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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:45 PM
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Hillary Clinton on MI:"It's clear this election they are having is not going to count for anything."
"I personally did not think it made any difference whether my name was on the ballot. You know, It's clear this election they are having is not going to count for anything."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHRqi8nsvI

If you argue that Obama is "disenfranchising" the voters, that means Hillary was in support of disenfranchising those voters before the vote. She didn't care if her name was on the ballot, even!


So, did she change her mind after? Is that how it worked? Why wouldn't she say something to stand up to the "disenfranchising of the voters" beforehand, instead of supporting that disenfranchising with her statements?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:46 PM
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1. Why does Hillary want to disenfranchise Michigan voters?!?!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:50 PM
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2. Why does she try to disenfranchise any voter group she thinks she can flip delegates for?
Her tender concerns for MI voters ring pretty fucking hollow when she tries to turn delegates already chosen.

Anything for the win means NO SCRUPLES. We have had enough of that sort of citizen abuse from bush/cheney. Time to restore some integrity.
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:55 PM
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3. Everything Hillary says rings hollow, watch out for sniper fire!!!!
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 11:57 PM by DB1
the first 4 time misspeak on record. What happened to 3 strikes law?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:24 AM
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4. Thanks for posting this. Maybe we can dispense with the new
meme they're pushing...that Obama is somehow the one who doesn't want MI to count. Recommended.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:26 AM
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5. I agree
she only spoke up about it, because she was losing. Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, and part of Feb....she said nothing!
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:43 AM
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6. I have posed this before...unfortunately
the Clinton supporters will ignore that quote... then in the next post they will claim that Hillary has always wanted MI and FL to count and that Obama was stupid for taking his name off of the ballot in MI... Then if it is pointed out to them that Hillary said this... they ignore it and then start a new post about how Hillary cares sooo much for MI and FL...spin rinse repeat...
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:45 AM
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20. K&R
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:52 AM
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7. And this convinces people to vote for Obama how?
might convince someone not to vote for Senator Clinton but does nothing to secure that persons vote for Senator Obama.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:19 AM
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11. It defends Obama against the relatively serious allegation of being in support of disenfranchisement
of voters... because Hillary supported it too, it shows her criticism of him is not legitimate.
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:38 AM
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8. We're supposed to just forget about what she said.
They're just words.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 06:48 AM
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9. Because nominations usually don't go this far. But the GE everyone has a chance.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:22 AM
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10. They count. And she took 55% of the vote
against Uncommitted. Uncommitted ran a good race and was pleased with the outcome.

Julie--co-chair of the Committee to re-elect Uncommitted :-)
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:16 AM
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12. bump
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 10:19 AM
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13. kicking
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:22 AM
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14. bump
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:55 PM
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15. She was for disenfranchisement before she was against it. n/t
:kick:
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:58 PM
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16. I think Michigan had a pretty clear indication there vote wasn't going to count for anything.
One name on the ballot.

The rules from the Democratic Party were clear. They broke them knowing full well the consequences. If they want to have a vote that will count, it should be at the end of all the other primaries. And the state Party should pay for it.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:00 PM
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17. She can't be trusted.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 04:18 PM
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18. kick until talk about Hillary defending MI and FL against Obama is gone
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:29 PM
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19. kick
:kick:
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