (thanks to Bill)...
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 12:56 AM by JVS
is able to win the states with the most entrenched party apparatuses in the primary! Will wonders never cease.

Oh wait, except for IL which is a big Democratic state with a highly functioning party apparatus that just happens to be one within which Obama has worked.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:32 AM
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119. The name is Barack, not Barry. That said, I think you are correct in your analysis.
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 11:36 AM by The Night Owl
Any Republican or swing voter support Barack Obama had was irretrievably lost when those videos of Pastor Wright came out.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:23 AM
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116. Just out of curiosity
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 11:38 AM by MattBaggins
If Hillary can not beat a greenhorn upstart with no experience how the hell is she going to beat a man with a lifetime of experience that overshadows hers by a long shot? She has proven herself incapable of winning by not being able to defeat Obama.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:54 AM
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123. Primary vs General - apples and oranges
n/t
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:33 PM
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20. No.
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 05:35 PM by Erin Elizabeth
Not even a little bit, especially now that he's picking up one to three superdelegates a day now.

I'll come back with a cool graph that lays it all out and is awesome.

Ok here. Apologies to whomever originally posted it:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:34 PM
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21. Not me. I have this gut feelingm Obama is going to win the GE.
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:58 PM
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48. And I have that very same feeling. n/t
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:29 PM
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61. my entrails speak the same language
when I poke them with a stick.

that abacas stuff is so unreliable. I go with guts. :)
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:34 PM
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22. Absolutely. As vice president.
:hi:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:35 PM
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24. No n/t
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:35 PM
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25. Go with your colon, not your gut.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:37 PM
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26. I do. It's not a "feeling", though. It's my considered opinion.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:39 PM
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27. That's my view too.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:40 PM
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29. why?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:36 AM
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82. Because as an Edwardian, I lean towards Hillary only by default.
Beyond that, it's just a matter of looking back at a year's worth of impressions (none are very favorable) of both candidates, neither of which I voted for or would vote for in the primary in my State (even though my candidate had dropped out by then) and seeing two very imperfect candidates and wondering WTF???? Is THIS the best this party's capable of after over 7 years of this neocon nightmare????
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:45 PM
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38. It would be extremely interesting to know the conclusions you base this opinion on.
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 06:17 PM by Spider Jerusalem
Superdelegate deus ex machina, because...? Hillary is not more electable, so that can't be it; she has run a far less effective campaign, so that can't be it; she is a far less effective fundraiser, so that can't be it; she has won far fewer votes, far fewer contests, and far fewer delegates, so that can't be it; she's less likely to help the critical down-ticket races that are necessary wind for a solid Democratic Congress, so that can't be it; she puts fewer states into play in the GE, and the 'big (blue) states' will vote Democratic anyway, so that can't be it either. So, just out of curiosity, what exactly leads you to form this opinion?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:40 PM
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28. NO with capital letters ! No way, no how.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:41 PM
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30. No, I was nervous before but not anymore.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:43 PM
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33. No
But that doesn't mean she doesn't have the right to continue her campaign.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:43 PM
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34. who knows?
I don't have that "feeling" and I'm not someone who goes by "feelings" but carry on.
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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:43 PM
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35. Mais non!
Absolument pas.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:44 PM
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36. Correct. The snapshot we have now will not hold.
His misspokements and downright bullcrap is being swept under the rug by the MSM.

