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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:39 AM Original message |
I was at a PA bar last night. Obama ads ran about every 5-10 mins. ZERO Clinton ads ran |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. Obama has won TWICE the number of states Hillary has |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Obama has no excuse for losing PA |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. PA is a Clinton Firewall state. You Fail |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. How do you lose when you're inevitable? Ask Hillary. She has experience with that. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Bingo! |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
38. excellent point |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:54 AM Original message |
"You've got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who..... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
26. John Edwards took her down (lobbying, "politics of parsing", etc.) |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
36. What Ed failed to mention in that inane comment |
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MJJP21 (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
31. Is this a complaint? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Of course not. This is an on the ground report. Obama has run an excellent campaign in PA |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Have the MSM on your side?!?!?!?!? Are you serious |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
48. Hillary was inevitable before the election started - how did she wind up losing? |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
63. Clinton has no excuses for losing by 30 points in about 20 States. nt |
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joeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
67. He can purchase the state because he has more supporters, thus |
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NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. is this a criticism? Hillary would buy ads, but tv stations wont take her credit cards |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. This is a field report about the excellent campaign Obama has run in PA (bittergate excepted) |
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Raven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. I think he's probably going to lose but not by much. n/t |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. *gasp* |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Where did they get my name? That is a sign of strength |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. You have heard nothing from the Clinton Camp? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. I am right next to PA. I contacted them |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. gee.. that's a tough one |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I know but somebody had to take the time to search out the names of local young Dem leaders |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. thats great |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
9. She doesn't have the money |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I was shocked to see that ZERO Clinton ads ran on any of the stations that were on |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. 3-5 points is disaster for the Clinton campaign. Fire the goalpost movers |
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virtualobserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. hillary supporters must be in good shape with all of the exercise from moving goalposts |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. This is likely why they are pushing this forward now. They hope to try to get people to donate |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. How many times are yall going to use this point? PA is a Clinton firewall state. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
13. Why do you hate young democrats? |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
17. What city were you in? In Monroe county, a county Hillary is......... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The Philadelphia market (about 25 miles from Philly) |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. That is why. Obama will win Philly, and Hillary will lose. In fact....... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Philly is the most vote rich part of PA and given how close it will be she has to compete there |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
45. But she's not competing there. She is looking to make the difference by......... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I am not sure about the Poconos but I believe the Lehigh Valley is in the Philly television market |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. The Lehigh Valley is out of the Scranton market. n/t |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Pittsburgh stations have been almost all Hillary ads. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. That's because she knows she will win Pittsburgh. Put money in the areas you know you will win..... |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Yeah, local paper reporting she has a 13 point lead in Pittsburgh |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. She has to keep the margin down in Philly, though. Philly is 3x the size of Pittsburgh |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. But she knows she can't, and with limited money she has to put her ......... |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
57. That was my conclusion as well. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Wow that is surprising. It is the exact opposite in Philadelphia |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
19. Obama did the same thing in my state. People were angry and annoyed at the constant tv ads.. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. What state are you in? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
59. I'm in New England.. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Supers can endorse who they want. If supers voted based on polls and vote results Obama would lead |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. And by the same token they can abandon Obama for a real president... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Good point--it may cause a backlash |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
60. I thought so too... but apparently... |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #19 |
44. heh, it worked rather well in Maine |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
66. ROFLMAO! so says the hillary crusader..... |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. He spent $10 million on the ad buy for PA |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
56. The people gave him that money to spend. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
35. I even saw Billy Mays hawking Obama. |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
43. Hillary was "inevitable" and had gigantic name recognition |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. Bingo!! From day 1 it looked like Clinton was going to be the nominee |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
46. Here in Wisconsin, for our primary, I saw Obama ads long before I say any for Clinton. |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
47. You're the leader of a young Democratic organization? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. lol the Obama campaign disagrees |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
52. Most importantly, he's going to be on The Daily Show Monday night. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #52 |
64. So basically, The Daily Show is part of the Obama GOTV effort. Cool! |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
55. I don't see why he would be making up excuses to begin with. Hillary, it seems to me, is the only |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
58. Because nobody is donating to Clinton. She's done |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Good point! |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Only a small number of supporters will give her $$ now-Those who know she'll lose but need her |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
65. He doesn't need an excuse. |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
69. He has the money to SPEND; Hillary doesn't. The people gave it to him for exactly that reason. |
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Bensthename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
71. He will have gained more votes and delegates coming from 26 points down.,. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
72. Actually, Bittergate gives him that excuse. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
73. Thanks for the update and I am glad to hear that Obama is still on his game |
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