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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:14 PM Original message |
Clinton Release on Taxes |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. $52M for "speeches" |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Remember this is Hillary's campaign release. Lot of details missing, but still |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Hardball folks point out no details in these releases.Clintons said to be filing for 2007 extension. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. I'm sorry, but what detail is "missing"? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The post is based on the release. What are you suggesting? Honest! n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. the actual, complete returns were released |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Right, but what does that have to do with the post and your implications? n/t |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. it seemed to me that the suggestion was being made that information was being withheld |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. A lot of missing details from the release. It's a comment related to the release. Are you |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Of course the release doesn't contain all the details of the returns |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. The release could have included the $18 million to add up to the total. What's so hard about that? |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Not necessarily so... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yeah, but if the going rate is $300K, |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I'm sure he has been busy... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I'm interested in both! The $51.9 million in speeches is a little unbelievable! n/t |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. not really... not over the course of 8 years... 1 to 2 speeches/mo at goin rates for xPrez speech |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. "Just Words" ..........nt |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Most people in their 'bracket' were never PRESIDENT and a spouse planning to run for President |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. I guess she will never understand my monthly income and they |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Here we go: |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks for the info. |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. Clintons give to charity more than twice the percentage of BO and MO |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Ken Lay gave more than all of them combined. What's your point? n/t |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Not according to my fact check.. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Is the tax return for the Clinton Foundation? Also, $2.5 million is nearly 18% of $14 million. n/t |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. $14 million dollars took in by Enron and $2.5 given. Enron typically gave about 1 percent |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. What kind of math are you using? n/t |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. the math is already done.... BO gave 0.4% when he made over $250 thousand |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Clue: giving a percentage of your money to charity isn't a character flaw. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. remember in 2007 how she failed to disclose the CFF on her senate |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. MY point is that I make about $80,000 and gave |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. So, maybe your circumstances were different. This is a silly distracting argument. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Ah. The "percentage" framing. |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. 0.4% of their income when they made over $250 thousand dollars... |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. The Obama's were still paying back things like Student Loans |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
14. These figures contain only ESTIMATES for 2007 income, not actual figures. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. Last year's income |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. what awesome people to give that much of their income to charity. Obama gave... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Agree! Giving to charity is a good thing. Sciafe donated $100 million to Clinton's foundation. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. That is awesome that Bill Clinton got a million from Sciafe to help African Aids victims |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. So that makes Sciafe an awesome person, right? n/t |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Really? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Bill and Hillary's friends aren't good enough for you? n/t |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Yep. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
33. Clinton returns: Assets and liabilities |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Nearly a third of the money the Clintons donated to charity came last year during her campaign |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. $1 million of that was book proceeds earned in 2007 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. They also gave $115K on more than $9.5 million. Who cares? Their charitable giving isn't the issue. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
38. A pair of overpaid celebrities |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
41. Hmmm |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
43. "In doing so, the Clintons will incur a large capital gains tax bill for 2007" |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-04-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
49. Charitable contributions more than some people's salaries |
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chyjo (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. especially if they could be |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
54. Speeches! Just words?! No, just sellouts by Bill and Hill. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-05-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
55. Where would Obama's campaign be now if this was his family: |
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