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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:25 PM
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Stephanopoulos to Obama- Stop your crying.
In an interview with me moments ago, Stephanopoulos strongly defended his handling of the debate. He dismissed criticism that it had focused too heavily on "gotcha" questions, arguing that they had gone to the heart of the "electability" that, he said, is forefront in the minds of voters evaluating the two Dems.

"Overall, the questions were tough, fair, relevant, and appropriate," Stephanopoulos argued. And he rejected the claim by many Obama supporters that the debate had been stacked against him, saying Hillary had faced sharp questioning, too.

Today on the campaign trail Obama criticized ABC's handling of the debate, characterizing it as "the roll out of the Republican campaign against me in November."
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/in_interview_george_stephanopo.php

Asked to respond, Stephanopoulos said that getting criticized "comes with the territory."

"Our job is to ask the questions," he said. "His job is to go out and win votes."

Asked to defend the fact that policy didn't come up for the first 40 or so minutes of the debate, Stephanopoulos said:

"We decided to focus at the top on the issues that had been at the center of the debate since the last debate. Everything we brought up in that front section had not come up since the last debate. And they all focused on the same theme -- which candidate would be a stronger Democratic candidate in Novembber."

"This is the core question for the campaigns, and a lot of Democratic voters right now. That's why we decided to lead with it."

Asked why we should presume that electability, rather than issues, was the dominant concern of many Dems right now, Stephanopoulos argued that it was a frequent topic of discussion on the campaign trail.

"People also take into account...how candidates handle controversy," he said. "That's what campaigns are about, as well."


Asked why the moderators had chosen to spend time on Wright, when Obama has repeatedly responded to questions about him, Stephanopoulos defended it by saying that Wright's most incendiary comments had come to light, and Obama's speech in response, had both come after the previous debate.

When I asked him whether asking about Obama's derelict approach to his flag lapel pin risked making it look like right-wing frames were dictating the line of questioning, Stephanopoulos said:

"Sure, there's a risk." But he added: "If you look at the fall campaign, there are some clear signals from Senator Obama's opponents that all of these issues are going to be put together in a general argument. They all go back to that same theme."

Stephanopoulos rejected the contention of many Obama supporters that the debate, with its focus on Wright and William Ayers -- not to mention that flag-pin -- was unduly stacked against Obama.

"The first series of questions to Senator Clinton were not questions she wanted to answer," he said. "The second series of questions were on credibility and honesty."


Asked whether his background as a political operative had resulted in too much of a focus on electability and on the candidates' handling of media "scandals," Stephanopoulos said:

"You can't help but be shaped by your experience," but he added: "I don't think it's unique to me. This is a conversation that Democrats and some Republicans are having every single day. It's not only, who will be the best president, but who has the best chance of winning."
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:26 PM
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1. Not "to Obama"
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:28 PM
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2. paraphrasing. He doesn't actually use the words "stop whining", but the message is clear.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:29 PM
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4. Not "to Obama"
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:32 PM by featherman
He did not address Obama anywhere. "to critics" would be accurate perhaps (see...I'll try to keep it simple for you)
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:34 PM
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18. I will refrain from responding directly to your insult.

Today on the campaign trail Obama criticized ABC's handling of the debate, characterizing it as "the roll out of the Republican campaign against me in November."


Asked to respond, Stephanopoulos said that getting criticized "comes with the territory."
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:46 PM
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32. Self delete
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:57 PM by featherman
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:49 PM
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33. He was asked to respond to Obama's comments.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:20 PM
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48. You've missed the main point, which is about character & electability.
The primary is now in the hands of the SD's and Hillary's claiming to be the one who will be most electable.

But she clearly demonstrated last night that she's not, and Obama clearly demonstrated that he is.

