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NDambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:48 PM
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Campaign Alert: MSNBC: John Edwards will not accept VP job
if asked..wonder if someone asked him?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:49 PM
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1. He's already agreed to Attorney General?
:shrug:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:49 PM
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2. Probably no one. He wanted some air time.
I've noticed he makes noise every few days or so to get some coverage.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:50 PM
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3. lol....that's what I was wondering................
Was he even asked?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:51 PM
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4. I'd bet Hillary asked him.
I think Obama will probably go with Richardson. I didn't think John would take the VP slot again.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:51 PM
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5. Richardson would be a really bad choice.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:57 PM
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12. Well, you would say that wouldn't you
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:05 PM
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17. It's an opinion, please try to keep your hate in check.
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illumn8d Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:47 PM
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44. NM you answered it below
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 04:48 PM by illumn8d
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:04 PM
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15. Richardson endorsed Obama
burning all his bridges for a good reason....VP slot is my hunch.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:06 PM
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18. My opinion is that he wouldn't be a good choice. I would say the same if it were for Clinton.
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raincity_calling Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:10 PM
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21. Why don't you think he would be a good choice?
I don't either, but am curious what your reasons are.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:13 PM
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24. Because he isn't all that popular, or well liked. I think we saw that in voting.
Also, he isn't that popular in the Hispanic community here in Arizona and had been losing a lot of support in New Mexico when I lived there.

I just think he would be an awful choice.

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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:59 PM
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39. I wouldn't want Richardson either.
I know he has all kinds of experience, but I was not impressed with him in the debates. He was uncomfortable, unsure. Then in the thick of the Gonzales investigations, he said he wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because he's Hispanic, which didn't sit well with me. Then his whole "being gay is a choice" thing.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/2008_candidate_Richardson_says_being_gay_0810.html

I think he's a nice man, but... just NO.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:43 PM
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34. Why do you believe Richardson would be a bad choice? n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:01 PM
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13. Before this month, I would've said Richardson. Now, my money's on Webb.
Given how racial issues and "patriotism" have emerged as more important for the GE, the reality is Webb would provide perfect balance.

See --- http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/03/31/the-symbolic-case-for-webb.aspx
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:17 PM
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28. I think Webb would be a good VP choice for either candidate..........
But I don't know why! It's just a gut feeling that I have about him. I KNOW that he would be ready to step in and be a strong President if something happened to the elected Democratic President.

He would be firm, confrontational and highly unlikely to be shaken from HIS chosen path.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:51 PM
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6. Sadly, nobody was going to ask him.
Either of our candidates has to pick a foreign policy/defense VP, and Edwards does not fit that role.

And yes, he would be a freaking awesome AG.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:52 PM
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7. Maybe releasing that is a precursor to an endorsement.
No 30 pieces of silver and Judas comments.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:44 PM
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35. Hmmm...interesting possibility. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:53 PM
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8. Our chances in North Carolina just increased
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:57 PM
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11. ....
:spray: :spray:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

My react is.... :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:. After the way Cheney handed him his ass in the 2004 debates, he should never be in the running for the vice presidential spot again.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:54 PM
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9. They probably both told him they wouldn't choose him. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:56 PM
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10. He's right! Why keep doing the same thing over and over again
expecting different results? :shrug:

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LiveLiberally Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:03 PM
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14. Come on... do we have to be so snarky about this?
Edwards was asked at a news conference (having given a keynote address in Las Vegas) about whether he'd accept the V.P. slot. He answered "No." End of story. I personally respect him for that answer -- no fudging, no playing for attention. Just No.

I also think he'd make a great A.G.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:04 PM
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16. Me too...but, let's face it, he did nothing for Kerry except act like he was the nominee
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:10 PM
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20. He undermined Kerry. I lost all respect for him after he beat to his own drum in 2004.
Instead of doing what was good for the party. He holds no sway in his home state either.

He'd be a terrible VP choice.
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raincity_calling Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:13 PM
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22. I lost all resepct for Kerry
when he failed to challenge the 2004 election in Ohio. Edwards wanted to keep their promise to make sure all votes were counted.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:19 PM
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29. We've went over this before. There were not enough votes in OH that would have given Kerry
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 02:21 PM by NJSecularist
the margins neccesary to win the state.

Kerry's concession was the 2nd latest concession in the history of the America.

He did wait long. There was just nothing Kerry could do. Unlike Edwards, Kerry wasn't living in la la land.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 04:45 PM
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43. Who's "we"?
You just joined DU a few months ago.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:39 PM
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32. Question: How could Kerry challenge votes that had no Paper Ballot?.?.?
No one ever wants to answer this question. I ask it every time someone drags out that statement.

So, once again I'm inclined to ask: How could Kerry challenge votes that had no Paper Ballot?.?.?

I'll be waiting for your answer.


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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:13 PM
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23. And turn in a lousy performance against Cheney at the VP debate.
Where were his trial attorney skills? I was expecting a lot more for him and was quite disappointed. How the fuck can you not come out looking better than Darth Cheney? :shrug:
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LiveLiberally Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:15 PM
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25. I agree that Kerry-Edwards wasn't a good team....
but there were issues of trust on both sides. But I agree with you that Edwards isn't well-suited to the VP role based on what happened in 2004. Frankly, I don't think Obama or Clinton are either, so I don't personally wish for a "dream team" composed of any two of these three.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:29 PM
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31. Agreed n/t
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:08 PM
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19. I think he wanted VP, and only Hillary would deal. Obama wouldn't. And, he knows HC is losing.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:15 PM
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26. Who gives a shit about Edwards at this point?
I mean that in the nicest possible way, but really, Edwards is completely irrelevant now.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:42 PM
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33. I agree - if he wanted to make an impact, he should've acted long ago.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:45 PM
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36. An Edwards' endorsement about 2 weeks from now would have a GREAT impact!!
Can you say "Buh-Bye Hillary"?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:47 PM
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38. You mean if he endorsed Hillary? (I hear he's not too popular in NC)
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:21 PM
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41. You heard right. He'd be lucky to get elected for a city council in most of NC, and he damn sure
wouldn't get elected as a senator these days.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:16 PM
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27. Hahahahaha! LOL!!


I'm sure both Obama and Hillary are broken hearted.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:20 PM
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30. Very sad... I had hoped he would be Obama's VP and run in 2016.
Oh well. There are others.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:24 PM
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42. He wouldn't be a good VP choice for Obama
He is vulnerable to the same charges of inexperience. Obama needs someone like Richardson or Biden with a lot of foreign policy experience. Richardson is ideal, IMO, because he was a governor and UN ambassador.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:47 PM
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37. He would be a fool to accept and the candidate would be a fool to offer.
Edwards would be grilled as the "perennial" Dem VP candidate.

He would be pimping the fourth different campaign platform in as many years, diminishing his credibility.

And you can't run a campaign on change if you are running reruns.

No way Edwards was ever getting near the VP slot.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:59 PM
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40. I can find only one other case in the Democratic party where a VP nominee was chosen a 2nd time
I read the lists pretty quickly, but it looks like the last time a Democratic nominee was chosen twice for the VP slot was when Adlai Ewing Stevenson ran in 1892 with Grover Cleveland (won), and then again in 1900 with William Jennins Bryan (lost). (For the Republicans, it actually looks like two VPs ran twice-- Charles Warren Fairbanks and James Schoolcraft Sherman -- again this was at the turn of the century.)

That is more than 100 years ago.

You don't get to run twice for VP these days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Democratic_Party_presidential_tickets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Republican_Party_presidential_tickets
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