Revealing responses to CNN ticker on “Bitter” Democratic fight

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comments

Surprisingly the overwhelming number of respondents responded positively to Obama's comments about bitterness at the way they have been unable to get their government to pay attention to common people's problems instead of following the special interests. There were some from Obama and Clinton supporters who were pitching their point of view, some who thought it terrible, some who didn't think it would matter, but the surprising majority of voices were people who seemed relieved to have a chance to express their bitterness at what is happening to them or their neighbors or their towns - many giving their full names and towns:


Here are some poignant examples



Phyllis Des Jardins April 14th, 2008 4:38 pm ET

I am a degreed chemist who spent four out of 5 years unemployed. My husband is a degreed computer programmer laid off 6 years ago who could not even get an interview in his field. He is now a bus driver, and the pay is not enough to live on, but at least we have insurance. We were forced to live off all our retirement savings when unemployment ran out. We sold our house to avoid falling behind, and lived on the proceeds for another year. Now we rent. It’s all gone. My health fell apart, largely from the stress, but we couldn’t afford the copays for the doctors. Our kids had to pay our utility bills.

Faith is the core of my life, church is it’s manifestation. When things fell apart, yes, I embraced the church with a vengence. When the fear set in, we bought a gun because our feeling of security was gone. It has not returned.

If Obama’s oppinions about this get him in trouble, than the whole nation has the worst case of denial I have ever seen. Hillary doesn’t get it, McCain doesn’t get it, but they haven’t been there. None of you on CNN seem to get it either. Wake up!

I dare you to publish this.

Phyllis
East Hartford, CT


Karen in Maryland April 14th, 2008 4:19 pm ET

Barack Obama has truly been a gentleman in this campaign thus far. He has had the amunition of Clinton’s ongoing pattern of lies to exploit but he did not. He mispoke and clarified his words but it is painfully obvious to see that the huge deal she and her supporters are making of this is to distract from her husband resurrecting the issue of Bosnia. I hope the people of Pennslyvania can see through her lies and smoke screens


NJ Cummins in Philadelphia, PA April 14th, 2008 4:18 pm ET

As a fence-sitting moderate voter who grew up in the small town of New Freedom, Pennsylvania i can say that Obama’s remarks are dead-on and paint an accurate picture of the frustrations that exist in small-town America.


Gary Riverside, Ca April 14th, 2008 4:15 pm ET

As far as I am concerned Obama’s “bitter” remarks will not harm his candidacy at all as I am one of the people who are “bitter.”

I am “bitter” about the way George Bush has led this country to near ruins and bitter because the democrats haven’t had the backbone to do anything about it since they regained power in Congress.

I’m also “bitter about the fact that the rich and affluent have made tremenous gains while the middle class has had to bear the burden.



Judy Waddell April 14th, 2008 4:33 pm ET

I guess I don’t get it…How is it that when Senator Obama makes “truthful statements” regarding America he gets raked over the coals but when Hillary Clinton makes “mis-statements”, she barely gets her hands slapped, and laughed at. America needs to know the truth in today’s times, even if it hurts. I do believe that Senator Obama is right when he says that Americans are “bitter” and frustrated, I totally understand where he is coming from. Senator Obama is not out of touch, he has hit the nail right on the head, he has “walked in our shoes” and understands the word “poor”, and working class and small town America need to wake up and support him all the way to and through the Whitehouse.



Pat Greenan (please omit my last name) April 14th, 2008 4:36 pm ET

Senator Obama is simply looking out for the average middle-class American who is being hurt by the ridiculous cost of the Iraq war. I hail from a small manufacturing city in upstate New York and know for a fact that Hillary Clinton did next to nothing for the depressed economy in upstate New York. I now live in Indiana and heard Barack Obama speak last week. He is the only candidate who will bring necessary changes to to our country and who will remember the middle class once he gets to Washington. His comments are being exploited by both the Clinton and McCain campaigns. This is called dirty politics. Clinton is the one who is bitter because she is losing.


reg April 14th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

Sen. Obama’s comment about blue collar middle class citizens being bitter is”hitting the nail right on the head”. I am a middle class American citizen, and dont know any of my peers who are not angry and bitter about our current status. We don’t need someone who made $100+million dollars in the last seven years, telling us everything is rosy, and the streets are lined in gold. These people are the ones out of touch, and should talk to the real people who struggle to pay at the gas station, or rent, or food. We have seen jobs shipped oversees due to corrupt trade agreements, and politicians who promise the world then screw us when they get in office. I don’t know anyone who lives in the real world who is not bitter and suspecious. At least Obama is trying to tell it like it is!!!


shelia April 14th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

bitterness is what will get the presidency for obama. call it anger , tiredness, fed up, sick of,had enough of ,throw in the towel, dicouraged, it all means the same these days. lets all be honest, how do you feel when you are filling up the gas tank. bitter would be a good word. I fits how I feel, and all of the above.