Voters do not want the old politics, they want change. As good as many of her ideas are, and as strong as she is, she is not what most of the country wants right now, and her character of being disingenuous, willing to use the old Republican style attacks, stood out boldly in last night's debate. Obama kept bringing it back to the issues, and what is really important to Americans. He shows himself to be much more in touch with the pulse of the country.
There's no way the undecided SD's have missed that.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:27 PM
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53. You're gonna ruin a perfectly wound-up rant. (NT)
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:48 AM
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134. Nor did he use the phrase "Stop your crying."
But you and he ARE comparable "political talents" - and I really don't mean that in any complimentary fashion - so I guess you can speak for him.
:crazy:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:31 PM
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10. Poor pampered Precious...


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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:27 PM
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54. Why don't they move on.
The more they whine the more ridiculous it seems.
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Mags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:28 PM
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56. stay away from Precious, don't you even dare ask him anything
that he is not prepared to answer.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
101. Edwards is right, Obama is a wuss
paraphrasing there
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:28 PM
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3. Got stephanoupolis's email address?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:38 PM
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24. go to website, hit the week link and post.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:19 PM
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109. Look, you guys can bully people online but you can't control the real world
Obama will face hard questions and he better come up with good responses to them. He hasn't even been called on his lying about Wright yet.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:29 PM
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5. "Our job is to ask the questions," he said. "His job is to go out and win votes."
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:30 PM by DJ13
And what about Hillary's "job"?

She (and you at ABC) seem to think she can only win votes by trying to tear down Obama.

Shouldnt she be held to the same standard you're setting for Obama?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:32 PM
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12. This has nothing to do with Hillary
and by even whining like that- you're helping to make Stephanopolis' case (feeble as it is).
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:33 PM
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15. This has nothing to do with Hillary
It has everything to do with Hillary.

Theres two people running for office, if one can be chastized by the OP, they can BOTH be chastized.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:41 PM
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27. Once again- that's simply whining
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:48 PM by depakid
it's unflattering, unpersuasive and misses the major beef, which is active concealment of real issues in favor of tabloidism- as well as the active promotion of barely relevant wedge issues that have nothing to do with the MAJOR problems that the country's going to face in the next several years.

It's about the sorry state of journalism- not whether one candidate or another comes out a little higher or lower on the balance sheet of inanity.

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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:33 PM
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13. "the" questions are the problem.
Your job is to act like professional journalists, not the Entertainment tonight and the Inquirer.

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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:30 PM
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6. They've been lambasted
People in the MSM and in the blogosphere generally agree: the debate sucked. He is going to have to buy Revlon to put enough lipstick on that pig.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:30 PM
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7. Memo to Stephanopolis: your credibility and career just took a BIG hit
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:30 PM by depakid
best to acknowledge your mistakes, and quit digging a deeper hole.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:33 PM
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16. He has become part of and beholden to...
the corporate media.

Too damn entrenched to see what he is doing anymore.

Certainly, he is not a journalist - but just another talking head.

At least this gives Obama good sparring practice.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:30 PM
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8. We've Been Kicked Off The ABC Island Of Tacky Reality Shows
oh no, what are we to do?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:31 PM
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9. "Do you believe in the flag?" is not a question.
It's character assassination.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:21 PM
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89. If someone asked you that question, they would be assassinating your character?
Why?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:24 PM
Original message
Ever heard of a fella named Joe McCarthy?
Are you a young teenager, or just playing dumb?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:08 PM
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95. This isn't a congressional investigation. LOL!
If some goof ball asked me that question, it would be answered with ease, not stammering.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:31 PM
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11. "That's what campaigns are about, as well."
< Lex Luthor>

WRONG!!!!!1111one

< /Lex Luthor >
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:33 PM
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14. right on!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:34 PM
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17. "It's not only, who will be the best president, but who has the best chance of winning."
The Al Davis school of government. Just win baybeeeeee!

