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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 12:59 PM
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The Medical Industrial Complex HATES Hillary Clinton, & Medical Records are Secret
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 01:00 PM by McCamy Taylor
They are the ones who started the Clinton bashing in the early 1990s. They are the ones who funded the Republicans coup in Congress. Health care costs make up 15% of the GDP. Hospitals, drug manufacturers, makers of durable medical supplies, medical researchers, nursing homes, makers of ICU equipment---all these people are afraid that if Hillary institutes universal health care with an emphasis on disease prevention, the US will stop spending twice as much per person as the rest of the world for crappy over priced end of life in patient care and will start spending a reasonable amount for out patient care. They are also afraid that under Hillary, the FDA might actually start policing the pharmaceutical industry again and demanding that the health care industry take care of people instead of just letting them die. Government oversight, you know that old fashioned thing.

Hospitals are money making enterprises.

So, when a hospital attacks Hillary, it is the same as United Health Insurance attacking Hillary or Pfizer attacking Hillary. They are all in this game together. They want to keep a large segment of the US population uninsured, fat, smoking, sedentary and unhealthy until the age of 65 when Medicare will start picking up the tab for unlimited hospital stays, surgeries and procedures. That is what keeps hospitals profitable. Not disease prevention.

When people at DU cheer on the Medical Industrial Complex in its vendetta against Hillary, you are doing the same thing that they are, only you are doing it for votes for a candidate instead of money in a corporate pocket.

PS: How would Hillary have been able to get any more details about the patient? Medical records are secret from the public. How did the hospital release the record? Did the family agree to this?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:04 PM
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1. Clintons hate Open Government and THEIR protection of BushInc is the REASON for takeover of Congress
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 01:04 PM by blm
because no way on earth would the public have voted for Republicans in Nov 1994 if they knew the extent of the crimes and coverups of BushInc's involvements in BCCI, IranContra, Iraqgate and CIA Drugrunning operations.

Who screwed over the Democratic party, this nation and its historic record when they sided with the secrecy and privilege of GHWBush and his powerful cronies throughout the 90s?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:05 PM
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2. Yes, Terry McCarthy's PR firm invented 'Harry and Louise'. nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:07 PM
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3. WoW! You are in some serious denial
This was a not for profit hospital. Like all hospitals, they are just trying to keep their heads above water. Consider how much money hospitals lose on charity care for uninsured patients, it doesn't make sense to suggest they wouldn't want to see universal healthcare coverage.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:49 PM
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4. Yeah insurance/megapharm PACs are stupid and invest poorly
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 01:53 PM by crankychatter
is this the opposite game? what fun.

this is where her values lie (pun not intended)

"In 1994, Clinton set out to redesign the American health-care system and convened a panel that drafted its plan secretly -- in violation of federal law . . . The plan prescribed some eye- popping maximum fines: $5,000 for refusing to join the government- mandated health plan; $5,000 for failing to pay premiums on time; 15 years to doctors who received "anything of value" in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy; $10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork; $50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment; and $100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings . . . When told the plan could bankrupt small businesses, Mrs. Clinton sighed, "I CAN'T BE RESPONISIBLE FOR EVERY UNDERCAPITALIZED SMALL BUSINESS IN AMERICA."

When a woman complained that she didn't want to get shoved into a plan not of her choosing, the first lady lectured, "It's time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals." As for privacy, forget it: HER PLAN WOULD HAVE REQUIRED PEOPLE TO CARRY NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION CARDS WITH EMBEDDED CONFIDENTIAL PATIENT INFORMATION ON THE COMPUTER CHIPS.

During the first months of the Clinton administration, one of the biggest national policy changes of the past fifty years was being forged by a secret committee led by Mrs. Clinton under procedures that periodically defied the courts and the Government Accounting Office and whose public manifestations consisted of highly contrived media opportunities, carefully staged "town meetings," and similar artifices.

Despite the contrary evidence of public opinion polls, the concept of Canadian-style single-payer insurance was dismissed early. Tom Hamburger and Ted Marmor in the Washington Monthly tell of a single-payer proponent being invited to the White House in February 1993. It was, he said, a "pseudo-consultation;" the doctor was quickly informed that "single payer is not politically feasible." When Dr. David Himmelstein of the Harvard Medical School pressed Mrs. Clinton on single payer, she replied, "Tell me something interesting, David."

In other words, write Hamburger and Marmor: "Fewer than six weeks into the Clinton presidency, the White House had made its key policy decision: Before the Health Care Task Force wrote a single page of its 22-volume report to the President, the single payer idea was written off, and 'managed competition' was in."

If there was any popular, grassroots demand for "managed competition" it never appeared. Managed competition had not been tested anywhere. Nonetheless, reported Thomas Bodenehimer in Nation:

"Around Hillary Rodham Clinton's health reform table sit the managed-competition winners: big business, hospitals, large (but not small) commercial insurers, the Blues, budget-worried government leaders and the 'Jackson Hole Group,' the chief intellectual honchos of the managed competition movement. . . Adherence to the mantra of managed competition appears to be the price of a ticket of admission to this gathering. "

What was finally proposed involved a massive transfer of the American health industry -- by some accounts now larger than the military-industrial complex -- to a small number of the largest insurance companies and other major corporations. These were companies that had the assets to play the game being offered -- a medical oligopoly that would dispense health-care under the rules of the Fortune 500 rather than according to those of Hipprocrates.

Clinton's position on health care had bounced around in the early months of the campaign, finally settling on a policy that would leave the big health insurers largely unscathed. It was not particularly surprising. Max Brantley, columnist for the Arkansas Times, noted that "Blue Cross owns Arkansas, and never did much to fight them."

The stakes would eventually become so high that a number of the biggest insurers -- including CIGNA, Aetna and Metropolitan Life -- would leave the industry-wide Health Insurance Association of America. Five of the largest insurance companies formed something called the Alliance for Managed Competition. In this new game one of the first targets of 'managed competition' was the smaller insurance companies that now account for nearly half of the health underwriting business. Said managed competition advocate Lynn Etheridge, "Ninety-nine percent of the insurance companies are going to be wiped out because they're only prepared to be insurance companies." Mrs. Clinton, sounding like a 1980s takeover lawyer, said, "It's going to be a Darwinian struggle. Only the best and fittest of them will survive." Similarly, when asked how small businesses were meant to cope with the added costs of her plan, Mrs. Clinton replied, "I can't go out and save every undercapitalized entrepreneur in America."

Her interest lay with the largest companies, i.e. the ones with the ability to purchase or create the health maintenance organizations that would become de rigeur under the Clinton scheme. The new HMOs would be major profit-centers for companies, simultaneously subsidized by federal payments for the ailments of the poor, elderly and those without conventional insurance."

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