Obama Adviser Calls for Troops To Stay in Iraq Through 2010

Tell me again how Obama doesn't lie?

Source: The New York Sun

WASHINGTON — A key adviser to Senator Obama’s campaign is recommending in a confidential paper that America keep between 60,000 and 80,000 troops in Iraq as of late 2010, a plan at odds with the public pledge of the Illinois senator to withdraw combat forces from Iraq within 16 months of taking office.

The paper, obtained by The New York Sun, was written by Colin Kahl for the center-left Center for a New American Security. In “Stay on Success: A Policy of Conditional Engagement,” Mr. Kahl writes that through negotiations with the Iraqi government “the U.S. should aim to transition to a sustainable over-watch posture (of perhaps 60,000–80,000 forces) by the end of 2010 (although the specific timelines should be the byproduct of negotiations and conditions on the ground).”

Mr. Kahl is the day-to-day coordinator of the Obama campaign’s working group on Iraq. A shorter and less detailed version of this paper appeared on the center’s Web site as a policy brief.

Both Mr. Kahl and a senior Obama campaign adviser reached yesterday said the paper does not represent the campaign’s Iraq position. Nonetheless, the paper could provide clues as to the ultimate size of the residual American force the candidate has said would remain in Iraq after the withdrawal of combat brigades. The campaign has not publicly discussed the size of such a force in the past.

Read more:http://www.nysun.com/politics/obama-adviser-calls-troops-stay-iraq-through-2010

Also, he will be keeping a sizable security force in Iraq too.
Clinton and McCain would do the same thing too.

He can't really be elected on Iraq now.

a link....to nothing. For that is what Obama's words add up to and there are many of us who knew that all along.

He is as much a shill for the military-industrial-complex as anyone else, including McCain ( as in Obama saying, "he is not a warmonger" )as well as a shill for the health industry, to name another. He is as Democratic-lite as it can get.

I love the turn away from unpleasant truths all you zany Obaminations demonstrate. Gee, you're not cult-like in your avoidance of cognitive dissonance, are you?

A link to "nothing," but another Obama advisor saying something different.

Ruins the BS attempt to transfer one person's opinion to another doesn't it?

disagrees on others, with each of them.

You want him to be like Bush, where he only signs on people who agree with him on everything? Really now, don't be so obtuse.

Come on people this is 2008 already. We all have some education. Nothing will happen in a positive way until Inauguration.

isn't that the moonie newspaper?

Oh and from the article:



Seems this isn't Obama's position, but that doesn't stop the attempts to smear.

lies and distortions are all you have. Face it, your candidate isn't presidential material. She's finished. The american people see her for what she is and they don't like it.

Look it's really fucking simple
January 2009 his inauguration.

4 - 6 month planning and preparation
6 month + 16 month for his withdrawal plan = 24 month
24 month = 2 years

beginning of 2009 plus 2 years = beginning of 2011

He didn't say anything different !!!!

edit: typo

You are pathetic to post something from this source. First of all, is Obama allowed to have people on his staff with opposing views? Secondly, isn't 12 months from the inauguration 2010? I will wait for your brilliant replies.

In fact, I think I will kick this as a reminder of who got us into the war. Thanks; by posing as a HRC supporter and making it look like you are bashing Obama with a bogus source, you have effectually brought attention to the greatest foreign policy disaster in history. The one Obama was against and HRC supported. You are truly brilliant.

March 28, 2008

Amy Goodman Questions Sen. Obama on Heeding Iraqis’ Call for Full US Withdrawal

Following his speech on the economy at New York’s Cooper Union, Amy Goodman asks Sen. Barack Obama why he is not calling for a total withdrawal of US troops from Iraq in accordance with the 70 percent of Iraqis who say they want the US out.


AMY GOODMAN: Obama was speaking at the Cooper Union. I had a chance to briefly interview him as he was shaking people’s hands after he left the stage. I asked Obama why he’s not calling for a total withdrawal of US troops from Iraq in accordance with the 70 percent of Iraqis who say they want the US out.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/28/amy_goodman_quest...

AMY GOODMAN: Senator Obama, quick question: 70 percent of Iraqis say they want the US to withdraw completely; why don’t you call for a total withdrawal?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Well, I do, except for our embassy. I call for amnesty and protecting our civilian contractors there.

AMY GOODMAN: You’ve said a residual force—

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Yeah, but—

AMY GOODMAN: —which means thousands .

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Well, no. I mean, I don’t think that you’ve read exactly what I’ve said. What I said is that we do need to have a strike force in the region. It doesn’t necessarily have to be in Iraq; it could be in Kuwait or other places. But we do have to have some presence in order to not only protect them, but also potentially to protect their territorial integrity.

AMY GOODMAN: Can you call for a ban on the private military contractors like Blackwater?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: I’ve actually—I’m the one who sponsored the bill that called for the investigation of Blackwater in , so—

AMY GOODMAN: But would you support the Sanders one now?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Here’s the problem: we have 140,000 private contractors right there, so unless we want to replace all of or a big chunk of those with US troops, we can’t draw down the contractors faster than we can draw down our troops. So what I want to do is draw—I want them out in the same way that we make sure that we draw out our own combat troops. Alright? I mean, I—

AMY GOODMAN: Not a ban?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: Well, I don’t want to replace those contractors with more US troops, because we don’t have them, alright? But this was a speech about the economy.

AMY GOODMAN: The war is costing $3 trillion, according to Stiglitz.

will soon have very little to run on.
Obama is taking a stance on Iraq that is very close to what Clinton wants.
McCain, wants to "finish the job" and many know that we must keep a number of troops there to secure the region. 50,000 troops will stay in Iraq long term, just as we have them on the North Korean border.

can always say his plans were public before the election

like no social programs because as was told to Kudlow CNBC - Obama does not plan on any passing.

Like no threat to pull out of NAFTA - because as was told the Government of Canada - its all just campaign talk - pay no attention.

:sarcasm:

He wants to stay in Iraq an extended period of time and wants to leave as much as 100,000 troops in permanently, but, on the flip side try to paint his as the most liberal senator by looking at his voting record and issues. This, I think being a big issue, paint Obama as a liberal whom wants to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan for an extended period of time. Then in the next breath portray Obama as a flip-flopper by statements he made months ago about Iraq and that can he be trusted because he has changed his platform of issues several times during the campaign cycle?

in the other thread before it got locked..

Ahem, I'll start over. Obama has ties to Kadaffi and closer ties to Louis Farrakan. I did not know the article I posted earlier even existed until this morning. There is too much hidden about Obama's associations which need exposure sooner rather than later giving Obama the opportunity to clarify and explain if there is nothing to them. We can't afford a Dem nominee that will never survive the first round of RW attacks and have McCain elected as the default presidential choice.

pledges to take all troops out in his first two years in office. He has made a promise. Stop yourself please.