Unlike Obama, Hillary has bent over backwards to try and endear us to Rural America

not alienate them.

Her track record in NYS speaks for itself, and she has continued to focus on the problems of rural America during her campaign. For example, just ask almost any farmer how hard she's worked on their behalf, and not just them, but among all the other country folks, too.

You don't go winning General Elections in this day and age by alienating Rural America, not with the lopsided advantage they have in the Electoral College System.

NY is more than just NYC. Buffalo/Grand Island/Niagara Falls loves her.

Monsanto, ouch! Perhaps the most harmful and unethical business in the world. Not the friend of rural America.

First, Buffalo and Niagara Falls are not rural. The are metropolitan industrial/post-industrial hell holes. The latter being an absolute nightmare. I've never seen a city pile a mountain of garbage smack dab in the middle of itself. Even Scranton, PA had the good sense to push it off to one side. Grand Island might be rural given a liberal interpretation of what rural is. The farm my grandfather grew up on has long since been subdivided and the ferry landing where he worked is now a waterfront Holiday Inn. If it is indeed still rural, it won't be for much longer.

And second, by "loves her," I suppose you mean they voted for her. I think they tolerate her because her GOP opponents, Lazio and Spencer, were uninspiring shit on a stick. Her promise to bring 200,000 jobs to western NY has resulted in one major company moving to the region that then turned around and outsourced 80+% of its jobs to India. Job growth rates are some of the lowest in the state and the nation. And she has plenty of excuses.

Don't get me wrong, the economy of upstate NY is not Clinton's fault. It turned sour long before she got there. But one of her key campaign promises to upstaters in 2000 was economic turn around and she hasn't even come close to delivering. And now she's telling PA that she alone has the answer to their economic problems? Yeah, right. Fool me once...

Because I was there last fall.

Erie, PA loves her too.

and then it goes on to list much of what she proposed....

http://www.senate.gov/~clinton/news/statements/record.cfm?id=271662

The date on that says March 2007, she was running for President.

And where was the first place in the nominating process?

Iowa. Not good enough.

Next.

Wonder how the Illinois folks who live in small towns feel about his insults?

Do they have grass there or not?

and Obama is clearly not the elitist that Hillary and Bill are trying to paint him as. Sorry that you failed to understand the point - obviously I needed to make it more clear for the devisive partisan hacks to understand.

Mtnsnake did. And the only evidence was a bill from when she was running for President, and running in Iowa.

And by the way, I come from rural America.

I know what Obama said, and I'm not trying to twist it.

Anyone who lives or has lived in a small town knows what life there is like. Obama spoke the truth. Hillary has insulted their intelligence by painting a romanticized picture of life in small towns.

And its a good sensible policy, showing she cares about improving these areas.

Where is Obama's platform to help rural America.

New York Times - April 12, 2006
Company Finds Clinton Useful, and Vice Versa

Corning Inc., one of upstate New York's largest and oldest employers, has supported Republican candidates for so long that its chairman once joked that it had not raised money for a Democrat since 1812.

But since Hillary Rodham Clinton was elected to the Senate in 2000, Corning and its mainly Republican executives have become one of her largest sources of campaign contributions. And in that time, Mrs. Clinton has become one of the company's leading champions, delivering for it like no other Democratic lawmaker. "She's there when you need her," said Amo Houghton, a former Republican congressman and the brother of Corning's chairman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/12/nyregion/12hillary.html

and yet.....

Corning to lay off as many as 160 people
October 29, 2007 by Larry Rulison, Business writer

Owens Corning in Bethlehem says that it could lay off 140 to 160 workers in the near future.

He said that last Thursday the company informed employees at the plant about the shutting down of the line, although no layoffs have yet been made.
“The exact number and makeup will be communicated soon,” Saragian said.

http://blogs.timesunion.com/business/?p=2327

Who woulda thunk it.

This is why a long campaign is good, we get to see who the new kid on the block really is.

This is why it's a good thing she is still in it and will eventually win the nomination. She's our only hope of beating McCain because you just can't win an election by alienating rural America.

everyone in rural Nebraska loves her :sarcasm:

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And I bet they will take Hillary in open arms for helping Bill to get it passed.

Nothing like having a rich old lady sticking up for people she's already screwed over.

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Hillary doesn't support NAFTA, but I think you know that. Then again, maybe you only read DU. lol

Oh, not NOW, that I'll agree with.

But she DID, the records of her as First Lady prove it.

