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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:41 PM Original message |
Former New York Times editor Howell Raines on why John Kerry will not win |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. reminds me of the primaries |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not interested in anything the discredited editor of the NYT has to say |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Yup. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 03:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Exactly |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Did You Read the Article? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Do you know Raines? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Let me guess. |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Wrong |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 09:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. I cannot take seriously the suggestions of a man who denigrates JK |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Suggested reading on Raines' suggestions for JK from Digby via Atrios... |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Seems to be a well orchestrated talking point today..... |
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freetobegay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. So have many supposedly DUer's! |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. MoveOn.org has been pressuring for Kerry to share his "vision" also. |
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Scoopie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Bush has always been clueless |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'm not worried |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. That was because the dem neocons launched a character |
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Lefty Pragmatist (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Nothing wrong with the viewpoint |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. Kerry doesn't make his base happy like Bush. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 06:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Too many of the Dem core doesn't like Kerry. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. the primaries say otherwise |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 12:49 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. That pesky 'voting' concept rears its head again. |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
49. Blah, blah, blah.... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. Raines was, in large part, responsible for the decline in integrity of NYT |
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DaveSZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. True |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. Except.... |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. So, Because Kerry's Not Running Around Parrotting Some Idiotic Slogan |
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dae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
11. Raines just needs to take a deep breath and stick his head back up |
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LittleApple81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. Jerk. n/t |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
15. Howell Raines is yesterday's news (no longer fit to print) |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. Perhas we should remind Howell Raines |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Indeed |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-01-04 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'd prefer to believe that we shouldn't assume anything about the election |
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Merlin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
19. Raines is absolutely right. Kerry needs to sharpen his act. |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
22. I feel no nostalgia for Clinton's campaigning |
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union_maid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
25. It's the stupidity, stupid |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
26. Can anyone do a history tour |
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TexasSissy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
28. None of the Dem. candidates was charismatic & had message |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yup. The old Gray Whorse is shpwing her colors |
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jacksonian (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
32. whatever, notice Raines did lay out the Repug strategy |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Ranes only told us he's kissing W's a*. The Pope is Catholic - I know |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
33. Oh look, Raines just told the truth about the CORPORATE GOP MEDIA.... |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
35. That's pretty much what I've been scared of, but we'll pull through. |
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shivaji (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. No kidding...what is Kerry's message ? Does any one know? |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. A strong, energy independent, green America, with equal rights for all, |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Can't have equal rights for all if you don't allow same sex marriage |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 12:02 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. So someone either agrees with you |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 12:16 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Equality under the law is a principle that we must abide by |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Like I said, I agree with you. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 12:31 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. yeah |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 12:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Well put. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. Coming from Raines |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-02-04 11:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Coming from anything associated with the NY Times, past or present, |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-03-04 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
51. How can Kerry win by being a two dimensional candidate? |
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