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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:13 AM Original message |
We need to completely revamp our "proportional representation" system for delegates |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. States have the right to decide how to choose their delegates, Primary, caucus or whatever |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Some of us are capable of having an actual discussion |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Because I belive states have the right to choose their method of electing delegates? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I thought caucuses were undemocratic |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I can discuss the allocation system and the super delegates. But I am states rights guy on caucuses |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
26. P.S. The system isn't broken just because the candidate who lost refuses to accept it |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
2. Bill Clinton did just fine with the old system. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. So? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Why? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. a caucus is the opposite of vote by mail |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Thats what I'm saying |
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Liberal Gramma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. I'm with you on part of that |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. Theres nothing wrong with the current system that small changes couldnt fix |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. that would be an interesting way to approach it |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. It only seems broken b/c one candidate |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Nope |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Doesn't matter. It's over, yet she's staying in. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
9. K & R |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
10. I don't want a system that gives huge representation to states with large populations |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Because that way, we can get a candidate that loses the EC by a landslide in Nov? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Demographics change, states that were blue 40 years ago aren't anymore |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Huh? The primaries should give out points based on electoral votes. |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
13. There is nothing wrong with caususes |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. No but the DNC is not the federal government |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No, but I think that there has to be a general agreement |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. true |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
16. another odd thing is the different registration rules (open vs. closed) nt |
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terrell9584 (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. different election codes |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. sound good - as long as all parties have the vote on the same day nt |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
21. How about this idea |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
25. However they decide... primary/caucus |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
28. Keep supers but eliminate caucuses |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Winner take all is anti-democratic. n/t |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
30. You mean the fact that Hillary, the inevitable candidate, is LOSING proves how stupid the system is? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. I like the Texas system. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
32. Caucuses disenfranchise people who have to work for a living. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Ruggerson, glad you started this thread... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 04:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. No, they do not. Not if caucus states move to the Maine system |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
34. Because THIS primary season didn't work out for HRC like she thought it would? |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. This thread is not about either candidate... |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
38. Why? |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
39. Number three sounds good to me. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
43. Great. Make more peoples' votes totally meaningless. Just what we need. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
44. Yeah, we coulda just let Terry McAuliffe call it eight months ago, when he announced "IT'S HER TURN" |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
45. As much as I question the "Texas Two-Step" nonsense... |
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