And Im not willing to take a chance that Hillary isnt lying NOW about NAFTA just to con the gullable, and would happily go right back to being the same free trader (traitor) Bill was once she's conned her way back into the WH.

Its not my fault you cant see the kind of person she really is.

... to support NAFTA, she doesn't support it. Just like the war in Iraq.

tires in her backyard.

we don't need jobs,
we aren't bitter over that little ole war based on lies,
we don't want a candidate who can get a health care bill passed,
we don't want honesty from our candidates, that wouldn't be smart Clinton style politics:

We don't want a candidate who is pessimistic.
We want a candidate who will FEED US ALL CAKE!

HillaryLand is FantasyLand.

corn liquor in jugs, beer-bars, & mud-encrusted pickup trucks with gunracks :rofl:

Is THAT where she's been spending her time trying to "endear" us to???

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she's a liar. A panderer. A repuke like piece of work. And we rural folk in Vermont think she's full of shit.

That's precious. Most of the people I personally know from Vermont don't hold that opinion of her, but I'll tell them how wrong they all are when I talk to them next. lol

She lost even in my town in the Kindom. She got resoundingly beat througout the state by double digits.

and while Vermont favored Obama heavily in the Primary, it doesn't mean that they hated Hillary or that everyone in rural Vermont thinks she's full of shit, as you stated above, cali.

and many people here don't have anything good to say about either Clinton.

Get over it. ;-)

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sounds elitist to me!

What's the difference? Why does he think one group is worthy of help and not the other?

...tells the candidate who just paid off his student loans literally just years ago and who has NEVER taken lobbyist money, that he's out of touch? That he's elitist?

Give me a break. Bullshit.

hope that they don't remember your promises after you are elected? Bill did the same thing.

She has focused much of her time and energy into rural areas. That is a fact.

...and because Gore wasn't president, she was completely ineffective.

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Yes I know it was held in DC and not a rural location. I also know it was held at the lobbying firm Troutman Sanders Public Affairs. Just because they lobby for Monsanto, which is NOT a friend of rural Americans, does not mean she doesn't understand how to endear herself to rural America. After all, she did use the word "Rural" in the title for her luncheon.

fyi

...by supporting "free-trade" agreements that have decimated rural America.

It is pandering when she claims she will fix health care through a big giveaway to insurance corporations.

Nice try but that belongs in the Propaganda Groups

"We all know the record of the DLC, the Progressive Policy Institute and, of course, the Clinton-Gore Administration. The economic recovery plan stands first and foremost as a testament to both good ideas and political courage. National service. The Brady Bill. Family Leave. NAFTA. Investment in science and technology. New markets. Charter schools. The Earned Income Tax Credit. The welfare to work partnership. The COPS program. The SAFER program. All of these came out of some very fundamental ideas about what would work. The results speak for themselves. Those ideas were converted into policies programs that literally changed millions of lives and, I argue, changed America."

"I think, on balance, NAFTA has been good for New York and America."

The Associated Press reported on 3/6/96 that she said, "NAFTA is proving its worth" and later praising NAFTA as "a free and fair trade agreement."

In her memoir, Clinton trumpeted her husband's "successes on the budget, the Brady bill and NAFTA."

In 1998, Bloomberg News reports that she praised corporations for mounting "a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA.

When did she decide NAFTA was bad?

I guess it's my fault posting quotes from Hillary Clinton as evidence of what Hillary Clinton believes. Obviously, Hillary Clinton hates Hillary Clinton and is just making shit up to make Hillary Clinton look bad.

Shame. On. Her. Hillary. Clinton.

after lying about her positions to herself
she better hope she doesnt throw herself under the bus
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He/she/it just did the magical Hillary doublethink thing.

What kind of actions has she backed up her words with?

and don't you forget that! I cringe to think of all the favors they'd have to repay should they get the opportunity. Luckily, that ain't gonna happen. :smoke:

Is that what they were doing with DOMA and DADT? (Since rural America seems to have a bit more distaste for gays than the city folk)?

and of all things, backing up their nonsensical claim by posting a link to another DU thread. LOLOLOL!!!!

than she didn't bend over backwards, she barely visited theses states.

for itself and Hillary should use the words of that great NY orator and tell it to "STIFLE".

Paul in Camillus

Didn't NYS lose over 30,000 jobs during her two terms?

Didn't she promise to bring 100,000 new jobs to upstate New York?

I'll tell you right now, Rural American WILL NOT vote for Hillary if by some strange twist of fate she becomes the nominee.