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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:50 AM
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When Mark Penn was replaced, Time asked: "Can Geoff Garin Save Clinton?" Apparently not:
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 11:51 AM by ProSense
Time: Can Geoff Garin Save Clinton?

Irony: Remember when Chris Matthews embarrassed Texas Senator Kurt Watson and Hillary piled on?

"My good friend Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones from Ohio represented me on one of the TV programs in the last day or two— some of you may have seen her," Clinton said during a speech at Hunter College in New York City Wednesday. "And she was on against someone representing my opponent and for the first time, actually, the host, asked the representative of my opponent to name one accomplishment."

<...>

The Clinton campaign called the interview "Must See TV," and e-mailed a clip of it to reporters Wednesday morning — shortly before the New York Democrat mentioned it in her speech.


Now Hillary's chief strategist appears on Meet the Press completely unprepared to defend her:

Garin is embarrassing HRC's campaign on MTP

by RFK Lives
Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 07:32:12 AM PDT

Axelrod is on opposite Garin right now. While no one ever accused Axelrod of being half as articulate as Obama is, he's pushing Garin around Timmy's set.

Garin wasn't able to answer Timmy's question about HRC's debate pledge to set up a NATO-type alliance in the ME. He openly admitted that he wasn't well-informed about that subject. He didn't distinguish himself anywhere else.

Axelrod pushed Garin to cite a past public comment that HRC made against NAFTA. Garin couldn't do so. Garin couldn't do much of anything to sell his candidate.

Timmy hit Garin w/ HRC's inconsistent statements about MoveOn. Garin had no meaningful reply. When Timmy asked Garin about HRC's comments about MoveOn intimidating caucus participants, Garin took a pass.

Yes, it's just one Sunday am gabfest that, in the big picture, will have a minimal impact on the ulitmate outcome of this campaign. It's an illustration, however, of how incoherent and disorganized HRC's campaign appears to have become. If Garin is the chosen surrogate who's sent out to represent your campaign to a national network audience, you have major problems.


Meet the Press: Obama’s Axelrod and Clinton’s Garin debated almost every current political issue with respectful intensity. Axelrod skillfully took a question about the apparent gap between Obama’s rhetoric on running a positive campaign and his campaign’s negative tactics and put Garin on the defensive on NAFTA. Garin then got enmeshed in a series of weak moments involving Clinton’s honesty and Mark Penn. Garin on several occasions begged off answering questions, citing his newness to the campaign and/or his unfamilarity with the details of her policy positions.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:53 AM
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1. Keep Garin in there!
Wow. He was just awful on Meet The Russert. Obviously, he's a third stringer being thrown in the game where it's just a matter of running out the clock.

And he got clocked.

:rofl:


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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:02 PM
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2. It was so bad I really felt sorry for him
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:07 PM
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3. I did too. nt
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:07 PM
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4. I kind of did also
Hillary has already done the damage, and this poor guy was sent out on a mission that could not be completed. It was terrible for him. I still think Penn is running things in the background, and will continue to take her down the road to destruction, but they should never have sent this poor guy out to try and defend things that could not be defended!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:10 PM
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6. I felt sorry for him too.
He tried, but honestly, he just didn't appear to have much to work with.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:33 PM
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11. So did I
especially when at some point (I do not remember the context) he reminded everybody that he has been at this for only 2 weeks so he does not have all the facts, or when askes about HRC's plan to establish a US umbrella over all the friendly regimes in the ME, he could only mutter that he is only in charge of strategy, and is not up-to-date on policy issues. He was incredibly awkward, does not seem to be that good in the spinning department.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:10 PM
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5. At the end of MTP Garin stopped just short of asking Axelrod for a job.
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 12:11 PM by Gidney N Cloyd
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:14 PM
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8. lol
pithy! and accurate, I might add.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:13 PM
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7. I caught most of this and it sounded as if Garin was sent out today to paint Obama as the one who is
doing the negative campaigning. But, alas, he was weak, whiney and ill-prepared. It was hard not to feel sorry for the guy. I had to keep telling myself that he was trying desperately and poorly to defend the indefensible. It was a lame attempt.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:16 PM
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9. BTW for any of you who want to watch it MTP repeats on MSNBC
in my area it's at 6PM and 2AM EDT.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:24 PM
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10. Today's MTP video available now on MSNBC.com
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:37 PM
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12. Isn't Geoff the Elitist Way of Spelling Jeff?
Hey to us low and middle-class God, guns, bowling, non-bitter Pennsylvanians! Just asking. :sarcasm:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 12:41 PM
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13. he did support her slam against the netroots and the dem activists.
huffingtonpost.com has a story on it.
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