Sue Seaton April 14th, 2008 4:34 pm ET

Dear Jack, I come from a small town in southern Illinois in which my husband and I had both worked at a plant for 32 yrs. when suddenly they announced in 2004 they were moving work elsewhere. I can admit there were those same bitter feelings that Barrack is talking about amoung us 300 workers at that tool plant. He’s the one that is telling it like it is and is in touch with the people that have gone through this type of situations. I most certainly turned to my faith in a very desperate way and prayed my husband and I could find work elsewhere. He knows what is going on and I really think there was nothing but truth in what he said! I’ve been there I know! Sue


Howard, Bolingbrook IL April 14th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

I’m 60 years old and out of work for the first time in my life, because my ex-employer shipped my job off to India. I’m bitter and mad.

I realize OBama isn’t speaking for everyone, but he is speaking for me


Derek April 14th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Well since there was a faith forum last night I’ll sum it up like this. When Senator Obama called voters Bitter, in church we call that stepping on your toes. In other words The Truth Hurts. We are Bitter and thats putting it mild. When I go get gas here in PA I hear people cursing up a storm at the pump. So to hear people say we aren’t bitter I guess if I made 109 million dollars I wouldn’t be Bitter either. I think that everyone is bitter and I think all Senator Obama did was point that out. I think if you liked him you really like him for saying how we all feel. If you don’t like him you use this as a lame excuse. We are bitter we are angry some of us are PISSED


michelle April 14th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

He’s right. Obama’s right. We are bitter against our government. We’ve lost so much faith in the system. There have been so many lies and cover ups it’s not even funny. Politics have been all about dishonest people stepping on everyone they have to, to get to the top. We’re promised the moon and the stars and all we get is a small rebate check that might pay for a month of gas. We need something to hope for in this awful time of war and recession. I’m sorry but all this bickering and fighting amongst our politicians aren’t going to get us anywhere. I’m actually tired of hearing them argue about things that really don’t matter.



John Musewicz April 14th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Why wouldn’t blue collar voters be bitter about the Clintons’ NAFTA consequences? The fact that we all cling to the familiar, like family and church, when bitter, angry and frustrated is very human. Instead of taking responsibility for her actions that have contributed to the recession (like the expense of the war she voted for without reading the intelligence reports), does Senator Clinton think she can disguise her failures by criticizing the messenger who describes the bitterness to which her actions directly contributed?


Sharon Wright April 14th, 2008 4:14 pm ET

Jack I have already registered my opinion of what CNN is doing with the “bitter” comment….and frankly I believe it to be shameful. So I hardly expect to see my comment here on air. But I fell it important to reiterate…the comment was spoken as you would expect from Barack with honesty. And if the American public want less then they should vote for Hillary



Ron Christman
Barack Obama gets it and those of us who are living it appreciate that he does no matter how hard the media and opposing politicians try to distort his vision. You and his opponents like to talk about how well he speaks but what you miss is that he listens even better. Barack Obama doesn’t just listen to the words when he is talking with people; he hears the feeling behind the words. Barack Obama doesn’t just listen to one or two sentences but the whole story. That is the reason that he is the one candidate who gives us hope that our long felt bitterness about our leaders in Washington will go away as change really happens.

Get out your map of Pennsylvania and I’ll show you where you can go to find out how much Barack Obama understands about small town working class people. He understands exactly how the guys feel in Beechies Bar in Meadowlands when they talk over a beer about the machine shop jobs being shipped overseas. He hears the bitterness. He knows where the former coal miners who meet on the street in Washington are coming from when they avoid talking about their current jobs that pay one-third the salary of their former jobs. He hears the mistrust of government. Obama knows what the college graduate from Mount Pleasant thinks about the $60,000.00 in student loan debt she is facing with her fiancé as they realize their options for the future are much smaller than they hoped. He hears the disappointment when they talk. Obama knows how the family feels about their college student who has to pay his own expenses because his parents had to close their family restaurant and now his father is fighting cancer with no disability income. He may not have heard the same stories that I have but he has listened well enough to the stories that he has heard that he knows the true underlying feelings.

WHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Now the more uh, 'excited' hillary supporters will maybe start with something else to snivel about..


Snivel isn't sexist, is it??


:headbang:


:patriot:

You can feel it especially in the comments by people who left their full names. They wanted someone to hear that they work hard and can't understand why their lives are so marginalized.

I am so proud that Americans are finally waking up to the fact that the MSM is actively brainwashing them into what to think. Americans are not stupid, but how can you protect yourself from something that you are never allowed to see? For example, the close ties to big corporations which the DLC and the Clintons have cultivated for 25 years. Hillary expects to hide in plain sight, just like all the other "New Democrats" who care more about Corporate funding that relying on the unreliable Labor and Populist wings of the "Real Democratic Party"

We are heading towards very serious times. Genetically Modified (GM) crops have been fed, and are being fed to us in undisclosed amount, yet by law, of which the Clintons are also complicit, are not required to be identified. If you get sick from the GMO Corn, Soybean, or Canola, you have no means of tracking it to the source. Our food supply is drenched with Roundup and other pesticides. The trade deal with Columbia include Billions of dallars in funding for the continued spraying of illicit crops for the benefit of a drug war started in the late 70's, after Monsanto lost its biggest market for Agent orange and the US Military. The spraying program has been going strong for nearly 40 years, and we are paying for it.

Out of all of this, the Corporate spin machine can't obfuscate the past dealings of the Clintons. It is their greed, and "Win at any cost" mentality that has made Hillary Clinton as much of a Lame Duck as George W. Bush.

Hillary Clinton, the Lame Duck Candidate.

Genetically Modified (GM) crops have been fed, and are being fed to us in undisclosed amount, yet by law, of which the Clintons are also complicit, are not required to be identified.

GM food is not harmful in any way. This is a bogus concern. However, if people are going to be concerned about it, there's no reason not to put it on the label.

the studies to prove GM crops are not harmful in the long-term have not been done. you are the guinea pig for those studies.

plants. Oh, right. There aren't any. Enjoy the modified food. Maybe you can be a new study on a new form of cancer.

I operate a medium sized facility that utilizes boilers for heat. Recently rain and snow melt have caused turbidity in the public water supply. The Department of Public Utilities has been adding large amounts of alum to the water to control this. If not for the water treatment engineers who service our reverse osmosis systems finding this to be plugging our filters, we would never have known. There have been no stories on the news and there won't be.

Want to stop by for a cup of coffee?

There is no evidence that GM crops are harmful. This doesn't mean that they aren't. Thus using labeling allows both the smart an dumb alike to make their own decisions.

Honey Bees thanks to GM and pesticides and possibly cell phones.

My brother in Missouri used to make a six figure salary working for a well known company, designing computer programs for the company. He was first let go & kept on as a consultant without benefits, then finally his job went overseas and he is now making a fraction of his former income doing home improvements because the other companies have also sent their high tech jobs overseas or brought in workers from other countries at cheaper wages.

Is he bitter? You bet!

As a long time Republican he recently told me he hates John McCain and would vote for Obama. He also said he hates Hillary Clinton and would hold his nose and vote for McCain if she were the Democrats nominee. He blames NAFTA on Bill Clinton and thinks Hillary's a liar and her campaign has totally turned him off.

I wonder how many other Republicans are also bitter?

As to Florida, I know a lot of Democrats & Republicans that are totally pissed off over the housing nightmare and it's impact on the Florida economy. I have not met one single person that has said they support Hillary Clinton. A few support McCain, most said they would vote for Obama as they think he has less ties to lobbyists and corporations than the other 2.

Because they want SOMEONE to hear them. Precious few people in Washington do.

Thanks for posting this, grantcart! Really appreciate it! Reading some of those comments just broke my heart.

"The ladies from The View played the WHOLE speech and hearing it in context there was nothing but truth in it! "

CoolB-)

Proud to recommend this. :thumbsup:

I don't understand how Democrats of all freaking people do not get this!

It's beyond shameless that some are so caught up in their support of another candidate that they don't see the real human side to this suffering

Some people need to concede this for the sake of their fellow countrymen and women. There is plenty to be bitter about over the last 7 years, some would say longer.

It doesn't mean that they should stop supporting their candidates race for the nomination or presidency, but not recognizing the real human component here is beyond comprehension.

