The Crowd let out a groan when Clinton brought up bitterness

Ron Allen just reported on Msnbc that the crowd let out a groan when Hill brought this up, I guess we are not the only ones getting tired of this story.

boy is SHE bitter that she's not just being handed the nomination that she thinks she's entitled to.

with a beer chaser?

That goes along with my latte sipping. Also, I like brie cheese and quiche, and I make apologies to no one. :)

...if you endured horrendous sniper fire.

Clearly, the woman is traumatized.

Poor woman.

Hi, TwoSparkles :hi:

I served and was under water to the tune of 1000 feet or more and was not traumatized.

Got a service disability I am receiving excellent care through the VA and other than the disability in an off it's self I do not feel traumatized.

I do feel however taken for granted by most politicians.

When it is time to vote I am expected to anti-up and vote.

After that I am expected to remain quiet while the oh so smart politicians do the governing that people like me are way to unqualified (IE stupid) to accomplish.

And then they wonder why when they contact me and talk to me this election cycle they are amazed that I am cynical.:banghead:

dupe

I hope she get the same response every time she brings it up. People see right through her.


Peace:thumbsup:

That's because it's a stupid, media-generated non-controversy. The media and Hillary want people to get all riled up over nothing.

at a clinton rally?

Its not a rally, its a metting with a union or something that Obama just talked to minutes before.

...and NO reports of him being booed by them!

Did you guys read the speech he made? It's brilliant.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBpbT

what when you strip the BS away did either of the Clinton's ever really do to help labor??:shrug:

a fat lot of good that did??

:sarcasm:

The Alliance for American Manufacturing is a labor-management group composed of the United Steelworkers and steel manufacturers such as U.S. Steel. The group is largely concerned with Chinese trade practices that it holds accountable for the loss of 15,650 Pennsylvania jobs per year.

Mr. Obama talked about his roots working with steelworkers as a Chicago community organizer and plans to pressure China to regulate its currency. "America and the world can benefit from trade with China. But trade with China will only

Hillary's promise to continue outsourcing our jobs to India, and her $2.5million from an India corporate "gala" fundraiser in NYC:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5470049

sponsored by the Alliance for American Manufacturing which a non-profit, non-partisan group whose goal is to strengthen US manufacturing.

Local news coverage here:

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/15874896/detail.html

Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 11:23 AM by Divernan
Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

In Pittsburgh, Obama says it's Clinton who's out of touch
Steelers' Rooney endorses Illinois senator
Monday, April 14, 2008
By Timothy McNulty, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Andy Starnes/Post-Gazette
Sen. Barack Obama speaks at the David L. Lawrence Convention Center in Pittsburgh on Monday.Sen. Barack Obama began his remarks to the Alliance for American Manufacturing today by greeting his "good friend" and Steelers chairman Dan Rooney, and later deflecting criticism of his remarks on "bitter" Pennsylvania voters.

"You know, there's been a lot of talk in this campaign lately about who's in touch with the workers of Pennsylvania. Sen. Clinton and Sen. McCain seem to be singing from the same hymn book, saying that I'm "out of touch" -- an elitist -- because I said a lot of folks are bitter about their economic circumstances.

"Now it may be that I chose my words badly. And it's not the first time and it won't be the last. But when I hear my opponents, both of whom have spent decades in Washington, saying I'm out of touch, it's time to cut through their rhetoric and look at the reality," he said at a speech this morning to a labor-management group at the David L. Lawrence convention center.

The Illinois senator said he has been a Steelers fan since he was 10 years old. He said they are a "favorite" team of his, though he has "to root for the Bears when those two teams are playing."Despite that, the Steelers chairman released a letter endorsing Mr. Obama. "As a grandfather and a citizen of this community I think Barack Obama's thoughtful, strategic approach is important for America," the letter addressed to"fellow Pennsylvanians" said. "When I hear how excited young people seem to be when they about this man, I believe he will do what is best for them, which is to inspire them to be great Americans."

He had to have known Hillary would stumble badly over this. The more they see, the more the American workers can conclude who is really out of touch with their needs.

I don't get MSNBC. Thank you.

they were going to hear from an upbeat Hillary let out an 'audible groan' when she went into her Obama rant.

the video, like three people in the front row "groaned" in agreement with the speaker and the reporter says the person was booed.

and they were groaning at her, not with her.

Much like Homer Stokes, she may have misread her audience.

...that labor is BITTER over things like NAFTA???

it just shows that she has no idea what kind of audience she is talking to.

out of discomfort. Not exactly a boo by pretty close.

....both Clinton and Obama were speaking before some Union gathering.

Clinton got booed...and there was no applause...when she made her cheesy remarks about Obama and his use of the word bitter.

However...when Obama spoke...at several times, he was cheered loudly along with strong applause.

Too bad you cannot deal with the truth.

i did not see it and doubted the original report, so insult me

Sheesh....care to lie about anything else. :eyes:

Don't make assertions without the whole story if you can't take it when someone disagrees with you. In fact, don't post on a political discussion board at all if you don't like give and take because someone is going to refute your points.

That is an insult, not a disagreement. People can be civil and disagree. I remain so. Maybe others won't, but that won't stop me from being so.

That's the way I see it. And it did appear that you went with what you wanted to believe rather than what the facts might be. So how far off was the comment?

...you state you had not seen it and, yet, give an opinion. Exactly how is that dealing with the truth of the matter?

LOL...

The truth is often distorted in the MSM, you should know that.

....it's your position that they distorted the tape to put in the boo'ing when Clinton mentioned the "bitter" remark?

