Dean did not seem to be buying the whole "popular vote"

theory that is being floated around by the Clintons. He was on "This Week" this morning.

It's about DELEGATES...NOT popular vote :) Never HAS been..probably never WILL be..

Bill Clinton understood this, and used it well..TWICE.. It's too bad he did not teach HRH about it :)

was cheering on the electoral math thing again this morning

she "won" by 9..and most of that was because over 3 MILLION absentee & early votes were already turned IN befor Obama won Iowa...That's one reason i don't like absentee & early voting.. Many people absentee/early-voted for Edwards, too ..and he was out before CA..

That includes a knowledge that absentee and early voting are very real, and here to stay. Along with the dynamic of candidates pulling out of primaries shortly before election day, but after absentee/early balloting has begun.

Obama was hardly dealing with a unique set of circumstance in CA. It's one of the reasons you can't rely on late momentum. Give me early and established strength and I'll take my chances every time. Primary comebacks like Lamont and Obama are heralded on sites like this but they are also extremely flimsy, requiring everything to break your way. Hillary forfeited much of her edge via ignoring small primaries and especially caucuses, otherwise Obama probably trails.

I have no idea why early voting is criticized. On a ballot you have many choices, not one but not infinite, unless you more or less waste it on a write in candidate. So why shouldn't that translate to voting dates and times also? Early voting does that, providing a small window.

There's no reason voters have to desperately absorb every last second gotcha variable before deciding.

BTW, Obama wasn't going to win CA, regardless of early or absentee voting. That's a convenient crutch, and lack of real world mathematical application. It reminds me of a thread a few days ago here, asserting Obama has 90% of GDP support. The burden to that level is outlandish, significantly more than is generally accepted by people who don't deal with numbers daily. Try naming blocks that reach 90% or higher. Let me know when you reach 5. And just because Hillary supporters may have voted early doesn't mean they didn't have long established reasons for backing her, and would have switched late to Obama.

It does give more people the opportunity to vote and that is certainly a good thing. Early voting should probably start a week before the election.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Obama was down, hence the argument to cart the goalposts over to the projected electoral vote leader, but now its basically a big 3-way tie.

Were they both liars when they met or did one teach the other?

Except Hillary and supporters.

the rules don't favor them, silly.
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of the DNC instead of who the dlcers wanted or terry mcauliff. Someone like those tools could really be screwing with us now!

is trying to repaint it.

We elect delegates, not a candidate.

The public perception of what actually happens is not accurate.

primaries in the caucus states so those voters wouldn't be disenfranchised. The Clintons probably call that a "technicality."

even know what the popular vote is??

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Plus the popular vote leaves out the caucus states.