Obama on CNN Live at 8:15pm in IN - will talk about "elitist" comment ... link.....

will msnbc show it ?

I hope he verbally thrashes Clinton but he'll probably stay on the high road.

unlike hillary, he actually has some dignity and integrity. she's sadly lacking in both.

the way they are "all over him" at the same time for comments on "division within the party" made at a fundraiser FIVE (5x) days ago? :wow: If I didn't know better, I'd think that HRC and McCain are as thick as thieves ... it's deplorable. :(

Even the damn Clinton News Network (CNN) during Lou Dobbs had the words "Obama Slams Small Towns" ... this is such bullshit. He was explaining the bitterness of people in small towns but he was NOT SLAMMING those people.

I'm so sick of this "gotcha politics" from HRC, McCain and the GOP in Pennsylvania in general.

I'm THRILLED that he's addressing this at 8:15. Let's consider K & R and keeping this kicked up?

Go Obama! We've got your back. :patriot: :hi:

and I'm glad we're getting a chance to see him for what he really is.

He uses a veneer of arrogance and lofty rhetorical skills to give people the impression he's very bright. Manipulating people isn't the same as being intelligent.

These kinds of faux pas show Obama isn't as bright as people would think, he's just good at controlling his message.

Yes, let's all instead, revert to Junior High School tactics of "gotcha?"

It's going to be very difficult for me to even LIKE Senator Clinton in the future because she jumped on and accused Obama of being "condescending." IMO, HRC is all about "condescension."

I'm so sick of these THUG-LIKE tactics where a person has to FULLY explain something that, if taken in context, is fully understandable.

I HATE THE MEDIA MOST, especially CNN. I know what to expect from FOX but CNN blows chunks. :puke:

If by the Grace of God, Obama becomes our Democratic Nominee, nobody can say that he was NOT fully TESTED. :grr:

her devious attempts will not work, this will just give him the spotlight...and he will use it to show how hillary betrayed working americans by supporting the bankruptcy bill that the credit card companies were salivating over. Her attempts to conceal from the people of Ohio and Pennsylvania her long support for NAFTA while her mouth keeps telling us that she was always against it.

:rofl:

Do you make these wisecracks up on the sly?

Nor did his wife get $800,000 from Colombia.

He just shoved it into Hillary and McCain and left them looking like Dumbass's .... Checkmate Obama


"of course they're bitter, of course they're frustrated"
"nobody is looking out for you, nobody is thinking about you."

"it took John McCain 3 tries to notice that the foreclosure crisis is a problem
and he says I'm out of touch".

Hitting Clinton on Bankruptcy bill - "and I'M out of touch?"

People are angry and bitter and frustrated and thats why I'm running.

He needs to take this one on the road. It's a winner.

:eyes:

Mark Penn is still getting paid. When Obama was asked about Bill Clinton's Bosnia statement today, Obama said that he would let the Clintons explain it.

Clintons have PROVED their loyalty - deep-sixing BCCI matters throughout the 90s without many citizens noticing? Now THAT was worth the trust of the Dubai and Saudi royals - and worth the tens of millions they are putting into Clintons' bank accounts these days, too.

:D

It's in progress right now according to CNN.com/live

I'M FUCKING WATCHING IT

This is fucking sad also what is up with Chuck Todd. I just saw him on Keith and it seems he gets giddy to put Obama down. I noticed this a couple of weeks ago but thought maybe it was my own bias.

but on CNN on TV the anchors are still bashing him for the remarks. :eyes:

I only get CNNI and it's not on. But I saw the Situation Room and they were great about it. Toobin, Borgia and Cafferty came strongly to Obama's defense.

the media makes me so fucking sick. Every word he says is so true and full of complicated adult stuff. CNN refuses to cover his speech and just want to tear him down for a sentence he made about bitterness. Grow the fuck up assholes.

But it applies. It's not like he's gone off his game with the "Bitter" comment. He's been speaking harsh truths. America doesn't need to have smoke blown up it's ass. We need to get to work.

they won't cover his speech so people can't hear him and instead are fed bullshit by the ratings and $$$$$$$$$ chasing anchors of the corporate media.

He's going right after them!!! GOFUCKINGOBAMA!!!

Then he listed a few things they are out of touch with. I was cheering so loud I missed all the details lol.

Thanks for the update.

What did he say? He better have a good "explanation" because he is toast as a general election candidate if he doesn't. This isn't in isolation. There is 20 years of Wright and his "typical white" comment. The ads write themselves. :scared:

He's explaining why, and who, and what he plans to do about it. Things a leader does.

And from your post it seems he is ignoring the aspect that really will damage him.

he clearly explained everything. Rural voters are voting against their economic interests because Democrats and Republicans are both falling short on their promises to fix things (hence the bitter part). So they vote on others (cling to) issues like guns and religion (abortion, homosexuality, etc).