:eyes:

All I heard was that a reporter said something happened. I have heard a lot of reporters say a lot of things and many times, especially in politics, they exaggerate or get it wrong. I questioned the original report, that is all.

This primary has been divided by would could be considered opposing perceptions.

Hep,, you did insult him
samuel,, you took a position out of bias.


get over it.

It wasn't out of bias, it was out of previous experience. I remembered when it was reported that Edwards was booed at some event for something (not a debate) and he was actually getting agreed with by the audience. That is why I questioned the first report.

...I did not insult anyone buy telling them that the truth hurts.

If I insulted someone....trust me....you would know it! :evilgrin:

BAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

...reminds me of Bush Jr supporters,and that is NOT a good thing.

vs. someone who watched telling you what happened. yeah that's so rude :eyes:

Buddy, you can't handle the truth. You think truth is rude.

Heaven forbid one questions news reports before believing them. The part that was rude had nothing to do with the story, but the insult levied at me for having the gall to question the original report.

the facts offend you?

that's just sad

She could have been gracious & made herself look golden by making a remark such as "I believe Senator Obama has answered this question & nothing further needs to be said" but no, had to go for the cheap shot. BTW, she got booed by everyone.

dg

It's sad to see Democrats spin like the pros.

but thanks for putting words in my mouth for no good reason

...and she looks like the fucking fool she truly is.

...are you dizzy from that spin...:eyes:

and started blasting clay pigeons from the lectern. PULL!

:rofl:

....I just spewed latte on my keyboard! :rofl:

:D

:thumbsup:

She'll be putting on the pads and going to St. Francis for some pre-season workouts.

And that's what scares the shit out of the the status quo politicians in Washington with their special interest friends who would rather die than see real change. Saying people are bitter is populist, not elitist.

but she still tries to go farther.

And it wasn't for Hillary's comments, it was due to Obama's slamming there guns, religions, etc. That reporter needs to buy a CLUE. :rofl:

It was a Labor crowd and they are tired of this issue, Obama just spoke to them before her speech.

but I'll check it out before commenting. Thanks.

because MSNBC did not actually show the clip

And yes he said, along with the other two, that the BOOS WERE DIRECTED AT HILLARY. Nice try though. Peace. :hi:

on edit: to clarify.

msnbc just played it again

...they cheered and clapped like hell for him when he spoke...so they could boo his remark when HiLIARy spoke.

:eyes:

it wasn't a groan it was a loud boo that interupted her presentation. Did you really think that they would never get to showing the video?

par for the course for liars ehhh? :shrug:

Overall, among all voters nationwide, McCain is viewed favorably by 54% and unfavorably by 43%. Obama’s ratings are 48% favorable and 50% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 46% favorable, 51% unfavorable (see recent daily favorable ratings).

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Why is she still running?

(I gave up after a while)

She keeps talking as though she is the only one offering solutions and no one else has anything to offer (except speeches).
I didn't hear all of Obama's, but I got the distinct impression that the applause was more frequent and more enthusiastic.

Oh, and she said Bill made a mistake in signing NAFTA...

She just said that what the Chinese can't buy from us they will steal from us. Way to go, piss off another country (and the one holding our pursestrings)--there are ways of talking which convey similar ideas but diplomatically.

Now this is not an exact quote, but she started out with something like,

"Well, you know, as smart as my husband is, he DOES make mistakes."

HilLIARy is making a total and complete jackass out of herself by pushing this kind of faux outrage.

yet she's far too stupid to understand that rovian attacks on Obama are the primary reason that she is getting trounced.

...Even Bush Jr and Karl Rove, in the height of the political campaigns in 2000 and 2004, didn't sink to race-baiting and racist comments.

Hillary should be proud: She out-Roved Karl Rove.

Our Party, however, should be mortally ashamed.

and brought up the issue himself, and I heard cheers, loud applause, even a few whistles, when he turned it back on both of them, mocking the fact that he's the one "out of touch". This was before a Union crowd, and they seemed to be very receptive to him.

It was pretty quiet for most of Clinton's speech--I thought they might have been using a filtering mic with her. I did not hear any groaning. Have to wait for You Tube.

Hillary throws battery at opposing outfielder during Phillies game to show her blue collar appeal.

Developing...

She does that its over...seriously it worked for Ed Rendell with Iceballs at Cowboys.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/14/888068.aspx


Looks like the union crowd agrees with Obama.

a working steel mill in the area and meet the steelworkers. It was the mill my Dad and Grandfather retired from (Edgar Thompson Works in Braddock).

Any old timers still around from the early 1980's can tell Hillary about "bitter" if she'll listen.

they censored Obama's best lines and just play blips out of context

they censored out the boo's and groans, obviously

I know cnn is probably even worse

...http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5470049

:toast:

"But could today's response, from a large crowd here in Western Pennsylvania indicate the argument of Obama as elitist may work well with her supporters, but not with the broader public? Or is it, as NBC’s Andrea Mitchell reports, per the Clinton campaign, an organized effort in the crowd by Obama's union (SEIU) supporters."

If the Clinton campaign blamed the reaction on Obama's people, we can at least agree that it happened.

:shrug:

there is no doubt about this one

...that outsourcing to India will continue, and her first priority as president will be to further cement U.S.-India relations.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5470049

Sometimes crowds "boo" what's being said, in agreement with the speaker, and not the speaker. I'm not trusting the video I've seen because they cut away before the thought is finished so you can't tell if the crowd comes back with applause. This is one way video can very easily be taken out of context.

...the work of Obama plants.

NGU.

:thumbsup:

:kick:

Keep it up Hill. Some people are bitter.