Thanks for posting this.

In my opinion this should have 50 recs.

But what the fuck do I know?

I cant believe i was incredibly absorbed by the people across Penn. and how many of them finally see hope because Obama gets them when no other has. These people really, really have been neglected when you read their stories and i think Barack Obama is something very special for America and needs to be President in 2009.

Incredible stories and thanks for posting this....Greatest page for you!
Just blown away!

this shows that people do get it! :thumbsup:

for themselves.

This includes people who are in fact bitter for many different reasons.

If a person is not bitter, angry, frustrated over the last 7 years at least, then either they haven't been paying attention or they truly support Bush.

OR another possiblity is they are so blind by their support of another candidate that they can't see the plight of our working and/or unemployed electorate.

As I stated earlier, this point needed to be accepted as reality for many Americans, and not misconstrued for political gain.

I frankly don't give a rats behind, if anyone continues to support Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain, but it is inhumane IMO to not see the truth in all this.

or clinton spin. they are the same entity these days

I guess I am rather sensitive now after going there and reading all of those dreadful stories.

I'm heartsick right now.

And it deserves a hundred more.

These are people who are hurting, both physically and mentally. They have lost jobs, but more they have lost the ability to protect their families, to give to their children, and to be comfortable in their coming years.

So many politicians are under the impression that they only have to pay attention to these folks every four years, tell them the same old tired lies like "I will listen to you and help you" and then forget what they promised as soon as the pictures are taken. They live in their own little world of multiple houses and 100million dollar incomes. They have no use for the plight of the working class. As Babs Bush said about the dead troops, "I don't bother my beautiful mind" about such things.

Obama seems to 'get it' even when the other two don't. I am hopeful that he can carry these folks' plight with him all the way to the WH and make their dreams less dark.

over and over and over again.

I got it before just from my own experience with bitterness, but after going there and reading more, I am just at a loss for words.

Have you actually gone to the thread? Oh my goodness, the suffering all across the U.S.

There are just too many people with closed minds and blind to truths staring them smack dab in the face. I'd like to have faith that this is not true but am very cynical...please prove me wrong.

An educated bitter-man voting for HOPE.

it was OVERWHELMINGLY pro-Obama. If this is a true representation of how people really feel about this latest dust up, Hillary is truly toast, in spite of the Pravda-like efforts of the corporate press to keep this primary going.

I also thought it was interesting that the pro Obama comments seemed genuine and heart felt, while the ones against him seemed to ring hollow and non-substantive. We'll have to wait another week to see if the way PA turns out mirrors this sentiment

:kick:

I wonder just how many truly working class folks actually log on there?

There has to be some means to get the truth out there...probably not via the MSM.

I don't think there's anyone on TV that's more biased towards Obama than Jack Cafferty. Oh yeah, Olbermann. He probably beats Cafferty in the Obama suck-up department.

You have lost your humanity. I'm sick and tired of this false outrage over his statements of truth. If anyone is bitter, it's those who don't see how middle class Americans are suffering and...yes...BITTER!

BO was speaking to a crowd in SF of all places ... He was preaching to the choir and talking about "small town folks". He was speaking to a crowd that would obviously eat up these comments (about religion & guns) I think it is funny that all he is doing now is back-peddling when he has to face real midwesterners instead of his fellow elitists.

Go ahead, back-peddle BO ... eat them words! :spank:

Another republi-CON Charlie Cheapskate. With a heart like a BB.

NO WONDER people are bitter! It comes from decades (since reagan) of living out the CONservatives' dreams. They've now had their chance to run the lab experiments, and try social engineering their way, with their Reverse Robin Hood schtick. And their ideas have been applied long enough by now to be proven abysmal, in fact near criminal failures.

We've tried it your way. Give it to the rich. Cut taxes and regulations. Let corporations and big industry run free!

And

LOOK

Where

We

Are.

The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding's gone cold. And it tastes terrible. It tastes - well - bitter.

And for all those trusting souls in Middle and small-town America who believed so desperately in the nice soothing fairy stories told by that kindly old uncle ronnie long ago with his cute, crooked smile and gentle voice - the taste is VERY bitter indeed.

NOBODY likes being had. The bitterness, I think, is a signal that some of those who've been had are starting to wake up and realize it. And that's how they feel now, as a result: BITTER.