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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:34 PM
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19. Where is "Stop your crying" anywhere in this?
You are mixing facts with speculation. this is a mis-leading op.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:35 PM
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21. Jenmito, is that you?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #21
30. Nice deflection
Your thread title is bullshit.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:51 PM
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34. Stop whining? Get over it? Grow up?Deal with it? How would you characterize this-
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:51 PM by 2rth2pwr
Today on the campaign trail Obama criticized ABC's handling of the debate, characterizing it as "the roll out of the Republican campaign against me in November."
Asked to respond, Stephanopoulos said that getting criticized "comes with the territory."
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:04 PM
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36. I would characterize it as
accurate.

And I predict we'll see Stephanopolis in the White House again.... in 2009.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:36 PM
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66. Don't know who that is but okay then
thanks for your lopsided post anyway, very factual.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:34 PM
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20. That would hurt Obama IF Stephanopoulos were "a journalist" - but - not this "M$M whore"
:evilgrin:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:18 PM
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75. name-calling and diversions. How Rovian of you.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:36 PM
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22. But why no questions on: Nafta, Colombia, Penn, Screw-em, and her daily "mis-speaks"???
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 03:38 PM by quantass
those questions certainly raise electability and trust in a voters mind....wtf am i missing
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:40 PM
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25. You're missing Sniper-Gate.
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:12 PM
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41. Exactly. Mark Penn's work on behalf on the Columbian trade deal and Hillary's NAFTA support
Seem more like the kind of "central issues" Pennsylvania voters want to know about.

I guess ABC News thinks lapel pins are a more relevant "central issue"
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:38 PM
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23. Alternate OP title: "Former Clintonista asks Obama why he hates USA, claims it's fair a question"
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:40 PM
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26. George Hannity Clinton Stephanopolous is full of shit.....
I wrote this:

Dear George,

In the sham called the Debate last night, why not one question to Hillary on the Colombia Trade deal and how it interconnects with Bill Clinton and his speech fees of $800,000. Nor did anyone ask Hillary about her disgraceful Campaign manager and his day job, or whether he still holds a position as campaign staff. The fact that it was reported on ABC news that in 1995, Hillary advised Bill in reference to White Rural Voters; "screw 'em", yet that failed to make it as a debate question, and that smells nothing but convenient.

Because, oddly, there was plenty of time for questions to Obama's Flag Pins, If his pastor loves this country, and some radical from the 60s who was never convicted of anything, and is currently a professor at U of C.

That's why this debate was a farce, and a pile-on.

I'm sure that both Capital Gains Gibson and you, George Hannity Clinton Stephanopolous will find ways to excuse your behaviors; you always do. The problem is that since you would be lying, any excuse offered up will not be believed. Look, the American people are sick, tired and bitter about the role the media plays in our election. To your ABC Family I ask, are you all really patriotic citizens who loves your country, or do you just play patriots on television? From what have observed thus far, actors come a dime a dozen, but real patriots never ever play games with our democracy. And so you need to start wearing your own flag pin, cause I'm starting to get suspicious.

Respectfully,

XXXXXXXXX

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:06 PM
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39. Effin' great letter there, Frenchie
:thumbsup:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:25 PM
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50. His staff will read the first eight words and it will be tossed into the round file.
"In the sham called the Debate last night ..."

That tone is just as dismissive towards him as he was towards the candidates. The letter deteriorates into full-blown insults in the last paragraph, yet is signed "Respectfully." Ha ha. I love irony.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:13 PM
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71. obama stank BIGTIME - get over it...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:54 PM
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103. No time to gloat
We need a nominee who is ready. With help that nominee can be Obama. Hillary is probably not going to be it. Thoo bad - she is clearly the better candidate/ politician.. But Obama needs our help.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:30 PM
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93. You say Ayers was not convicted of anything.
His statement to the New York Times on Sept 11, 2001: "I don't regret setting bombs, I feel we didn't do enough." Dinitia Smith, "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen, The New York Times, September 11, 2001. He was not convicted because he was a fugitive for so long that the charges had to be dropped. BTW he is not a professor at the University of Chicago which you posted. He is at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Not exactly the same institution.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:38 PM
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100. snivel and whine as if George cares
Obama is a weak candidate and it showed

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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:43 PM
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28. I don't care what color his skin is, but it sure is THIN!