:sarcasm:

for decades and those promises never actually come true (paraphrasing), it doesn't get better so people vote on other issues - guns, gay marriage, and they take refuge in their religion and family because those are the only things they can count on AND people are bitter and frustrated with the economy, jobs, wages, etc. He is in touch with people in Penn and Indiana and Illinois ... People are bitter.

He did not run away from the bitter comment. Frankly, people are pissed now and it is ridiculous to say they aren't.

Stay Vigilant!!!!

Remember not to be swayed - Not this time!!!!!!!!!!

He's fucking spot on. :bounce:

(half kidding)

In all seriousness consider the audience. These are hardcore Obamites. Also don't mistakenly view this as racial. There are minorities in small towns and minorities who believe in religion and own guns too.

Of course true believers are going to think he hit a home run. In actuality, if what I read is accurate, he didn't answer the fundamental issue. This has nothing to do with Clinton or McSame. The question is simple: is Obama out of touch with common folks, or even worse bigoted toward them?

your about as out of touch as hillary if your expecting that.

you cant call obama a bigot and expect to be treated seriously.

and frame the story, but you're full of horse shit. Where did Obama refer to anyone has a bigot?

Is part of Obama's "change" making bigotry in general, not just homophobia, acceptable to those who erstwhile opposed it?

You can't speak directly to Joe Hardy or Nancy Drew. You have to talk to groups of people. Stop acting dense.

and talked NON-Stop thru out this part.

One thing thou, his friend is 18, registered to vote, and inquired about Obama playing on my computer. He said he liked Obama, till he learned he does not put his hand on his heart for the National Anthem.

He left the house factually informed and smiling.

from now on. He is fired up and the audience went wild when he took them both on. He is the one in touch with the people. Lord it was good!

MoJoWorkin'!

When I talk with people there is frustration and there is anger and there is bitterness. I was in SF talking to a group at a fundraiser, and someone asked me, "how are you going to get votes in PA, we heard it's hard for working class people to get behind your campaign."

They've seen their jobs shipped overseas, their economies collapse, they've lost their jobs, they've lost their healthcare, and of course they're bitter, of course they're frustrated - you would be too! In fact many of you are! We've seen the same thing happen in Decatur, the same thing happen in ___, because the same thing's happening to YOU, and (people have given up on getting any help from Washington - paraphrased, missed that part) so you see them voting on guns, on the right to bear arms, the right to gay marriage, they vote on their faith issues, they (vote on these issues because they've lost faith in getting any change on the economic issues - paraphrase).

Now here's what's rich. Sen. Clinton says, "I don't think people are biitter in PA, Barack's being condescending," McCain says "he's out of touch," Out of touch? It took him (months to notice that people were losing their homes, and he says I'm out of touch? - paraphrase).

Sen Clinton voted for a credit card sponsored bankruptcy bill after taking money from financial services industry and she thinks I'm out of touch? No, I'm in touch. People are angry, they're bitter, they're frustrated and they want to see a change ion Washington. That's why you're here, because you want to see change. That's what this campaign is about. We said we're not going to take PAC money, we're not gong to take lobbyist money. How did we do it? We did it with you, (in small donations). And that's why you know I'm accountable to you.

Go Obama! :patriot:

I would if I could. :hi:

:silly:

:hi:

I'm out! :shrug:

He really did hit that really well - I would imagine that some of the people who have had a hard time will appreciate him actually admitting that there is a problem - in a way, praising people and telling them their communities have no problems - when they do has to just seem phony compared to this.

:hi:

on CNN if he was just speaking truth to the powerless?

we don't have a problem with the comment! It is ridiculous and only something they are trying to divert his support in PA because they (Clinton/McCain/Repub's/Corporatist s) are all trying to defeat him! They know he is winning!!!!

Obama supporters are saying it ain't working this time!!!!!!!!!!

NOT THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They stream all the rallys.

During Lou Dobbs, that damn subtext remained there for almost the entire hour.

He was at a regularly scheduled campaign rally.

It was damn smart of Obama to "nip this in the bud."

Clinton, McCain and the Pennsylvania GOP all came out at seemingly THE SAME TIME trashing Obama for being "condescending and elitist." If I didn't know better, I'd swear that this was a well orchastrated attack from all three working together. :thumbsdown:

Good for Obama for geting ON THIS right away. :applause:

it during THAT. And he knocked it out of the park.

I think they SHOULD carry speeches like this LIVE because otherwise all we hear is commentary by biased anchors about stupid shit all day.

http://www.cnn.com/live/

They carry a lot of the speeches and meetings. You can even set a reminder to you email.