MCCAIN COLLECTS SOCIAL SECURITY!

YOU GOTTA BE SHITTING ME
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/18/916355.aspx



McCain on Social Security
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/John_McCain_Social_Security.htm
http://www.aflcio.org/issues/politics/mccain_retirement.cfm

When did he have a non-gov't job?

Do you have a link for this statement?

it is on MSNBC NOW. He earned just under $50k in Social Security. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!

This needs kicked to the front page.

:hi: Thanks.

Link? Info? Something?

where did you hear this?

pays into SS is eligible to the benefits when they are 65.

PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY. HE TALKS ABOUT WASTING MONEY, IT IS A WASTE TO SEND JOHN MCCAIN A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK EACH MONTH. HE WAS IN THE MILITARY AND THEN BECAME A US CONGRESSPERSON. HE HAS A PENSION FOR LIFE. WHY IS HE GETTING SOCIAL SECURITY AND STILL WORKING. I HATE THAT MAN.

THAT'S the reason SS is not considered a welfare program! McCain is nuts for supporting privatising SS, but you don't want to change things to have people paying into the program but not allowed to collect the benefit because they have too much money.

The wealthier you are, the lower the percentage of your income is paid into the system.

I have no problem with him collecting it - but he should have been paying a proper proportional amount into it.

I KNOW PEOPLE PAY INTO SOCIAL SECURITY SO THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO COLLECT!!! BUT MY PROBLEM IS THAT JOHN FUCKING MCCAIN TALKS SO MUCH SHIT ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY AND OTHER ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS AND EVEN WELFARE PROGRAMS BUT THIS MULTIMILLIONAIRE IS COLLECTING ON AN ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM. TALK ABOUT FULL OF SHIT.

He IS eligible, but if he really dislikes the program, he could have passed on applying for benefits and he wouldn't be getting any checks. Your problem appears to be with McCain, so ask him yourself or contact someone who will be at one of his town meetings and have THEM ask him about it.

JOHN MCCAIN IS THE ENEMY. GET IT? NOW, I WILL TALK AS MUCH ABOUT MCCAIN AND SOCIAL SECURITY COLLECTING ASS AS MUCH AS I CHOOSE AND I DON'T NEED TO ASK HIM A DAMN THING. I KNOW EXACTLY WHY HE IS COLLECTING BECAUSE HE IS A HYPOCRITICAL ASS.

The man collects $22,000 from SSI and donates 10x that to charity.. IT WONT STICK..

nobody says that you HAVE to take it, regardless of whether you paid or not. I would hope somebody who is married to a FUCKING HEIRESS would have the common fucking decency to decline the benefits.

and they would have dumped all of that worthless real-estate paper and made off with the cash, soon to be converted into Gold.

That was the plan. I would bet on it. They knew that paper would soon be worth less than the paper it was printed on.

...no matter at what age you stop working (and not just your arms, either).

and continue to collect a paycheck, your SS benefit will be reduced based upon your earnings. Once you reach 65, you can collect full benefits no matter how much you make.

SCOTUS. After a certain time on the bench, you get too old and tired and sick and stupid to make rational juridical decisions. The retirement age should be 70.

And quite frankly, that would be a good idea for POTUS as well.

if you are physically unable to work, both you and your dependents collect.

For one, when did he pay into SS? Apparently he was in the military for 20 years and thus has been collecting a major's pension for the last 30 years. I guess I remember now he had some high-paying civil service job for a few years. What was it, ten or 15 years? He could not have paid very much in over 15 years and now he collects $23,157 in 2007?

According to my social security earnings report I made $24,120 in 2005. And if I keep working at that pay until I am 67 (another 23 years!!) I can collect a whopping $988 a month. Which is $11,856 a year, and that is in the year 2029!! Yet he collects $23,157 today.

That is some screwed up system.

SENSE HE HAS BEEN COLLECTING IT FOR SEVEN YEARS? HE HAS TALKED ABOUT PRIVATIZING SOCIAL SECURITY AMONG OTHER THINGS. I WONDER WHAT HIS PAYROLL TAX WAS CAPPED AT? THESE FRIGGIN MILLIONAIRES!

... Sounds like you want to destroy that system, replacing it with something like a "only good people can collect SS".

Fuck that. All Americans who pay into the system collect from it. That's what fucking UNIVERSAL means. That's why that system WORKS. Assholes, good people - all of them

I KNOW EXACTLY HOW SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS, BUT IT SEEMS MIGHTY HYPOCRITICAL FOR SOMEONE WHO DESPISES ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS AND WELFARE PROGRAMS TO BE COLLECTING IT WHILE HE IS STILL WORKING AT THAT. HE WANTS TO DISMANTLE THE PROGRAM BUT HE CURRENTLY BENEFITS FROM THE SO-CALLED "FUCKED UP WAY". HE IS A MULTIMILLIONAIRE TO BOOT.