I guess getting a free pass from the media for all those months gave him and his supporters a sense of entitlement.


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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:17 PM
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45. Obama's taking it in stride, his supporters are calling them out.
You Hillarians want the status quo, we want a new direction. sorry about that, but we prefer him to her same old same old, and being Rovian only bolsters that opinion.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 11:50 AM
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133. There's nothing new about grifting...

... when it comes time to follow through, Obama will turn out to be another Carter presidency, if he even gets elected, Rezko and association with terrorists will be more likely to doom him in the general.

Questioning Obama doesn't make someone beholden to Senator Clinton. But when the responses to any questioning of Senator Obama reek of "Hillary hatred" it's hard to take them seriously.

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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:43 PM
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29. What? No Vince Foster question?
What about Whitewater?
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:05 PM
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38. dealt with years ago
covered ad nauseum, nothing there. Senator Obama on the other hand is fresh meat and the MSM smells fresh meat.
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:18 PM
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46. Some of the issues pressed last night are past news, too
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:35 PM
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65. like what, a month old?
Fresh meat. The dogs are circling and snarling for a piece of it.
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:12 PM
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96. ...
They must be desperate if they're fighting over month-old meat.
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:50 PM
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112. It is fresher than what is available on Senator Clinton
Anything there, except for Tuzla which she apologized for, is DECADES old and been checked out by the best.
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 11:43 PM
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126. Too bad for you
It looks like the debate questions won't be a problem for Obama. I hope the golf courses are nice between now and November since you won't have anything else to do after Tuesday night. :-)
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:45 PM
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31. Memo to Snuffelupogus, stop whining you giant douche.
We are criticizing you as voters, now go back in your hole.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:00 PM
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35. hey.. nice post!
K&R!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:05 PM
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37. Dems should boycott his fucking wannabe show
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:09 PM
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40. What do you expect from ABC, which has invested heavily in Hillary's campaign
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 04:13 PM by nichomachus
http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2008/02/27/disney-puts-money-on-dems-clinton/

The House of Mouse has given 64 percent of its total political contributions so far in the 2008 election cycle to Dems and has showered Clinton with more Mickeybucks than any other presidential contender this year, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

So, it would seem they were merely protecting their investment. Judas Snuffalapagous knows who signs his paycheck.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:13 PM
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42. george, criticism and ineptitude are two different things....ugh, you suck
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:13 PM
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43. Also, by "center of debate", I think he means the DLC pro-war pro-corporate "center"
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:15 PM
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44. Whether one thinks the questions were bogus or not, it was salient, I thought,
how the candidates handled them. I think their true character showed. Good for Obama, not so good for Mrs. Clinton.

The current question of "electability" becomes moot in the General because people who vote will be looking for the straight shooter, and it sure aint McCain these days.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:27 PM
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52. Exactly, exactly. Character and electability.
Obama was the clear winner on both of those counts. It seemed like a set up to me, to specifically answer those two questions for the SD's. We all know that even if Hillary wins PA, she can't catch up to Obama. It's up to the SD's and they are looking for (1) character (2) electability.

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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:52 PM
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69. I, too, want more talk of substance, but I still found the performances of both very telling.
I don't even think they need to tell us the details of everything they will do; what I am looking for is an informed, rational, and common-sense approach to making policies and solving problems and keeping us safe. And I want someone I can trust. I wouldn't trust Hillary Clinton further than the next election competition. And did you notice how she kept referring to herself as the candidate and framing her answers in the context of "the reason I am running...." Obama answered questions resolutely and confidently with, "As President, I will...," "When I am President,...."

These women like HRC that have gone to hand gesture school are driving me crazy, too. It was difficult to concentrate on what she was saying because her hands were always making exaggerated movements, as if to show she's decisive and direct. Whereas, Obama just demonstrated with unflappable poise, dignity, respect and integrity how he is indeed a man who knows his own mind, and how he will go about investigating issues and making decisions. That's the kind of person I want for President, and I think a lot of others do, too.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:17 PM
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74. yeah - kinda ARROGANT of obama, isn't it!
but typical for the "annointed one"...
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:22 PM
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78. His integrity runs deep.
I think she probably has it too but she's compromised it because she misunderstands what real power is.