And Barack Obama is the only guy who's actually talking about this stuff. Shit. Maybe that's his thing. He did it about race a few weeks ago. Confronting difficult and touchy subjects head-on. Which is what we need to do as Americans, to grow up from this fairy-tale -turned-nightmare. Everybody else still wants to dodge and deny. And here comes ONE guy, for a change, who won't play.

Man, when they say he's a breath of fresh air, they're not kidding. And thank God he's arrived at a time when we're nearly suffocating to death.

What makes you think we've bought into the Reaganomics?

I think Hillary is a better candidate. You know CLINTON?

We in the midwest don't like being patronized. BO's comments in SF were very condescending. That's all ... and I think BO-knows it too! (or he wouldn't be back-peddling so much)

That I speak against "The Annointed One" does NOT make me a Reaganite! Not-so-fast! (or are you falling into the Bushy "You're either for us or against us" mentality? ... Maybe you're the NeoCON!

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Wasn't that supposed to be Hillary?

People turn to religion in times of crises. Political strategists manipulate the embittered with wedge issues they can identify with.

I think the condescension is in the Polyannaism shown by Clinton and McCain. "I only see people who are optimistic!" Really?

again

He didn't have to, because he was speaking the TRUTH.

religion and guns, but for some reason that's all certain people want to talk about. wonder why? I'll tell you, because the entire sentence completely waters down their fake outrage.

Obama is right on point. and the eletist shit ain't selling, so shobve it up your arse.

Obama was responding to a question as to why he wasn't doing as well in small town US as in other places and he tried to explain. It was not trying to make anyone eat up anything. This was a closed door session with Obama supporters. He was TELLING THE TRUTH. If you can't stand that, then he is not the candidate for you.

wow, talk about categorizing people. Are you really under the impression that everyone in SF is a rich, elitist snob? I live here and most of us are hard working people trying to get by in one of the most expensive cities in the U.S. There are people here who own guns, work blue collar jobs and OMG! Go to church!!!! Wow!!!

Obama knows this - he knows that there are all types all over. He speaks to a lot of us in an adult fashion and we "get" it. He's not a snob, he's telling it like it is.

By the way, gas was up to $4.10 this morning in SF. And yes, it hurts!

I agree with dana_b

The City allows parking in the middle of the streets for Sunday services in church neighborhoods. C'mon by and see all the godless "elitist snobs" showing up for church services, all over the city.

Seventy percent of San Franciscans rent their homes. Pretty elite bunch to hang out with, hey what? OR, if you want to believe the New York Times, "80 percent of San Francisco's residents are tenants." http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9504E3D9173FF935A35755C0A9669C8B63

In my job, I spend my day all over the city. I see predominantly working-class people, dressed in casual or work clothes, trying to scramble and make a living. Just like in Upstate New York and Indiana and Michigan. I've lived in those three states. I know what I'm talking about.

No, our streets aren't filled with people in Fred Astaire clothes sipping latte and champaigne. Sorry to ruin your misconceptions, dork.

And, yeah, these people are from all corners of the world. They get along, for the most part, and they're welcome here. You got a problem with that?

So if you want to cram the snide narrow-minded lies about our City into your dense little cranium, I won't stop you, dude. But don't come here spouting them and expect to get away with it.

Neither the midwest nor the east have a lock on the bitterness. We other ordinary folks here in Northern Cal are having the same rough times as the rest of you. Our jobs have gotten scarce. We also, by the way, pay MORE for gas than you all do. I'm just grateful I live in a food belt or we'd be starving next.

Obama speaks for US because he speaks TRUTH. This is something Hill and Bill would not know if it bit them. I've had enough of LIARS in the WH. It's time for a big change...

GOBAMA!

Obama knows the middle and lower classes have been screwed under the elitist Bush and pandering Clinton regimes, their "base" as they put it.

Read the subtitle to this book and you'll see that the corporate crowd has taken their ideology too far by half,

The Great Awakening: Reviving Faith and Politics in a Post-Religious Right America
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-wallis/why-i-wrote-the-great-aw_b_82685.html

that's right brother, a POST religious right America. Not bitter, just pissed, and they know who to direct that anger at at the polls

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

Simply by telling the truth to Americans starved for it, BO as you call him, will take back the WH for all of us !

Today I wash dishes for a living but at least I got health insurance...and luckily so, since I was able to not go bankrupt when I had a bout with kidney stones and later got my hernias fixed. I feel guilty and tore up knowing that many aren't able to get adequate healthcare and take care of their families (I'm single or I don't know what I'd have done).

because of your bias towards your candidate or a pundit?