I THINK THAT THIS WON'T BE VIEWED FAVORABLY.

It appears your Caps lock key is stuck. And, I don't want to speak for others, but the shouting that comes along with it generally gets dismissed.

I CHECKED, THE IGNORE FEATURE WORKS WELL.

I think the little light may be on. If you turn it off, we can hear you better.

I mean, really.

No income test on social security, no stigma. It's worth it.

My late father had his benefits reduced when he took a part-time job.

http://www.retirementjobs.com/advice/newsAdvice/Will_My_Retirement_Job_Affect_My_Social_Security.html

SSI has nothing to do with your income, not at any point in time. Not unless he had the program for people who never paid in enough to make an ssi claim, I think that one might be income dependent.

... goes back into the Social Security system. (I bet a lot of folks don't know that.)

Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!

On edit: Can you even refuse Social Security? If not, you should be able to.

He could easily just say forget the check, but NOOOOOOO! He talks about the deficits and such, but this multimillionaire is collecting Social Security from the government while millions of people go hungry. I DESPISE HIM.

a COMMUNITY PROPERTY state. So 1/2 of that belongs to John McShame no matter how you slice it. I bet George Soros is eligible for SS to, I'm also willing to bet that he doesn't collect it either.

Meanwhile elderly people go hungry in this country every mother-fucking day and this asshole is collecting a check he doesn't need.

My husband, who is a teacher, is subjected to the offset. How is McCain eligible for the SS income with his salary and Naval pension?

My husband, who earns much, much less as a teacher will forfeit much (if not all) his SS he paid in before he became a teacher.

Social Security Income 2006 & 2007: $22,104, $23,157

SUMMARY OF SENATOR MCCAIN'S ACTUAL (NOT COMMUNAL) INCOME

2006 2007

Senate Salary: $161,675 $161,708
Book Royalty Income: $80,390 $176,508
Social Security Income: $22,104 $23,157
US Navy Pension*: $56,496 $58,358

take his social security and put into a designated fund for charity. Someone should have given him this advice, it would have helped him rather than have people feel he was taking money he doesn't need.

He sucks.

most certainly.

Who knows what he does with it. Of course, it could go towards hairspray. That wife of his appears to need considerable amounts.

would have shown up on the tax forms.

he's 71 years old. Why shouldn't he?

Blah blah blah blah. Why shouldn't a multimillionaire crusade for dismantling the system so his buddies on Wall Street can get fat off of private accounts and also collect Social Security as well under the current system. Yes, he is doing what he should be doing, MF.

When you are 62 or older, you have to apply for your SS retirement. McCain obviously did apply. When drawing SS and working, you continue to pay into SS and medicare as part of the usual payroll taxes.

Obviously, McCain is a triple dipper: SS+military retirement+ his Senatorial salary(retirement pension when he is no longer in the senate). If he were to become president and survive one or two terms, he would be adding yet another pension to what he is drawing now.

Well he paid into the system, didn't he? He's just as entitled to it as any other millionaire.

On that note, I think it's effing hilarious and the pinnacle of hypocrisy that he IS taking it considering he's against the system.

... and (3) It's hypocritical of DUers to suggest that only SOME people people pay into the system that they profess to defend should get their money back.

All three can be, and apparently are, true.

:wow:

They also think they're owed your check and mine and everyone else's, so why wouldn't they cash their own?

:shrug:

Stop bitching... he is doing what anyone would do. He paid into all his life, he should get it back.

:rofl:

Again we make a big deal over total dumb shit..

totaldumbshitgate.

Thank you Thepricebreaker.

about BITTERGATE. Therefore, I will milk this baby until it dries up. It's hypocritical as hell. We have seniors living on 1,000 SS a month and they haven't even adjusted for inflation. Here is he getting three different income streams one of which is social security, and his wife is a multimillionaire, and he wants to end social security as we know it.

You are missing the POINT,

who collects gets penalized if they earn over a very limited amount (less than $1,000 month, don't know exact figure)

(I think 65) -- you can earn as much as you want to
without it affecting your benefits.

nobody makes too much money to get social security. It's not means-tested.

It's a function of age, not need.

I want to see her tax returns.

collecting it for years. He's been eligible for quite a while. :rofl:

He should be sipping margaritas on a cruise ship with his rich wife instead of running for President.

thats the point of social security... get back what you pay in. Its not a charity.