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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:30 AM Original message |
Poll question: Does Obama qualify as a "cult of personality"? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. If anything Hillary has the cult of personality. At least we don't call him a "goddess" |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I think the goddess of peace thing is metaphorical. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Obviously, given her vote for war, it ain't literal. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. here we go again with that. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. That's not the question. Is war a matriarchal concept? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
40. So Hillary lied about why she voted for war? She claimed it was the WMD, not the towers. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
74. you know shit |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
41. Your Magic 8 ball is seriously fucked up. |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
68. So, you actually believe that an illegal invasion... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Is war a matriarchal concept? |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Listen, I'm talking about cults of personalities here, not goddesses of peace or IWR votes. |
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Bongo Prophet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
43. As you said yourself in another thread, we are a bunch of "spellbound slaves" |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
44. tough toenails,dearie |
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Eric Condon (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. You call it "metaphorical," I call it "batshit insane, war-is-peace-level rhetoric"... |
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Alter Ego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
69. The way you phrased that made me shudder with revulsion. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
70. I think the word you meant to use was 'comical' |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
76. A goddess of peace who votes for war |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
22. You guys just produce posters of him looking like this: |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. His supporters make those. Not the campaign. Sorry your candidate isn't inspiring. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. It doesn't matter. It is still a cult of personality in that it represents the deification |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No. A cult of personality, per the wikipedia article, is |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Well, that still pretty much describes Barack Obama IMO |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:17 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. You have no evidence to support your claims and have now resorted to making shit up. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. It's a better reflection of Obama's character and I've made nothing up. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Nice. The sun rays clearly elude to solar worship which directly implies Jesus Christ himself |
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atal (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. That poster is awful!!! |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. I've heard obama supporters on DU call him "Godbama" |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. Obama called the "GODDESS OF PEACE"? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
3. As much as Hillary and McCain... called Psychological campaigns |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. No, and I love Living Colour! nt |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. Definitely!!!! |
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Bongo Prophet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
46. A record as thin as a wafer...hmm...a communion wafer! I think you may be on to something! |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
6. I think he clearly does by the definitions I read. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. "Create a heroic public image"-Like likening oneself to Rocky? |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I like the part about being the harbinger of change too and being the only one capable of bringing |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. His message is "WE are the ones we have been waiting for" NOT "I" |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Please, Change change change change change change. He's a broken fucking record. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Hillary actually SAYS she is the only candidate with the neccessary qualities to be pres. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I just pointed it out. read it again. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. He may imply that but she actually SAYS that. There is no comparison. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Imply my ass. "Change we can believe in". WTF is that? Cult of personality, that's what it is. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. No it's not. "Change" is not a person. Hillary: Ready to Lead. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. It doesn't matter. It's obama directly stating that he is the only person who can bring about change |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:11 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Hillary says she is the only one with experience, therefore she is the only one qualified to lead. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. She's going at this as if it were a job interview. Obama is going at it as if he were the 2nd coming |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
51. So Obama will be the next Adolf Hitler or Mao Zedong? |
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madwivoter (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
77. Goddess of Peace = Apotheosis |
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Asgaya Dihi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. In the context of the campaign, no |
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Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. After attending our caucus in Colorado, my husband and I were humming Living Colour's 1988 song... |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Why is that? |
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sudopod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
37. There's only one of him. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Don't bother. They've already made up their mind. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
39. Obama the candidate was able to come up with a powerful message |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #39 |
71. THAT is what this thread is really about... |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:17 AM Response to Original message |
45. Yes, and even the most objective media have noticed. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
47. Interesting concept. |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
48. Something new, bright and shiny... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
49. The folks who use the term rarely try to define it. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. actually, it was defined in the OP.... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. No, it wasn't. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. post #6, check it out. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Much better. But I don't think it applies. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Nearly half of the people voting do which is saying a lot actually |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I mean, how could we measure the devotion of Obama supporters... |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
55. Yeah the goddess of peace nutcases are the cultists |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I heard that Godess of Peace thing once from John Stewert & a couple of times here on DU after that |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I never heard Jon Stewart say goddess of peace. |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I don't know. I thought it was John Stewart. Perhaps it was Leno though |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
60. Yes, He Does.... |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. He is also running on people's |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
63. Are we wheeling out the "cult" meme again? |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
64. Hmmm... |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
65. Look at his posters, you tell me. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
66. Awww... and a few staunchly-unobservant Hillary supporters just yesterday |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
67. Absolutely. Rember the video of an entire room full of Obama backers who couldn't name ANYTHING |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. .. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
72. Is\was Bill Clinton? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
73. Nope. Just a politician. It's only his haters that try to make him into a fiction character.... |
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