That is sad

...unlike elton john.

Do you think that only a misogynist can understand that people are bitter?

:wtf:

...figured the elton john remark was silly enough to make the :sarcasm: unnecessary...

:crazy:

This primary is driving everybody :crazy: , even me and I don't even get to vote!

:hi:

:spank:

of why I've become cynical.

DemVet, a very, very sad individual.

The point of the OP is that people ARE bitter, they HURT, they're HUNGRY, and most of all, THEY'RE TIRED OF IT. Ignoring those facts, you post a whiny retort about how mean people are to Clinton. Jesus Christ, the self-righteous angst is top down in her campaign as you illustrate so well.

Whatever a reporter's "bias" may be, the issue comes down that fact that people are bitter and expressing it. Do you even give a damn?

Go shit on someone else's sandwich.

Bush's Base, the elite video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4daYJzyls

her DoD/military contractors connections surely belie any thoughts otherwise, IMHO. It'll be more of the same with Hillary of McCain. I'm done with "Bush lite" or GOP-lite in any way shape or form or by any other name.

Obama is the standard bearer for the People now and he has to carry that flag right into the WH or we're all screwed even worse than we are now.

gal. Its the overwhelming public that's kicking her to the curb.

I wish I could rec this 100 times!
Truth is a wonderful thing.
:toast:

Loudly calling his wife a cunt in public, referring to Vietnamese as gooks, saying Chelsea Clinton is so ugly because Janet Reno is her father, just for starters.

Grandpa McSame is a HAS-BEEN. He is very gaffe prone.

What an easy target he will be. And imagine how fun in the debates to make him turn red and explode.

Scaredy cat.

to remind Americans what the Republican legacy is doing to their lives. The more he brings it up, the more Americans are going to pay attention to the fact that they've been fucked by the Republicans over and over again, and that it's time for the madness to end.

:kick:

get through moderation and I posted about 2 in the afternoon. (He said he got 3,000 emails and puts up about 200 or so.) I love reading the responses he gets. It reinforces my belief in who is right for this country.

Big :thumbsup:

:kick:

It's been a long time since Reagan began the war on ordinary Americans. A long, slow, slide, with nothing but bad news.

Hear that, pundits?

Pull your damn heads out.

Not this time.

well, I tried.

Great post!:thumbsup:

at this point in the campaign is truly pathetic.

Excellent responses, excellent post.

It's just like the attack job that labeled Dean in 2004 and Edwards this year as "angry" as if that's a bad thing. Anyone who ISN'T angry and bitter isn't paying attention.

My background is working-class, small-town America and damn skippy there's a lot of bitterness there. People feel like they've been forgotten.

K & R

I just don't get it.

Cafferty = Complete hatred for Clinton.

Anything coming from Cafferty is propaganda.

Ignored.

IGNORE IT, hoping the problem goes away.

to tears, i know it did me

but it's refreshing to hear these responses.
Thanks for posting. The first one broke my heart, both members of the family have degrees, and can't find work.
So, true, and yet very sad.

:thumbsup:

poor Pat...


Thanks for posting these. I used to try to contribute there but the moderation is awful.

Thanks, grantcart. Nice post.

you are doing great work in exposing the BS from the other side. Keep up the good work.

I always enjoy reading your thoughts.

The blinders are starting to be removed. It's funny how it takes something like a person being willing to say what is on many peoples minds to start the ball rolling.

Hell- I live in a major city and the majority of people I know here (including me and my hubby) are extremely bitter!
This is not a limited experience for people only in rural PA. This frustration and bitterness is everywhere.

Thank you for the OP and thank you Barack for having the cajones to say what's on many peoples minds.

The bad part is how sad the stories are.

Knee-jerk reactions come a dime a dozen. Obama doesn't patronize people like the Clintons do. He offers up the unvarnished truth and, as it turns out, he is enticing Americans out of the rut they've been in for decades with heady conversation, and synapses are firing again. Truth is making a comeback in America.

Watching CNN is far too much for me, most of the times.

Thank you for enduring the pain of watching those monsters, and sharing the good tidings that sometimes come shining

The voice of the people comes through despite the CIA status of the major players

At the time of the Wellstone plane going down, Blitzer confirmed his CIA status the moment he walked onto the Eveleth airport and grabbed the mike out of the local news woman's hands. He began immediately to contradict her, saying to his audience that the "weather was what brought down the Wellstone plane."