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:24 PM
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111. They BOTH have BOTH
.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:44 PM
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125. I don't agree but that's ok. I don't think she could beat McCain.
You can't fight fire with fire as they say.

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:04 AM
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131. Worked in WW2


But hey! What we believe is neither here nor there in the end.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 09:13 AM
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132. You're right.. time will tell and we hope for the best, do what we can.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:15 PM
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72. wow - just like the ASSHOLE BIGOTED preacher wright thing was so "over"
with obama's "great" (sic) speach...NOT!!!

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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:19 PM
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47. Steph is just spinning
He knows exactly what he did and what kind of a hack he was.

What he's saying now is just to help Hillary more and help his own reputation. Remember, he is a world class campaign manager in his own right.

He also came up with the seemingly tough but really softball questions for Hillary "How are you going to win my vote back?" that are just invitations to say what she has prepared, as opposed no-win questions like to "Does Wright love America as much as you do". He knows he gave her "fair and balanced" softballs so they could say she got "tough" questions too. Steph is nothing but a tool. When he left government, he had to walk a fine line to be considered a serious journalist. He has just destroyed his journalism career.
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:23 PM
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49. You Hillarians get more Rovian by the day. Sorry to say, we
Obama supporters want a new direction. Hillary seems like the same old tired political bullshit, with no solutions in sight. Same infighting, same pathetic circle-jerk, same negativity we've had for decades. We want to break with the past. Sorry, she's not entitled, we prefer him.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:26 PM
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51. You may want a new direction, I want a new Ferrari. Some things need to be earned.
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:30 PM
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59. Hillarious has earned nothing. She's not entitled because her hubby
backed in because of Perot, then proceeded to become the best Republican president of our lifetime. Bill wasn't too bad, but he could have done more IMO. But Hillary has done nothing of merit. Start with the war in Iraq and go from there. Plus she's about as divisive as Bush. We should go elsewhere, and we will.

SAME SHIT, DIFFERENT DAY.

We will have something new. We aren't backing down to the ridiculous, negative, same old shit. Not this time, pal.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:22 PM
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77. Right.
That's why he's working so hard to earn the position of the POTUS.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:27 PM
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55. Georgie, you stupid little shit, I do worry about electability...
...but unfortunately, you prig, thanks to you and Charlie Gibson, whose name I remember only because he shares (perhaps by design) initials with "Capital Gains" I learned absolutely nothing about anyone's electability last night. All I learned about was the trivial bullshit you asked about.

I can list a couple of hundred flag lapel pin-wearin' angleheaded dipshits right now including a whole slew of 'em who dropped out after freakin' Iowa ferchrissake so how fuckin' electable are they?

As for preachers, well let's just say I and many of my friends would prefer a candidate not have a preacher, period. Barring that, we'd be pleased to not hear anything about the preacher...ever. We don't care if the preacher thinks America sucks or limits himself to just saying Catholics will all roast in hell. How's that grab ya?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:29 PM
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57. What a ridiculous thread of ranting whiners
.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:19 PM
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76. BINGO! whiners line up to the right over here!!! calling all whiners...
you nailed it AGAIN!!!
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:26 PM
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83. At the front of the line I see.
Hillarious is gonna lose pal, and it's coming soon. so keep whacking away at the redwood of inevitability, it ain't goin nowhere.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:36 PM
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98. Barack may well win this nomination
He is ahead. He is a very strong candidate. He will need Hillary to win. She will fight right along side him. Get used to it and act accordingly.

