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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:55 PM
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Sen. Fritz Hollings: "Howard Dean is right"
Edited on Fri Jan-02-04 11:58 PM by dajabr
A panel offering advice to President Bush and his Democratic rivals had just gotten underway at Renaissance Weekend in Charleston, S.C., when a surprise visitor strode to the podium. It was Sen. Fritz Hollings, South Carolina's senior senator, with a word for the assembled strivers.

"Howard Dean is right," declared the silver-haired Hollings, launching into a spirited defense of Dean's assertion that Americans are no safer now that Saddam Hussein has been captured. "Saddam wasn't causing anybody any problem. You have some little smart-aleck announcer on television asking, 'Do you think we're better off with Saddam gone?' What else is gone? We have 456 dead; 11,000 maimed for life, and I don't think it was worth it. I had intended to vote against that resolution , but Rummy and Condi Rice and Cheney said you can't wait until the smoking gun is a mushroom cloud. I thought they had some intelligence, that they knew something."

More: http://msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3860722&p1=0

OK, it's Eleanor Clift :puke: but I'm hoping she at least quoted the senator correctly...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-04 11:58 PM
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1. This shocked me
It isn't an endorsement but Hell! "Dean's right"? from a guy who voted yes on the IWR! Has that happened before? It was terribly gracious of Fritz- he has nothing to lose- he's retiring and speaking his mind.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:01 AM
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2. *sigh*
Thank goodness some are telling the truth! Thank you Fritz!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 11:49 AM
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19. That had to take courage for Hollings to say that about his war vote.
I admire him for that.

One question: the 16 year old they were quoting about Dean, why was he at the Renaissance thing? It sounds rather private, I thought.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:07 AM
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3. good for him!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:07 AM
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4. No this year is going to be WEIRD
Dean Republicans? I am not kidding
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:29 AM
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7. I keep wondering if this is why the Repubs
are attacking Dean so fiercely. I really think they're scared he's going to suck away votes from Bush and change lots of smart conservative Republicans into conservative Democrats. If we get enough defectors, maybe well take the congress too.
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:30 AM
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8. You can bank on it.
I think the number of voters who will cross Party lines to vote for Dean will amaze many - not me.
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:25 AM
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9. Maybe...
Fritz saw Dean's latest poll results? :evilgrin:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:13 AM
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5. heh, did you see this?
"The Dean people saw in Charleston was not the angry, vein-popping politician they see on television, and many came away impressed. One longtime Renaissance-goer pronounced Dean "Clintonesque," the highest compliment that can be paid in this crowd. In response to a question testing his youth-culture awareness, Dean did a brief takeoff of a song by Outkast, the hot hip-hop group. "He knows the lyrics to Outkast songs and, man, can that dude dance," enthused a 16-year-old."
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 12:15 AM
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6. Yes I did!
Thought I'd leave some suprises for those who actually wanted to read the article.

:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 01:42 AM
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10. Yep,that dude can dance.
That was funny.
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burning bush Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:32 AM
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16. Wonder if it was Land of a Million Drums
the Scooby Doo song....?

Damn, that would have been one fine party...and a day for the history book!
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 02:15 AM
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11. Looks like Dean is going to do quite well in So. Carolina.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 02:16 AM
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12. Fritz is Right. I Agree with Dean on this Point. Go Howard!
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 03:15 AM
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13. there is a rumor that Hollings will endorse before the
South Carolina primary--and if he did endorse Dean that would be a big one to have in that state.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:43 AM
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14. I thought Hollings had endorsed Kerry n/t
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 04:57 AM
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15. Wowzers!
A pro-IWR senator admitting that Howard Dean was right??? Dayum! :wow:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 07:41 AM
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17. I always liked this man
He is at the end of his career. He is not affraid to state the truth. He and Byrd are priceless treadsures to the democratic party.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 07:53 AM
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18. Maybe Sen. Breaux (LA) will take a second look, too
I think Hollings originally had a bad attitude about Dean. Glad he changed his mind.
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