The voters are not as easily duped.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:22 PM
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55. did you really say misspokements?
:crazy:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:49 AM
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84. yup
on purpose
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:23 PM
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126. on porpoise?
:rofl:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:45 PM
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37. Nope - I think she is this {........} close to dropping out
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:50 AM
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86. There's a rumor that Bomba is going to end it soon.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:49 AM
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109. Source?
If this is from that silly "Mike Francesca fan blog", please don't bother. It's a smear site.
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aquarius dawning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:45 PM
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39. No. But I do have the unshakable gut feeling that John McCain will be our next President.
Ready....Aim.....FIRE!!!!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:55 PM
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45. At this time I agree.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:47 PM
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40. Clinton's lack of money and delegates literally makes it impossible for her to win.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:00 AM
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97. and her lack
of any type of character makes it imperative that she lose
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:50 PM
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42. I feel like I'm in one of those horror movies where no one is safe
as long as the monst.... ahem, the dangerous creature is still lurking.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:52 PM
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43. Nope.
Did you have lunch at Taco Bell or something?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:54 PM
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44. No. She would have to pull some really crazy shit to get that to happen.
I just don't think it's possible at this point. But if, by hook or by crook, she somehow manages it, I'm going to vote for her against McCain. As sickened as I would be, there is no choice in the matter.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:56 PM
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46. "I remember landing under sniper fire" She is unelectable
Even if she could pull the nomination out of her butt, she can't win.

It's over.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:57 PM
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47. Not at all. Not in the least.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:13 PM
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49. Yes. It will be the story of the year, how Hillary came back from the dead

and united the party by winning the nomination. The momentum will be unstoppable.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:15 PM
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50. I don't see how. Who knows, though. It would be par for the course
for me to have to hold my nose and vote. At least I'll save money on campaign contributions. :-)
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:17 PM
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51. Might be gas.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:19 PM
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52. maybe it's gas
:shrug:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:20 PM
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53. Maybe
This Obama supporter is not counting her out yet. I take nothing for granted.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:20 PM
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54. Gut feelings don't work. Cold hard numbers do work. And the numbers favor Obama.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:22 PM
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57. me 2
This thought is totally consistent with historical reality.

The Democratic base as well as others have wanted to diminish the influence of transnational corporations, cartels and war profiteers on our representatives in DC for decades.

The internet has given us a window of opportunity to conduct an end run around these influences.

We usually lose...

maybe, "not this time."
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:24 PM
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58. Imagine a baseball team losing by 12 runs and it's top of the 8th
If you think that team that's losing by 12 runs can win the game, then that's certainly possible. But not likely. Hillary Clinton has about a 4% chance of being the nominee at this point based on delegates and the popular vote.

Obama will be our next President. Then we all have a lot of work to do.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:50 AM
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110. With the 7, 8, and 9 hitters coming up
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:27 PM
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59. you a Diebold insider? nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:28 PM
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60. YES!
HAHA! Made you look! :D
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:09 PM
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65. It feels like the movie "Duel," where Dennis Weaver's character is being relentlessly pursued by an
insane truck drive who got pissed off when Weaver's character passed him on a stretch of highway.

So, yeah, I kinda feel that "vibe" every once in a while. Still think Obama is going to be the nominee, despite it, though.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:10 PM
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67. not at all
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:45 PM
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70. I have just two words for you: Al Gore.
:rofl:
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:47 PM
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71. I've always felt I'll believe Obama will be the nominee only when it actually happens.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:48 PM
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72. Look this might help.....
I am the most pessimistic person alive... every step of the primary season... I have fretted over every single thing... I have been "sure" many many times that Obama was about to lose this thing... But ever since Wisconsin... I have realized... He can't lose... there is NO way Hillary will win this thing... the math just doesn't put it in the realm of possibility. The SDs are NOT crazy... they will NEVER overturn the results of the primaries....

TRUST me... She is toast. I promise. Take a shot of Tequila(or a glass of wine) and go to bed... you will feel better in the morning.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:49 PM
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73. NO
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:49 PM
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74. Considering that everyone else I've backed this season has lost
yeah.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:49 PM
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75. Oh - well - as long as you feel it in your GUT...
... (We all know how this sketch ends, right?)

Americans and their anti-intellectualism - two peas in a pod.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:48 AM
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107. Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't suggest that I'm putting any stock in...
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 11:34 AM by The Night Owl
...what my gut is telling me. What I wrote is that I have a gut feeling that Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic nomination.