Stop playing victim. Stop being a sore winner.
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:05 PM
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105. Well damn,
I think I will take your advice to heart, and also bow out till its over. Peace out.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:30 PM
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58. so where was the BALANCE? Obama under fire 3;1 for hte first hour.
There were NO controversaries to ask Hillary about for EQUAL time?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:31 PM
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60. 2rth2pwr to DU - I'm a fool.
Steph, for all his idiocy, said nothing of the sort that you claim.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:32 PM
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61. They take their cue from Obama. He whines, they whine.
He really sounded like a whiner. Poor me, Hillary attacked me, threw the kitchen sink at me. All the time blaming Hillary for what the media does and then the media turns around and apologizes for him. Wait until you hear KO and Rachel tonight. They never find anything wrong with the way the media, including themselves, smear and slam Hillary. I don't want a whiner for President...please.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:32 PM
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62. Your line in red sounds like it came straight out of Mark Penn's mouth. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:32 PM
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63. Deleted message
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:25 PM
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81. Acting?



















KIDDING!
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:11 PM
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84. I give too much benefit of doubt. eom
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:32 PM
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64. I thought it was fair to review the campaign based issues
that have come up since the last debate. Obama handled them well and made it clear that he felt they were non-issues. He did not do nearly as well when it came to more substantial issues and that, IMO, is what is causing the firestorm today.

I find it very ironic that people who have beaten these non-issues to death daily for months now find it problematic when the candidates themselves are asked to respond to them in a debate.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:40 PM
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67. Funny but in a sad way, Georgie Boy let Sean Hannity supply him with this question

HANNITY: There are two questions that I don’t think anybody has asked Barack Obama, and I don’t know if this is going to be on your list tomorrow. One is – the only time he’s ever been asked about his association with Bill Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist from the Weather Underground who on 9/11 of all days in the New York Times was saying “I don’t regret setting bombs. I don’t think we did enough.” When asked about it by the Politico, David Axelrod said that they have a friendly relationship, and that they had done a number of speeches together and that they sat on a board together. Is that a question you might ask?

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, I’m taking notes right now.


In the debate last night, Stephanopoulos asked a question that mirrored almost word-for-word what Hannity pressed him to ask:

STEPHANOPOULOS: A gentleman named William Ayers, he was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol and other buildings. He’s never apologized for that. And in fact, on 9/11 he was quoted in The New York Times saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

An early organizing meeting for your state senate campaign was held at his house, and your campaign has said you are friendly. Can you explain that relationship for the voters, and explain to Democrats why it won’t be a problem?



As a side note: Georgeie Boy Stephanopoulos is also a member of the Bilderberg Group.



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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:15 PM
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87. Poor wittle Bawmmie, can't handle a haniity qwuestion. {sniff}
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:24 PM
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90. I think he handled it very WELL
And it makes your candidate look weak. But you already know that.

You can save your tears, you'll be needing them soon enough.




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Austinitis Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:43 PM
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68. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Awesome
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:56 PM
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70. I stopped watching Stephanopoulos a long time ago. In case anyone
hasn't noticed, he's turned into half a 'puke over the past year or so anyway. Guess that's what happens when you get a few bucks in your pocket. He probably wants McCain elected so he can keep his tax cuts. What an asshole.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:16 PM
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73. Obama is playing the victim once again. poor wittle man.
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Citizen_Penn Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:22 PM
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79. When did G.S. use the phrase "stop crying"?
Oh, you can't tell the truth either.

Much like the candidate whose ass you kiss.

Sit down and shut up, loser.

Weak ass blog shit.

snore.....
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:19 PM
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88. He didn't, look up "paraphrase"
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 06:19 PM by 2rth2pwr
Today on the campaign trail Obama criticized ABC's handling of the debate, characterizing it as "the roll out of the Republican campaign against me in November."
Asked to respond, Stephanopoulos said that getting criticized "comes with the territory."
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:24 PM
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80. Since Hillary won the debate...then he must think Hillary has the best chance to win.
I assume he's referring to the GE. :bounce:
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pettypace Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:25 PM
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82.  Stephanopoulos bitter about Obama
They probably had a run-in at Columbia, and Steph is envious of a guy his junior running for POTUS while Steph is left being a media pundit.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:12 PM
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85. Such a crybaby Obama is.
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:14 PM
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86. correct
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:26 PM
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91. Me to Steph: Don't be Hannity's mouthpiece.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:28 PM
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92. Babybama gets his just deserts handed to him.
Oh noes!

