HRC: "I believe the potential for life begins at conception," Rovian playbook 101.

"I believe the potential for life begins at conception," Clinton said

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/apr/08041407.html

Democrats on Abortion: Only "Potential" for Life Begins at Conception

By John Connolly

GRANTHAM, Pennsylvania, April 14, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both tried to downplay their positions on abortion at the Compassion Forum, a nationally televised event at Messiah College on April 13. (more)


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Hillary is obviously taking a page from the Rovian handbook on word-parsing with this weasly little meme. And she's using it for what she does best: Pandering.

It's another untruth to go with all the others, and she's showing her cards, again. And they're all the same suit: Elephants. Elephants with clubs.

You can't sidle up to the edge of the old Lifer's slogan ""Life Begins At Conception" and avoid backlash by slipping in something as innocuous as "the potential for." This is classic B* weasling, if ever I heard it.

"Life Begins At Conception" has been on posters and banners for decades. This is not another Bosniagate, is it? Or, does she think this innocent little surgical editing will go unnoticed?

She's adopting some of the code words that B* has used with these people for years. He's been feeding them a line of bull in public with just these kinds of little quips, made seemingly off the cuff, un-scripted, un-edited. Right.

But here's what George and Hillary have in common: She has no more intention of following up these words with actions, or, certainly laws, than George does.

This is exactly what makes her a whore. Randi is right. She'll say or do anything to satisfy her greed for power. She thinks she can steal a few votes from Barack with this little dance to the right. She's a sellout, always was, always will be. She's McCain in pantyhose.

What would be odd is if she started acting like a progressive, a liberal ...
even a DEMOCRAT!

There must be some sort of legal ramifications here.

another keyboard ruined. :rofl:

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Furthermore, The Family takes credit for some of Clinton's rightward legislative tendencies, including her support for a law guaranteeing "religious freedom" in the workplace, such as for pharmacists who refuse to fill birth control prescriptions and police officers who refuse to guard abortion clinics.

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Sharlet generously attributes Clinton's involvement to the under-appreciated depth of her religiosity, but he himself struggles to define The Family's theological underpinnings. The Family avoids the word Christian but worships Jesus, though not the Jesus who promised the earth to the "meek." They believe that, in mass societies, it's only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God's "dominion" on earth. Insofar as The Family has a consistent philosophy, it's all about power--cultivating it, building it and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or "cells." "We work with power where we can," Doug Coe has said, and "build new power where we can't."

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

At conception there is a POTENTIAL life. Not a life. But a Potential life.

A potential life cannot exist on its own - outside of the womb. It relies on the women to live and stay alive - the potential life certainly does not have any rights.

The woman carrying the potential life has rights - not the group of cells within her.

God forbid, on my wife's deathbed, if the choice was between my wife (an individual) and the potential life (not an individual), my wife's life comes first.

You can sort out the statement and it says nothing threatening or incorrect, but it is clearly designed for one purpose - to get some of the so-called pro-life vote. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing depends on how far you trust the person speaking it. Would she really sell out, or is it just gamesmanship for another percent or two of the vote?

divisive, polarizing issues that ultimately affect an individual.

For example, those those who oppose all abortions will not accept a pro-choice abortion option.

Another such divisive, polarizing issue is the right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear handguns for self-defense. Those who would ban all handguns will not accept a pro-choice handguns option.

I kill millions when I masturbate!

"I believe the potential for life begins at conception," Clinton said. "For me, it is also not only about a potential life. It is about the other lives involved.…I have concluded, after great, you know, concern and searching my own mind and heart over many years…that individuals must be entrusted to make this profound decision, because the alternative would be such an intrusion of government authority that it would be very difficult to sustain in our kind of open society."

She also said she would "continue to do what I can to reduce the number of abortions."

Obama was unable to give a positive answer on his views about when life begins at the forum.

and she was distinguishing her position from the position that life DOES begin at conception.

The idea that Clinton is anything less than 100% pro-choice is just ludicrous.

I believe the potential for life begins at conception," Clinton said. "For me, it is also not only about a potential life. It is about the other lives involved.…I have concluded, after great, you know, concern and searching my own mind and heart over many years…that individuals must be entrusted to make this profound decision, because the alternative would be such an intrusion of government authority that it would be very difficult to sustain in our kind of open society."

She also said she would "continue to do what I can to reduce the number of abortions."

Obama was unable to give a positive answer on his views about when life begins at the forum.

Pander. Pander. Pander.

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Said a leading Presidential candidate.

But running as a Democrat.

I'm sure this is a complete anomaly and a totally isolated event.

I say this as someone who has campaigned for women's reproductive freedom, and as the male participant in two pregnancies that were terminated following mutual agreement, very painfully arrived at, between my girlfriend at the time and myself. I don't like to see this issue trivialized and sound-bitten.

I don't care for a lot of things that come out of Clinton's mouth, especially these days, but I have no quarrel with her on this. It's 20 years since the first abortion I was personally involved with, and it still haunts me, and I expect it always will.

Was it murder? No. Did it terminate a life? No question. This is a moral dilemma for many people. It was even more of a moral dilemma for my Italian Catholic girlfriend. It was hard the first time, because I wanted to have a child and she didn't. It was even harder the second time, when she wanted to have a child and I didn't. We both suffered terribly, she - unquestionably - much more than me.

Clinton is not mistaken here, IMHO, no matter what has appeared on posters and banners for decades.

My 2 cents, anyway.

Earth to Hillary? Do you read me? :wtf:

bizzare

the potential for life is inherent in conception. And Hillary Clinton is a staunch supporter of abortion rights. I hate stupid shit like this.

NGU.

It certainly looks interesting.

:popcorn:

Hillary's making it hard to keep the smears straight.

They're both pandering.

I don't feel a need to call him Hagee in pantyhose.

when they call someone they don't know personally as a whore. Makes me wonder what kind of evil peoplen they are? I would never say Obama was a whore even though he said he believes in creation and he believes in evolution which is two direct opposites.