The locals know that the weather had nothing to do with. And when word of their insight into how flying in a light drizzle is a daily occurrence** in Minnesota, CNN began to say that maybe a flock of birds had interfered with the plane landing. Then the story changed and became pilot error. The M$M never once mentioned that there were TWO FRIGGIN' PILOTS aboard.

**(A drizzle that had actually cleared up when the plane was landing)

When I was a kid my Uncle used to go to Beechies and bring back hot sausages! Every now and then when I'm back home we still go there and have those excellent hot sausages.

I've spent most of my life living in small towns, we are the first to feel an economic down turn and the last to recover. Yes, it does leave people feeling bitter at times.

it is the media, which molds and edits every little soundbite to create controversy and plays the American people for stupid.

This isn't a press which safeguards democracy and the people in this country - it is a media with its own agenda and own view of ethics - which is to maintain ratings and advertising while doing the owner's bidding. They've already shown their disdain for the American people by sponsoring "debates" in which some candidates were largely ignored and given little airtime, while others were elevated to become the "frontrunners." Now they show us how they expect to handle the campaign season - as cynical, soundbite-oriented, elitists who feel their role at choosing the government is infinitely more influential than the people of this country.

Good to see that this is being received as it SHOULD be.

on corporate media even more strength to call them out and show the world what they have become. This fiasco is going to boomerang on them including Hill and will come back to bite them in the butt.

I bow to your expertise! Great post - VERY revealing. (Why doesn't CNN dump Leslie and give the hours to Jack?)

because the responder coins a great new phrase - "trivia mongers on CNN..."



Again, thanks.

especially given Toobin's rant

astonishing, considering the source of their income. Toobin's rant is something everybody should see.

The ranting commences at 1:48 in the clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwG4BlK8w_Y

bitter description are amazingly enlightening, grant..thank you. Each one is poignant in its own right.

This shows what a "good listener" Obama is and how really out of touch hilary and her six shooter are.

thanks

You know what else they say about what the truth will do...

and notice Obamas's poll #'s are holding steady which is Hillary's death knell.

I've actually seen several threads start to speak to the bitterness and lost jobs, until the conversations get sidetracked.
It finally hit me how bad things actually are in so many places. I mean, its one thing to think you know, but to hear story after story after story, from the actual people living through it. Oh, what an eye-opener.

Prior to my interest in this election, I used to give the MSM very little of my attention because of all the negative stories, crime, death, etc. In doing so, I didn't have much reason to doubt the soundbites that got through. But, once I started paying attention, I realized how badly they spin things. I have gone through moments of feeling absolute anger, disgust and hopelessness watching what they focus on, the lies they tell and how they sway the thinking of many. I am now of the mind, that we need to develop another major outlet for consistent truth and issue-focus.

"We think in credit: spending the dollar in our pockets today because we believe we'll get another dollar tomorrow. When we don't believe in that next buck we don't spend the one we have so easily."

"People may be dumb about a lot of things, but start messing with their money and see how smart they become."

War, economy, healthcare and jobs - we have some big issues that bind many of us together across the United States.
We are being opposed by power, greed and control. That extends beyond these elections. Those who benefit by any of those things, do not want us believing that we are bitter, angry or even in trouble.

We need Barack Obama in the White House and we need to fight with him now, and over the next eight years.

atleast some of that is from people who are feeling bitter

I have definitely donated to him on four specific occasions:
Against the reactions to Wright and Bitter; and for his responses to both.

When the first wave of people run around frantically pointing out Obama's latest gaffe, I'm generally befuddled, wondering how they could call it a gaffe. Maybe it's not politically correct because it might hurt some people's feelings, but, hey, he's voicing opinions that are valid from some people's point of view.

Might as well go back to New York and start thinking about what you're going to do for the next 4 years.

Give them a chance to speak to you after listen to them speak for themselves, not what the media tells you about them and their message, but truly what they say about themselves and their message. Then you will know them and realize that you have been lied to by the media over and over about who the Obama's are.

My grandpa's name was Grant. You've probably even heard of him, he was a General.

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it. (M$M)...

Here's some video of Hillary's own "elitist" controversy. Remember when she got shot down for saying she "could have stayed home and baked cookies"? The Rethuglicans said she was looking down her nose at stay at home moms.

Watch Hillary in her pre-street cred days:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rulSnAM6gmM

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