BlooInBloo and his reading comprehension deficiency- two peas in a pod.
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:54 PM
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76. To quote John Cusack from Hi Fidelity
your guts have shit for brains
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:18 PM
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77. Extremely doubtful
The math doesn't work for her. If he's ahead in pledged delegates in early June, the bulk of the Supers will break to him. It'll be over then. Hillary's ship is sinking in PA. If she actually loses there, that pledged delegate break may come sooner.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:15 PM
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79. It certainly is in the realm
of possibilities.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 09:27 PM
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80. Hell no. Have a drink or something.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:44 AM
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83. I feel some kind of desperate, Bushesque, dirty tricks coming for sure, but
Ultimately, Barack will prevail.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:50 AM
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85. I think they had Wright in their back pocket, or would've.
And released in two weeks from now so his numbers would be damaged enough for the primaries.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:53 AM
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89. I read that everyone behind the scenes had this information, including
Hillary. She refused to go with it. Hannity did it.

Most likely everyone also knows there's more. Don't ask me what. I don't move in political circles.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:52 AM
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87. Not to a certainty. But I do get that dread feeling sometimes. nt
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:53 AM
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88. Dukakis. Mondale. Kerry.
I hope your feeling gets shaken, as does mine.

There is never anything false about HOPE.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:54 AM
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90. Hope dies hard.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:58 AM
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92. ^ ^ ^ Why Hillary is losing.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:07 AM
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94. Well, I've been wrong about everything else in this damn primary...
...so why not that, too?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 07:28 AM
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95. No. Just the opposite. She's becoming a little sad and pathetic. nt
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:04 AM
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98. Although the Clinton's are FAMOUS for pulling many rabbits out of the hat..
I really think that they've pulled as many as they can. This is really a situation where I don't see a win for them no matter what they do.

But, I can understand where your feeling comes from...we've seen them "on the ropes" about 5 times so far, and she's still running around the ring. Seriously hurt, yes. But still somewhat standing.

So, let's just say that I HOPE your feeling is wrong. ;)
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:05 AM
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99. I know how you feel.
My inner cynic won't shut the fuck up.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 08:06 AM
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100. I have been sitting on the fence, but I think Obama will win this
race... As long as he has not reached the magic number 2025, then by our rules, Hillary is free to keep campaigning.. She has put so much into her campaign, I say let her finish...
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:29 AM
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101. YES, I do
:evilgrin:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:35 AM
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102. Nope. Not only that, but I am also quite positive that, although I am not a
fervent Obama supporter, he's going to be our next President.:patriot:
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:36 AM
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103. If that happens, I'll campaign against her sorry ass and vote 3rd party. She's THAT bad.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:40 AM
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104. Well yeah, I do. Something will flip this race on its head. I do feel it.
Have for a while.

When it will come or what it will be I have no idea...well, a little bit of an idea.

I do feel it, tho.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:42 AM
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105. That would be best for the nation

Obama's not ready.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:43 AM
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106. You might want to check for diverticulitis.
Or it could be appendicitis.
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:49 AM
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108. I have the opposite feeling
I feel the tide has turned in Obama's favor. Every day it gets more obvious to more and more people, IMO.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:51 AM
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111. nope..
we, the people don't want her...

and since politicians #1 goal is to get re-elected...the SD's are going to go the same way..
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 10:51 AM
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112. Unless They Somehow
overturn it, ain't gonna happen.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:19 AM
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114. Nope, not me
Not gonna happen. No how, no way.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:20 AM
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115. The party will split if that happens.
I will walk away from the Democratic party if Clinton uses superdelegates to steal the nomination.

So will millions of others.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:26 AM
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118. This is exactly what Rove and GOP Buddies want...a Divided Party
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 11:27 AM by opihimoimoi
They promote it

They fund efforts to accomplish it

They know its one of their best options to sneak McCane in...
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:33 AM
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120. The nomination for what? Loser of the decade?
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:35 AM
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121. i have that feeling too
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:56 AM
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124. Only if she steals it.
And if there's even the hint of anything fishy, I hope Denver has a good riot response plan.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 11:58 AM
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125. nope. n/t
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