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:16 PM
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119. Watch this
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:31 PM
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94. K&R
Thank You for the post.

Had it been Hillary "in the hot seat" last night? This would be a NON issue. Sorry but Obama FAILED big time last night and has only himself, and his numerous scandals, to blame for it.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:32 PM
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97. Man up Obama
Edwards was right, he is a wuss


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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:38 PM
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99. Obama did fine
and hasn't been nearly as whiny as many of his supporters on DU.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:42 PM
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102. Stephanopoulous should go home and take his highchair with him.
He isn't fit for the news business and he proved it last night.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:02 PM
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104. I always thought George was a weasel
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:04 PM by TragedyandHope
but now I see that he's really just pond scum.

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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:05 PM
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106. George S screwed up by getting on the bad side of the next president! nt
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:05 PM by my3boyz
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:51 PM
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115. You are right.
Obama has that in common with Bush. Both of them will seek revenge on their opponents.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:19 AM
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135. We have seen plenty of evidence of this
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:06 PM
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107. Stephanopoulos, the little toadie, is unfit to shine Obama's shoes.
'nuff said.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:42 PM
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113. Is he fit to iron his shirts?
?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:52 PM
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116. He can iron Hillary's shirts.
Corporate whores stick together.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:09 PM
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108. if the fans keep flaming ABC
then they will be dismissed as zealots and will be ignored by ABC and their advertisers.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:21 PM
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110. What is the over/under on how many death threats George has gotten from the non-cult?
Can he beat Tavis Smiley and Mayhill Fowler?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:14 AM
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127. Good question, I want a piece of that action.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:50 PM
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114. I don't remember him saying that or having that attitude in "The War Room"
Seemed he was out there defending Bill at every chance and bad mouthing the negative press questions about Gennifer Flowers and Paula Jones, etc.

He should stop pretending to be a journalist.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:59 PM
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117. Yet another specious, asinine post from my favorite specious
poster!!

:hurts:
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igor2008 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:12 PM
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118. Glassjaw will only be appearing on Oprah and The View from now on
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 03:42 AM
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128. He does seem a bit fragile
in the jaw department. Or rather - that is how his howling protectors on DU present him.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:23 PM
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120. WTF does "electability" mean anyway,
the way Stephanopoulos uses it?

Just how gullible *IS* the American public this year anyway?

Which candidate can we con people into believing they'd rather have a beer with?

Re "We decided to focus at the top on the issues that had been at the center of the debate since the last debate. Everything we brought up in that front section had not come up since the last debate. And they all focused on the same theme -- which candidate would be a stronger Democratic candidate in Novembber."

"This is the core question for the campaigns, and a lot of Democratic voters right now. That's why we decided to lead with it."

Asked why we should presume that electability, rather than issues, was the dominant concern of many Dems right now, Stephanopoulos argued that it was a frequent topic of discussion on the campaign trail.

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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:30 PM
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123. Is this your first dance?
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:23 PM
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121. What a disservice to PA...just terrible, terrible questions...nil on policy....
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:28 PM
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122. He's absolutely correct. I wish Bosnia didn't happen and wasn't an issue BUT IT IS.
Duh. No sense crying about it.



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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:39 PM
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124. So...how many 'hard hitting' questions did snuffy have for Clinton?
One?
Don't make me laugh.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:35 AM
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130. Try this
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 04:36 AM by 2rth2pwr




















Did ya laugh?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 04:01 AM
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129. Voters should be more concerned with a candidate's character. If Obama
Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 04:02 AM by oasis
can't take it then he should throw in the towel and allow the better candidate to take on McCain.
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